Only Suckers Think They Can Predict The Outcome Of Sporting Events.

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The bookies don't care about accurately predicting the outcome of the game. Sports books don't set out to set the odds of winning, they set out to equalize the bets on either side of a bet, both with spread odds (The Dolphins are 3.5 point underdogs vs. the 49ers) and with betting odds (The 49ers pay 3:2 if they beat the Dolphins). Many bettors will week in and week out bet on their favorite team. It doesn't matter which side you bet, to win or to lose, you cannot have an objective view of the game. You may talk yourself into believing you can view the point spread and the game objectively, but if you're a fan you have built-in biases that you may not even be aware of.

If the sports book do their job properly, it ends up paying out to the winning side almost exactly what it took in from the losing side[ that's their game] and all games that are posting not just one. Even if books get hammered in one week on a game, they will average out following weeks, not every body bets the same teams or amounts. Let me say this again because it is probably the most important thing I can tell you. The only reason you should ever bet on a game is if you feel you have an advantage over the bookie or casino.

How do they then make money? Well, that's why I said almost exactly. The sports book also put a percentage on every bet, the vig & juice could be higher with off shore betting. If you bet to many games in one week of NFL and lose,[ I hate saying that word/LOL], the vig & juice it will eat you up brother [I know I been there when I first starting betting sports], and all you doing in following weeks of bets is getting even on juice, that could hurt you. Remember you are only as strong as your bankroll and believe the books in vegas have a bigger one. That's where the sports book makes their money. I don,t personally bet off shore books, because I live Vegas and make my bets shopping around for spreads. The secret is patience and need to exercise self-control. My philosophy in betting is why I choose to play just betting one game at each week [Some exceptions applied Monday & Thursday Night games. I don't use trends such as "The Steelers are 13-2 in week number 7" (Do they actually know that week 7 is their week and gain confidence from it?) or "bet on home dogs from +2 to +4 if it's a weeknight MAC game" (the more narrow the point spread range is the more likely it is a random occurrence and not a true indicator of a real pattern).

The moral of my thread!!!! is that only suckers think they can predict the outcome of sporting events. And sports books know this even better than the guys betting the lines. So they've contrived a situation where they make money no matter who wins hedging on the results.
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**Very good to you all RX members of NFL season on your bets and predictions.

**PS. A SPECIAL NOTE... One of best Theory's that I use is the ''Up-Down Theory ''suggests that teams that played poorly one week should be due for a regression the next, while a team that played above itself will come back down to earth. However, the market usually corrects the other way, assuming that a team that played poorly is a “bad team” and will be equally bad or even worse the next week while a team that won will continue to play well or improve. When a team coming off a statistically anomalous “bad” game goes up against a team that played over its head the week prior, then you have a classic Up-Down situation.
 

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Agree with the Up-Down concept. It's human nature to think: oh Rams looked like dogshit last week, while the Saints killed the Panthers, therefore the Saints are going on the road and will murder the Rams as a 5 pt favorite, only to lose by 10+.
 

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Getting equal betting on both sides sounds great in theory, but it seldom happens.

Books usually need a side to cover in every game to earn a profit, very few games have equal action.
 

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Gonna have to respectfully disagree with this. Odds makers don't set the line for equal action, they set it for value. Books may adjust it based on action but money is rarely ever even. When public faves clean house, books lose a shit load especially from parlays.
 

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Gonna have to respectfully disagree with this. Odds makers don't set the line for equal action, they set it for value. Books may adjust it based on action but money is rarely ever even. When public faves clean house, books lose a shit load especially from parlays.

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So then we're all suckers? I'm confused.
The moral of my thread!!!! is that only suckers think they can predict the outcome of sporting events. You get a big play here and there, you get a loose fumble, pick it up and score, things like that. You generally need to get one or two big breaks to get a big upset. If you can get those and not give the other team anything, it can happen?
 

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The moral of my thread!!!! is that only suckers think they can predict the outcome of sporting events. You get a big play here and there, you get a loose fumble, pick it up and score, things like that. You generally need to get one or two big breaks to get a big upset. If you can get those and not give the other team anything, it can happen?

Covering with a big dog is different than the big dog winning outright.

There are many big dogs that cover without needing "luck" or turnovers.
 
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Gonna have to respectfully disagree with this. Odds makers don't set the line for equal action, they set it for value. Books may adjust it based on action but money is rarely ever even. When public faves clean house, books lose a shit load especially from parlays.
The opening line is the first line created by the odds makers, which is then sent out to Sportsbooks. Most odds makers will have their own power system set up which will vary week to week from different in game statistics and results. I personally use J.J. Bascus power system or ratings which was 80% true in 2013 NFL season. The odds maker’s value each team and use this value as a guide to calculate a beginning number on an upcoming game. Once a game’s opening spread is determined, the odds maker will make adjustments to that line. Odds maker ultimate goal is equally dividing the betting action, public perception and betting patterns must be taken into account. Sportsbook wants as close to equal wagers on each side because that will guarantee them a profit where the Sportsbook will collect the juice and pay out the winners.*(Juice In sports betting “juice” is the commission paid to Bookmakers on losing bets for the privilege of betting. For example, on a $110 football bet, the winning bettors collect $100+your $10 [$ 210]. If you lose [ I hate using that word//lLOL.] Books lock up $10 juice + your wager of $100 [ The extra $10 is the juice and the reason why you must win over 50% of your bets to profit with a point spread or the juice will eat you up.] Off shore wagering picks up extra $5 on losing bets that are favorites in the betting line and gives you break on under dogs bets//lol/lol example +3 -105 and -3 -115 Could be higher in some cases depending on the game and wagering.PS.I AM ALWAYS OPEN FOR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ON MY THREADS ... HOWEVER, THERE IS SOME GREAT MEMBERS RX SPORTS FORUM THAT BELIEVE IN SHARING IDEAS AND INFORMATION ON THREADS.
 
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While it is thought that the house wants equal action on a game. That is rarely the case. The house wants balanced action but that never happens with parlays. Fav's are used at 66% or higher on parlays. Some local casinos say it is 75 or 80%. More people tease fav's down than dogs up. The house has more risk on fav's than dogs like akphielt said. That is why some people say there is more value in dogs. The house hold on straight bets should be about 4.76% but many years the house holds less than 4%. The hold on parlays should average around 25-30% but several years the hold was 40%. Just food for thought.
 

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Last yr, Saints ( and I'm a Saints fan) were playing the Jets. The beginning of the week up to the game, I chalked the Saints losing this because of one factor. Chris Ivory. He played in 2012 on the Saints roster. In 2013 with the Jets, he hadnt done very well, but for soem reason, I knew he'd blow it up for that game. Jets won 26-20 Ivory ran 18 carries for 139 yrds that game with 1 TD. His first that season. In my opinion, that was quite easily predictable.


THis yr, there's a couple games and I'm by no means saying its guaranteed to happen, but Saints playing the cowboys in Dallas. Last yr, Saints beat them 49-17 at home. As bad as the cowboys may seem and even coming into this yr, I feel they're at minimum going to cover that game if not win outright as they should be favored playing at home and that is a revenge game.


The Steelers vs. the Saints. (BTW, this has been going on for quite a few yrs) That ex-Saints players moving to other teams seem to beat the Saints. Lance Moore was a clutch reciever for Saints last yr. Guy catches literally everything thrown to him. I feel Big Ben will will give L. moore an outstanding game vs the Saints and the season hasnt started yet.


Giants vs Seahawks. 2013 Seahawks beat the Giants 23-0 in NY. Now the Giants go to Clink to play. At minimum, Giants will cover the spread. Here's why I think that will happen:


Dec 27, 2009 view Sunday 16 2009 Giants Panthers home 9-41L
Sep 12, 2010 view Sunday 1 2010 Giants Panthers home 31-18W
Sep 20, 2012 view Thursday 3 2012 Giants Panthers away 36-7 W
Sep 22, 2013 view Sunday 3 2013 Giants Panthers away 0-38 L


Anytime a team is on a revenge game and theyve not scored a point previously, their chances to win become even greater. At minimum, theyre going to cover.


Since 1989, when a revenge game takes place where the team scored 0 at Home and are now away and their opponents previously scored more than 20 theyre 21-1 ATS though only 8-13-1 SU. But soemhow I believe this will be an upset to the Seahawks. I soemhow feel the Seahwaks will have a slump this yr. Too many ppl are thinking theyre going to come out and dominate like last yr. Funny thing is they won their 1st SB in franchise history and now are going to repeat? I feel Pete Carroll along with R. Wilson have some work to do this yr to get back to form. Afterall, they were 11-5ATS the last 2 seasons in a row. I dont think theyre going to repeat that type of domination again... Please give me your thoughts.
 
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Rankings will updated with a comparison every week through the entire NFL Season [Stats, Information and predictions all included.] I evaluate teams in the 1st week of the season by comparing power ratings and analysis from 2013 to 1st week in NFL,using J.J. Bascus[ Reno N.V]. I do not bet the 1st week in the NFL season.
 
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Reply to Wizard1183 Thanks for info, a great reply however Wizard >> "My system and betting style does not take into account injuries, weather conditions, yardage gained, the importance of the game, whether it was a Monday Night game or not, whether the quarterback's grandmother was sick, or anything else besides points scored and points allowed".
 
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You appear to be a thoughtful fellow who can respond rather than react to situations. Of course you cannot handicap turn overs and if you really need money, work for it do not ount on winning it. Appreciate your thread. Best.
 

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I have thoroughly enjoyed your posts and am very interested in seeing your picks this season. Over the years we have lost a few good empirical handicappers. I agree the dynamic of the understanding how the line is used by Vegas is a tremendous asset in the mechanical action of handicapping.

 

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