Online casinos are such a joke

Holysmoke+ · Oct 26, 2004

Assuming you receive $10 in free money as well as a $300 purchase match;
Your wagering requirements would be $19,700 - calculated as ($10 Free x 20) plus ($1,000 Purchase x 15) + ($300 Purchase Match x 15);
If you made the max deposit to get the max bonus you would never get the chance to withdrawl that money after risking 19,700 against crooked software forget it

Whoson1st · Oct 26, 2004

I think you're onto something there Holyone.

WorldRunner · Oct 26, 2004

Speak for yourself. JJGold won $82 in his first month of playing Blackjack online using the martingdale system. (or whatever the hell its called).

He only had to risk his entire bankroll 3 times the entire month to win $1. All three times he pulled through though. You should try it as well.

TheGeneral+ · Oct 26, 2004

SuperSunday as of yesterday had won 2k from pinnacles casino on BJ in a couple weeks.

bigbet1234 · Oct 26, 2004

I won 3 or 4 $500 hands at BJ with Pinnalce. Cant remember precisely, had a little to drink. Got lucky, and never again.:drink:

BB

Whoson1st · Oct 26, 2004

It's GOT to be a BIG Temptation for them.

Even the Best Books with Outstanding Reputations for Paying and that have been doing it Well for a good LONG Time.

I have only the HIGHEST RESPECT for WSEX and Pinnacle.

But--Let's say they have just had a bad weekend in whatever sport. Why would they not just "twink" (my madeup word) the settings to pay out less for a few hours? Who can say I'm wrong??

WorldRunner · Oct 26, 2004

Online casnios are nothing but slot machines. No matter what the game is...blackjack, poker, roulette... It's all payout %. So some people get lucky and win $3000....while others can't get two wins in a row if they played their whole life.

BaseballGuy · Oct 26, 2004

Online casnios are nothing but slot machines. No matter what the game is...blackjack, poker, roulette... It's all payout %. So some people get lucky and win $3000....while others can't get two wins in a row if they played their whole life.

You know why this is right?

The programmers of the software for these casinos build in a stop/loss feature. There was an in depth article about this on some online casino advisor site. I forget which one. It is however documented that the software sets a stop/loss limit on your winnings. How much you are allowed to win can be set by the management.

Whoson1st · Oct 26, 2004

Baseball Guy--Finally one who shows they do know--Whos on 1st:think:

MadCapper · Oct 26, 2004

they are tuff to beat long term

truthteller · Oct 26, 2004

MadCapper said:
they are tuff to beat long term

Impossible to beat long term. Casinos are programmed to come out on top. You may way a few times but in the long run you will not come out ahead.

MadCapper · Oct 26, 2004

i found that out first hand.

i know.

HacheMan · Oct 26, 2004

Whoson1st said:
It's GOT to be a BIG Temptation for them.

Even the Best Books with Outstanding Reputations for Paying and that have been doing it Well for a good LONG Time.

I have only the HIGHEST RESPECT for WSEX and Pinnacle.

But--Let's say they have just had a bad weekend in whatever sport. Why would they not just "twink" (my madeup word) the settings to pay out less for a few hours? Who can say I'm wrong??[/QUOTE]

You are so right Whoson1st, I've been trying to get this through to everyone for a while now. It's so very simple. Just as you said, the book gets hit hard in the sportsbook, they simply jack up, or "tweak" (word you're looking for) the difficulty level in the casino and take it right back from those unlucky enough to fall into it at the wrong time........

_wheredatreezat · Oct 26, 2004

I actually won pretty damn big over the past 2 days at Pinnacle. Hit for over $4,000. Withdrew 2k, lost 1260 on the Broncos, lost 426 on the tennis match. Then went up some more only to lose it back. Lost 5 or 6 $100 hands in a row, then I had a $300 hand freeze on me, which the casino said I lost so now I am left with nothing. Will take my 2K withdrawal though on a $500 deposit.

Asking them to prove to me what my hands were, let's see if they are correct. If they read off my cards, then I will assume they are correct and will let the $300 slide.

_wheredatreezat · Oct 26, 2004

_wheredatreezat said:
I actually won pretty damn big over the past 2 days at Pinnacle. Hit for over $4,000. Withdrew 2k, lost 1260 on the Broncos, lost 426 on the tennis match. Then went up some more only to lose it back. Lost 5 or 6 $100 hands in a row, then I had a $300 hand freeze on me, which the casino said I lost so now I am left with nothing. Will take my 2K withdrawal though on a $500 deposit.

Asking them to prove to me what my hands were, let's see if they are correct. If they read off my cards, then I will assume they are correct and will let the $300 slide.

This being said, I have lost bunches at VIPsports before, but Pinnacle seems to be a bit more player oriented.

Also, with Pinnacle, what I have noticed is you go through hot streaks, and can win BIG that way. Started off $20 a hand. Win, bet $40, win again bet $80, win again bet $100 and stop at that mark, bet $100 til you lose and drop back down. Once you have your bankroll built up more, up your min play to $40 a hand. If you see you are in a cold streak, bet low until the hot streak comes. You will notice that the 4 - 7 wins in a row are common if you play long enough and catch that streak. this could have been pure luck, but in 2 hours of playing, not even, I won a huge sum of money.

Treez

HacheMan · Oct 26, 2004

_wheredatreezat said:
This being said, I have lost bunches at VIPsports before, but Pinnacle seems to be a bit more player oriented.

Also, with Pinnacle, what I have noticed is you go through hot streaks, and can win BIG that way. Started off $20 a hand. Win, bet $40, win again bet $80, win again bet $100 and stop at that mark, bet $100 til you lose and drop back down. Once you have your bankroll built up more, up your min play to $40 a hand. If you see you are in a cold streak, bet low until the hot streak comes. You will notice that the 4 - 7 wins in a row are common if you play long enough and catch that streak. this could have been pure luck, but in 2 hours of playing, not even, I won a huge sum of money.

Treez

wheredatreezat, there's no doubt that some books offer more fair and trustworthy casinos, that is very clear to anyone that has played these things for years. Also, they do track you playing history, they will tell you that. Fact is, if you're winning, and when they find out and decide enough is enough, you better watch out, because they will eventually take back everything you've won PLUS your original deposit. It's all a ploy. Trust me, it is not coincidence that you can go from winning some hands & going back and forth with the dealer, to all of a sudden the software pauses for a second, and then you can't win a hand if your life depended on it.........
P.S. As I tell many people, if you MUST play online casino games, go play at The Sands, or Casino On Net who specialize only in this and seem much more fair in the long run that those that most books offer.....

_wheredatreezat · Oct 26, 2004

Thanks Hache, I may very well look into doing that. Which do you "prefer" of the two, Sands or Casino on Net, or do you "prefer" both of the equally. Thanks.

Treez