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I've watched this line all week and now see it is a pk. What is everybody's major feelings concerning this early afternoon SEC match-up? I've been going back and forth on this one (which probably means I should just stay away), but I guess I'm just looking for a good shove one way or the other.

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After carrying the team most of the season, the defense was finally given some assistance by the offense after turning in their worst half of the season in last wk's opening half at Ole Miss. Does this mean the offense is finally turning the corner? The running game is still non-existent, but with the return of All-SEC WR McKinley and the breakout game from the freshman Barnes, it looks like they now have 3 great pass catchers for Smelley (who for the first time all year looked comfortable under center). The defense has great numbers, but when you look at the season so far, it's not like they've played a slate full of offensive juggernauts. While they did hold Stafford and Moreno in check, Def Coordinator's around the country don't exactly sweat at night trying to game plan for Wofford, UAB, NC St.

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They are near the top (or maybe at the top) of college football in Scoring D. But then again, are their numbers inflated against sub-par offenses (Alabama excluded)? And was their defensive performance this past week against Bama a result of what they were doing, what Alabama was not, or a little of both? I didn't watch most of it so I have no idea. They are ranked 1st in the SEC in passing efficiency D which should bode well against SCar's passing attack. On offense, they've only given up 3 sacks all year, but rank in the middle of the SEC in both Pass O & Rushing O.


While both rank in the top 3 of the SEC in Time of Possession, it seems that both have relied for the most part on their Defenses carrying the load. So I guess it'll come down to which offense can make more plays and which team is more opportunistic. While SCar leads the SEC in 1st downs, they're 8th in Scoring Off, meaning they are good between the 20's, but have difficulty cashing in. This could be due to the fact that they are next to last in the conference allowing 20 sacks and are -5 in turnover margin.

UK's turnover margin is +5. They are playing at home. But they are coming off a tough, bruising road loss and Spurrier has never lost to them. It seems to me there are good arguments on both sides. What say you???
 

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This is my first post and i am a uk fan but even if i wasnt i would still go with the big blue cuz they have been playing really good all year and brooks will be looking to beat spurrier for the first time at uk. They played good at bama. The only two touchdowns they had were off a fumble by hartline at the 5 yard line and a 73 yard touchdown run by coffee and both were in the first quarter. After that UK completely shut the down. Bama was lucky to come away with a win and i know SC wont get one.
 

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This is my first post and i am a uk fan but even if i wasnt i would still go with the big blue cuz they have been playing really good all year and brooks will be looking to beat spurrier for the first time at uk. They played good at bama. The only two touchdowns they had were off a fumble by hartline at the 5 yard line and a 73 yard touchdown run by coffee and both were in the first quarter. After that UK completely shut the down. Bama was lucky to come away with a win and i know SC wont get one.


So just because they have played good all year and one coach wants to beat the other coach, the smart play is Kentucky. Glad to see you on the rx but come on lets hear some info.!!! What's with Kentucky's O-line, I heard they were having to move a lot of guys around?
 

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I agree with TOOTIGHT. I am looking for some insightful commentary on particular match-ups in this game. Not saying UK won't win, and it's good to be confident as a fan, but come on . . . "playing really good all year"? A tackle at the 1 against MTSU to salvage a 20-14 win does not constitute "playing really good all year". SCar has had their difficulties as well (very average looking in wins over Wofford & UAB), so I guess I'm just trying to see which version of the two teams show up Saturday.

SCar-
The team that floundered against Wofford, or the one who was a fumble away from taking UGA to OT and won in Oxford last week?

UK- The team who escaped with a win over MTSU, or who almost stole a victory on the road against the #2 team in the country?
 

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1. UK is at home
2. If you havent saw then MTSU is pretty good. They beat Maryland.
3. South Carolina is having problems.
4. The only time UK has a problem is when there is a mobile quarteback and SC doesnt have one.
5. UK's o-line isnt that great but they held up pretty good against Bama.
 
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South Carolina wins this game, I have written a lot on this game in other forums but here is a brief breakdown:



Disclaimer: I am a Gamecock Alumni, but I am not a homer

Now for the breakdown, SC should be favored in this game by 3.5-4 points but thats water under the bridge at this point. The game breaksdown like this....


SC offense versus UK defense: UK DL is the noted strength of their team and they will try to rattle the SC OL, the thing that most people don't know is that SC OL does much better in pass blocking than they do in run blocking. They've faced some good DL's on the year already (UGA/Ole Miss) and Smelley had time to throw in both games. I would expect SC to use alot of shotgun with 4-5 wide like they did at Ole Miss this past week. With McKinley back to normal from injury, TE Cook being a huge mismatch for any LB in the league, Jason Barnes and Moe Browns emergences, South Carolina has 4 legit options in the passing game. UK runs a lot of man coverage and that could get them into some trouble this weekend if they need to bring the blitz to get pressure. South Carolina will give Smelly time to throw, they will probably give up their customary 2-3 sacks but that won't really hinder what they do on offense, they will move the ball, its all about getting touchdowns and not field goals though.

UK offense versus SC defense: I think UK will have trouble here, there are issues on the OL with some injuries, they've had trouble running the ball, their QB is very green, and outside of Lyons, they don't have another reliable WR. They get a boost with Randall Cobb coming back from injury this week but they still lack the play makers on that side of the ball.

Special Teams: Both teams have good Kickers. UK punter has been very good and their Kickoff return game has been solid.

With all of that said, South Carolina has not been outgained in a game this year. They've punted 3 times in the last 3 games and in my opinion it is very likely when you look at the box score from this game, South Carolina has more first downs, more yards, and more time of possession. For UK to win this game, they'll have to hope they force some crucial South Carolina turnovers and rely on a stingy defense, good special teams, and hope their offense doesn't hurt them. That win for SC on the road at Ole Miss was big in so many ways for the team, they will use that momentum and new found confidence going on the road this weekend, where they actually perform better than expected (Spurrier is 8-2-1 ATS on the road)

SC 20 - UK 10

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1. UK is at home
2. If you havent saw then MTSU is pretty good. They beat Maryland.
3. South Carolina is having problems.
4. The only time UK has a problem is when there is a mobile quarteback and SC doesnt have one.
5. UK's o-line isnt that great but they held up pretty good against Bama.

You are justifying the MTSU game by saying they are pretty good? Rightt.....
 

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Kentucky got Bama in a great spot or I think that game would have been different.
 
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Kentucky got Bama in a great spot or I think that game would have been different.
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Thats exactly how I feel. Bama coming off a huge win at UGA was expected to be sloppy. Thery had 3 turnovers, missed 2 field goals, and had 10 penalties for over 90 yards. After the Clemson game they looked like shit against Tulane too. Meanwhile look at the UK drive chart to start the game:


Kentucky Drive Summaries
START QTR POSS. YARD PLAYS YARDS RESULT
14:23 1 02:14 UK 42 3 -3 Punt
09:48 1 03:21 UK 42 6 13 Punt
01:51 1 00:49 UK 20 3 -16 Fumble
01:02 1 01:22 UK 22 4 14 Punt
12:56 2 01:36 UK 6 3 4 Punt
08:56 2 02:29 UK 23 7 36 Punt
01:12 2 00:48 UK 20 3 9 Punt
15:00 3 01:13 UK 27 3 9 Punt
13:47 3 01:10 UK 15 3 3 Punt
12:15 3 01:11 UK 20 3 6 Punt
09:01 3 00:47 ALA 38 4 8 Turnover on Downs


If they start like that against SC, they will be down a decent amount very early and their defense will be gassed

I said going into the Ole Miss game, it was a make or break for the season. If they lost to Ole Miss in what was amounting to be a "MUST WIN" game, the season would quickly slide down the tubes. A win on the other hand can change a lot for them. I've always kept it in the back of my mind that the OM and UK games go together, they were either going to win both or lose both because of where the program and team were at. Going into the Ole Miss game this was a team and program who just came off 2 poor efforts versus shit schools, a team who hadn't won an SEC-conference game in a whole year and was currently 0-2 in the conference, a team who was without a leader on offense (McKinley), and a team and coach who were clearly beginning to get fustrated with the poor performances. The game wasn't fun anymore for the kids, you could see they were playing with little emotion but after the Ole Miss game, the celebration on the field and in the lockerroom was an atmosphere that the coaches haven't seen in a long time. It was like a rebirth for a team struggling to find a way. It was a good win to get the monkey off their back and it was a good win to build confidence into the team. These are 18-22 yr old kids, emotion and confidence can go a long way for them.
 
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I have an inside connection from Kentucky who spoke to the head coach. Apparently, Kentucky really wants to win this game. So there you have it, Kentucky wins :lol:
 

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I have an inside connection from Kentucky who spoke to the head coach. Apparently, Kentucky really wants to win this game. So there you have it, Kentucky wins :lol:


Well that seals it for me!!!! :money8:

Looks like it'll be a UK play this weekend!!!
 

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I don't think there is any doubt that South Carolina fields a more talented team. The problem is this team is never consistent and I personally could not bet on them to beat a decent conference team on the road. To me this is just a game to stay away from imo.
 

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Huge UK fan here ... follow them like there is no tomorrow.

UK has a great D ... plus Micah Johnson is coming back.

Yes we played Alabama close, but it could have been a blowout.
Alabama had several fumbles inside and UK got lucky.

Hartline sucks. He throws 5 yard passes and we are lucky if the WR's catch the ball.

There has been some moaning and groaning the last few days between some coaches and players.

Derrick Locke is complaining that UK is not running the ball enough. Aaron Boyd (a stud freshman WR) is saying he is not getting enough playing time.

I would stay away from this game if it was me. I would only the play the under in this game.

UK will only score 13-17 points! I have seen S.Car play a few times and there offense looks like it sucks too.

It will come down to field possesion for these 2 teams!
 

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South Carolina is NOT having problems..They are a resurgent team that will not drop another game to a subpar SEC team. SC to the bank over Kentucky.


where are your plays for this week at?
I want to compare my leans to yours :)
 

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South Carolina or no play, this line should be SC -7, but since Kentucky kept it close because of Alabama's mistakes really, the line isn't inflated. South Carolina 21 Kentucky 10
 

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1. UK is at home
2. If you havent saw then MTSU is pretty good. They beat Maryland.
3. South Carolina is having problems.
4. The only time UK has a problem is when there is a mobile quarteback and SC doesnt have one.
5. UK's o-line isnt that great but they held up pretty good against Bama.

MTSU is not good and neither is FAU and Auburn's offense is for shit. South Carolina should have beat Vanderbilt. I watched the replay last night of UK at Alabama and UK's defense kept Alabama in check in the 2nd half but you have to put some blame on the Alabama play calling. This game is a toss up and I like South Carolina. alwatts
 

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sc is -1 now better get in them line will be up to three by kickoff.as said above uk qb will loose this game for them.:pope:
 

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