One game I feel may get steamed...

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A's EV. This one has everything you look for. Hot young pitcher, Sarloos, from pitching mecca Cal. St. Fullerton. Just another arm on the A's. Great sink, also movement and control. Had a few more bb's last game vs. same Rangers, but overall shut them down. On the hill for Rangers is Dickey. He got hit hard, by same A's last week. In fact, he is struggling, might drop out of rotation. Been hit very hard on many starts. Unlike his teammate Drese, stiff R.A. is carrying a brutal 7.47 era at home. The teams themselves are going in opposite directions. The A's are winners of 5 straight. Texas 1-4 same last 5. A's bats coming to life, Kotsay a nice Beane aquisition. Texas bats comatose. Back to back shutouts after bp altercation. Individual All Stars Hank Blalock (0-17) and Al Soriano (1-25) are just stinkin it up, not seeing ball at all. And they are supposed to be the big bats? No wonder they are getting shutout. I think they got 3 hit last night. This one seems to have it all. And yes, this an A play. And no, I am not chasing from yesterday's Tiger's squeaker. This is just what I capped. I just missed best +1.03, but got +1.02 to EV. Best Wishes...OF
 

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so, by steam, you mean a lot of sharp action at the last minute?
 

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Thank you my friend.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbet1234:
can someone explain steam? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's the stuff "know it alls" like to shove up your ass.

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what the FVCK is that suppose to mean?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kiss1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbet1234:
can someone explain steam? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's the stuff "know it alls" like to shove up your ass.

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When a betting line starts to move quite rapidly. Most "steam games" do not
necessarily reflect the "right side", but are games that the mass of bettors somehow decide to key on.
 

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thanks general, so what he is saying that the +102 was of good vaule, but once steam is bet, it will drop the line to unfavorable number? ie -101,-102??
 

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bigbet1234,

Scalpers look for possible steam. I do not really. Once the steam comes on, it is not a sure win at all. Just opportunities for scalpers. To much effort for me as my days are to busy already.
 

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OF not being critical, just commenting. Predicting steam is never easy, in this case on paper it easily could appear to any handicapper that the line would move against Texas making Oakland plus +02 a good bet, but right now you can get +05 at Pinnacle. The steam (if any) so far has gone to the Texas side, now this may turn around between now and game time, who knows. Taking a lead on a game is a calculated risk and certainly a bit tricky. The old saw about the Bear getting you and you getting the bear etc. comes into play. Good luck with the A play on Oakland tonight OF and anyone else who played it.

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Taking leads is actually harder than straight capping. Because a lot of times you have to bet teams you don't particularly like, in games you don't like them in. But to get a lead or take the buy back you have to do it on a regular basis.

I generally will only take "large" leads on teams I do think have a better shot to win. For instance, I wouldn't take a large lead on Az no matter how high the odds, because right now they can't post them high enough. And evn if you see +285, you have to think people will bet them and drive it down, but when you look later and they are +300 that cam kill your whole day.
 

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yeah, i am seeing a lot of +105's out there, "wheres the steam!"
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Speaking of taking leads I have taken the Jags +3.5 -110 (or better) whenever possible for week one of the NFL regular season. They are playing at Buffalo, and I will not be surprised to see the game at some point forced down to -3 Bills.

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Wil, might be better take a split with Jags +3.5 and the ML. Typically if a 3.5 dog covers they win SU. And inversley when a -3.5 fave wins SU they cover.

I don't bet any dogs +3.5, basically take them Su and then look to take the fave -3 if it does in fact move. In 274 games since 1992 when that occyured you would have been polish middled only 9 times. And sided (fave winning by 3) 23 times.

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Good point, but I am actually looking to get on both sides of 3 with this game. If (or when) the game moves to 3 I won't mind laying a quarter to buy to -2.5 Bills. So I will be looking at +3.5 -110 and -2.5 -125. BTW. I play a lot of ML dogs in the NFL between +1 and +6.5.

Thanks, wil.
 

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If I ever had that stuff in a database I would save a lot of time.

I have been keping track on spreadshhets and columned paper forever. It is a mess.

I have tried to get a few people to help me get it into a searchable form, but I like to keep it close to the vest.

Besides I can still "search" it just takes 10 minutes instead of 10 seconds.

P.S. Dogs of 4.5 and 5.5 are the ones that show bad results ML. But then again that is my closing number. Which is hard to determine sometimes with those roughe numbers. But basically it is Boyd's (stardust) Which is often a half poitn different than the foriegn books at those numbers.
 

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