Opening Lines for Major Games

[Georgiaboy]

<HR color=#cccccc noShade> Florida -11 @ LSU
USC -6.5 @ tOSU
Bama -4 vs VT
Texas -3 vs OU
USC -10 @ ND

Here are the rest (copied and paste from our board):

ALL TIMES TO BE ANNOUNCED

Thursday, September 03, 2009
1001 OREGON
1002 BOISE ST. -4

Saturday, September 05, 2009
1003 GEORGIA
1004 OKLAHOMA ST. -3

1005 MISSOURI @ST. LOUIS MO
1006 ILLINOIS -2½

1007 VIRG. TECH @ATLANTA GA
1008 ALABAMA -4

1009 COLORADO ST.
1010 COLORADO -13

1011 BYU @ARLINGTON TX
1012 OKLAHOMA -21

1013 LSU -16
1014 WASHINGTON

1015 NEVADA
1016 NOTRE DAME -17

Sunday, September 06, 2009
1017 MISSISSIPPI -17
1018 MEMPHIS

Monday, September 07, 2009
1019 MIAMI (FL)
1020 FLORIDA ST. -3

Thursday, September 10, 2009
1021 CLEMSON
1022 GEORGIA TECH -4½

Saturday, September 12, 2009
1023 NOTRE DAME -3½
1024 MICHIGAN

1025 UCLA
1026 TENNESSEE -3

1027 USC -6½
1028 OHIO ST.

1029 OREGON ST. -14
1030 UNLV

Thursday, September 17, 2009
1031 GEORGIA TECH
1032 MIAMI (FL) -4

Friday, September 18, 2009
1033 BOISE ST. -10½
1034 FRESNO ST.

Saturday, September 19, 2009
1035 WEST VIRGINIA
1036 AUBURN -4

1037 TENNESSEE
1038 FLORIDA -27

1039 LOUISVILLE
1040 KENTUCKY -3½

1041 BOSTON COLLEGE
1042 CLEMSON -7

1043 NEBRASKA
1044 VIRGINIA TECH -6

1045 MICHIGAN ST.
1046 NOTRE DAME -7

1047 UTAH
1048 OREGON -7½

1049 FLORIDA ST.
1050 BYU -3

1051 TEXAS TECH
1052 TEXAS -17

1053 GEORGIA -2½
1054 ARKANSAS

1055 HAWAII
1056 UNLV -7
>>
Thursday, September 24, 2009
1057 MISSISSIPPI -7
1058 SOUTH CAROLINA

Friday, September 25, 2009
1059 MISSOURI -5
1060 NEVADA

Saturday, September 26, 2009
1061 ARIZONA ST.
1062 GEORGIA -14

1063 MIAMI (FL)
1064 VIRGINIA TECH -4½

1065 CALIFORNIA
1066 OREGON -1

1067 WAKE FOREST
1068 BOSTON COLLEGE -9½

1069 MICHIGAN ST.
1070 WISCONSIN -4½

1071 ARKANSAS
1072 ALABAMA -10

Friday, October 02, 2009
1073 PITTSBURGH -4
1074 LOUISVILLE

Saturday, October 03, 2009
1075 LSU
1076 GEORGIA -4

1077 FLORIDA ST. PICK
1078 BOSTON COLLEGE

1079 OKLAHOMA -10
1080 MIAMI (FL)

1081 UNLV
1082 NEVADA -7

1083 USC -8½
1084 CALIFORNIA

1085 TEXAS A&M @ARLINGTON TX
1086 ARKANSAS -13½

1087 MICHIGAN
1088 MICHIGAN ST. -7½

1089 WISCONSIN -2½
1090 MINNESOTA

1091 AUBURN
1092 TENNESSEE -6

Thursday, October 08, 2009
1093 NEBRASKA PICK
1094 MISSOURI

Saturday, October 10, 2009
1095 GEORGIA TECH
1096 FLORIDA ST. -4½

1097 WISCONSIN
1098 OHIO ST. -12

1099 BOSTON COLLEGE
1100 VIRGINIA TECH -8

1101 FLORIDA -11
1102 LSU

1103 AUBURN
1104 ARKANSAS -4½

1105 OREGON
1106 UCLA -3

1107 ALABAMA
1108 MISSISSIPPI -3

1109 GEORGIA -3½
1110 TENNESSEE

1111 BYU -13
1112 UNLV

1113 FRESNO ST. -3
1114 HAWAII
>>
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
1115 BOISE ST. -6
1116 TULSA

Thursday, October 15, 2009
1117 CINCINNATI
1118 SOUTH FLORIDA -6½

Friday, October 16, 2009
1119 PITTSBURGH
1120 RUTGERS -3

Saturday, October 17, 2009
1121 CALIFORNIA -3½
1122 UCLA

1123 OKLAHOMA @DALLAS TX
1124 TEXAS -3

1125 USC -10
1126 NOTRE DAME

1127 VIRGINIA TECH
1128 GEORGIA TECH -6

1129 TEXAS TECH
1130 NEBRASKA -7

1131 MARSHALL
1132 WEST VIRGINIA -14

1133 BYU -17
1134 SAN DIEGO ST.

1135 UTAH -10
1136 UNLV

Thursday, October 22, 2009
1137 FLORIDA ST. -3
1138 NORTH CAROLINA

Saturday, October 24, 2009
1139 PENN ST. -7
1140 MICHIGAN

1141 BOSTON COLLEGE
1142 NOTRE DAME -7

1143 TENNESSEE
1144 ALABAMA -14

1145 CLEMSON
1146 MIAMI (FL) -4½

1147 TEXAS A&M
1148 TEXAS TECH -14

1149 AUBURN
1150 LSU -10

1151 BOISE ST. -17
1152 HAWAII

Thursday, October 29, 2009
1153 NORTH CAROLINA
1154 VIRGINIA TECH -8

Friday, October 30, 2009
1155 WEST VIRGINIA
1156 SOUTH FLORIDA -6

Saturday, October 31, 2009
1157 GEORGIA @JACKSONVL, FL
1158 FLORIDA -16

1159 USC -10½
1160 OREGON

1161 MISSISSIPPI -4
1162 AUBURN

1163 CALIFORNIA -6
1164 ARIZONA ST.

1165 MIAMI (FL) -6½
1166 WAKE FOREST

1167 TEXAS -7
1168 OKLAHOMA ST.
>>
Thursday, November 05, 2009
1169 VIRGINIA TECH -6½
1170 EAST CAROLINA

Saturday, November 07, 2009
1171 OKLAHOMA -9½
1172 NEBRASKA

1173 OHIO ST.
1174 PENN ST. -3

1175 FLORIDA ST.
1176 CLEMSON -4½

1177 LSU
1178 ALABAMA -6

1179 USC -14½
1180 ARIZONA ST.

Thursday, November 12, 2009
1181 SOUTH FLORIDA
1182 RUTGERS -3

Friday, November 13, 2009
1183 WEST VIRGINIA
1184 CINCINNATI -3

Saturday, November 14, 2009
1185 AUBURN
1186 GEORGIA -10½

1187 MICHIGAN
1188 WISCONSIN -7

1189 NEBRASKA
1190 KANSAS -2½

1191 FLORIDA -17
1192 SOUTH CAROLINA

1193 TENNESSEE
1194 MISSISSIPPI -13

1195 MIAMI (FL) -2½
1196 NORTH CAROLINA

1197 FLORIDA ST. -6½
1198 WAKE FOREST

1199 NOTRE DAME
1200 PITTSBURGH -1

Saturday, November 21, 2009
1201 LSU
1202 MISSISSIPPI -6

1203 OHIO ST. -7
1204 MICHIGAN

1205 MINNESOTA
1206 IOWA -9

1207 OKLAHOMA -9
1208 TEXAS TECH

1209 CALIFORNIA -3½
1210 STANFORD


Thursday, November 26, 2009
1211 TEXAS -21½
1212 TEXAS A&M

Friday, November 27, 2009
1213 PITTSBURGH
1214 WEST VIRGINIA -3

1215 NEBRASKA -6
1216 COLORADO

Saturday, November 28, 2009
1217 FLORIDA ST.
1218 FLORIDA -20

1219 GEORGIA
1220 GEORGIA TECH -1

1221 TENNESSEE -1½
1222 KENTUCKY

1223 VIRGINIA TECH -7½
1224 VIRGINIA

1225 CLEMSON PICK
1226 SOUTH CAROLINA

1227 ALABAMA -8
1228 AUBURN

1229 UTAH
1230 BYU -6

1231 ARKANSAS
1232 LSU -8

1233 OKLAHOMA ST.
1234 OKLAHOMA -10½

1235 UCLA
1236 USC -18

1237 ARIZONA
1238 ARIZONA ST. -2

1239 MIAMI (FL) -3
1240 SOUTH FLORIDA

1241 NORTH CAROLINA
1242 NC STATE -2½

1243 BAYLOR @ARLINGTON, TX
1244 TEX. TECH -7

1245 RICE
1246 HOUSTON -13

1247 WASHINGTON ST.
1248 WASHINGTON -8

1249 MISSISSIPPI -16
1250 MISSISSIPPI ST.

Thursday, December 03, 2009
1251 OREGON ST.
1252 OREGON -6

Saturday, December 05, 2009
1253 ARIZONA
1254 USC -20

1255 CINCINNATI
1256 PITTSBURGH -7

Saturday, December 12, 2009
1257 ARMY @PHILA., PA
1258 NAVY -14½

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[SoonerBS]

I made a prediction a week ago of Oklahoma winning the game against BYU by 24 points, but I really thought they might have a line of -17. I'd sure like to see that line drop some more before game time.

 

[Mr.Smith]

where are these lines from?

 

[5-0SAT]

laughable if the line for ou byu is 21. best beat of the 1st weekend will be on the sooners and bobby stoops

 

[BigdaddyQH]

These lines are from either the Golden Nugget, The Las Vegas Hilton, or both.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

Here is who I have wagered on so far:

Illinois -2 1/2. vs Missouri. Revenge time.

Floirda St. pk at B.C. If Bowden can't beat these guys, he should retire on the spot.

Oregon +3 at UCLA. Obviously some people believe Phil Steele's rag. I don't.

North Carolina +3 vs Florida St. UNC at home on a Thursday Night, plus points.

North Carolina +2 1/2 vs Miami. Way too much respect for Miami. Christmas comes early.

Leans: So far, these are just leans.

Ga. Tech +4 at Miami.
Georgia -2 1/2 a Arkansas.
Michigan St. +4 1/2 at Wisconsin.
Ga. Tech +4 1/2 at Florida State.
Nebraska pk at Missouri.
Clemson +4 1/2 at Miami.
South Florida +3 vs Miami.

 

[MightyGinseng]

Any idea when the lines for all the opening week games are released?

 

[BigdaddyQH]

They could be as early as the middle of July, or as late as the middle of August. The earlier they release them, the longer they can hold on to your money before having to pay out the winners.

 

[TOOTIGHT]

that Illinois Mizzou line has to move over the next 2 months. Illinois will be a huge public play I think and probably the right play. Take Illinois now and watch the line move and try for a middle.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

that Illinois Mizzou line has to move over the next 2 months. Illinois will be a huge public play I think and probably the right play. Take Illinois now and watch the line move and try for a middle.

That is certainly a possibility, as are all of my futures play. I always look for bad opening lines.

 

[straightcashhomie]

The ACC lines in particular seem to be out of whack; are these all correct? They ranked (I think, dont quote me) second in strength of schedule last season and these lines look at first glance like they are getting no respect.

 

[letsgohoosiers]

If OU is plus money against UT, I'll have to take out loans for the amount I'll be putting on that game.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

Texas is -3 because OU has no offensive line. The line is a good one. OU is 1-3 in their last 4 games vs Texas. As far as the ACC is concerned, they sent 10 teams to bowl games, which accounts for an allegedly strong schedule. That is not accurate. Three things are driving the odds in ACC games. First, the fact that only 4 ACC teams won their bowl games. Second, and more important, a huge bias for the home teams in the ACC. There are 96 conference games in the ACC, and last year the visitors won 17. The Big 12 had 20 victories in 94 away conference games. The SEC had 23 away wins in conference play, out of 95 games played. So you see teams like Boston College, picked by most to finish 5th or 6th in the Atlantic, at even money against Florida State, who is the favorite to win the Atlantic, just because the game is in Chestnut Hill. The exception to the rule seems to be North Carolina, who is unexplainably underdogs to both Miami and to Flroida State, at home.

 

[trentmoney]

Texas is -3 because OU has no offensive line. The line is a good one. OU is 1-3 in their last 4 games vs Texas. As far as the ACC is concerned, they sent 10 teams to bowl games, which accounts for an allegedly strong schedule. That is not accurate. Three things are driving the odds in ACC games. First, the fact that only 4 ACC teams won their bowl games. Second, and more important, a huge bias for the home teams in the ACC. There are 96 conference games in the ACC, and last year the visitors won 17. The Big 12 had 20 victories in 94 away conference games. The SEC had 23 away wins in conference play, out of 95 games played. So you see teams like Boston College, picked by most to finish 5th or 6th in the Atlantic, at even money against Florida State, who is the favorite to win the Atlantic, just because the game is in Chestnut Hill. The exception to the rule seems to be North Carolina, who is unexplainably underdogs to both Miami and to Flroida State, at home.

there are 48 conference games in ACC, not 96
but they still have less road wins than b12 or sec conf games, so your point is well taken

 

[BigdaddyQH]

My error. I forgot to divide by 2. Sorry. By the way, the line on the Illinois-Mizzou game is now up to 5.

 

[trentmoney]

My error. I forgot to divide by 2. Sorry. By the way, the line on the Illinois-Mizzou game is now up to 5.

well that makes my decision a lot easier since that was one of the games that i was considering playing, unless some big news comes out of fall camp...i'm now officially "off" that game

good luck

 

[BugsySiegel]

First week picks:

Oregon ML
Colorado State +13
LSU -16

 

[BigdaddyQH]

If you can get down, good news Bugsy. LSU is down to -14 now.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

If OU is plus money against UT, I'll have to take out loans for the amount I'll be putting on that game.

Start looking for your mortgages, because unless one of those teams is upset, that line probably will not change. There are a few games each year that the books simply will not changre lines on, unless something drastic happens, because there is so much action going dow on each team, they do not have to change the lines. They will get a ton of people "buying the hook" on this game, both ways.

 

[BugsySiegel]

If you can get down, good news Bugsy. LSU is down to -14 now.

You've got to be kidding me.

@)