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From the 2001 book “Bush’s Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential,” anyone who could read was privy to the way Karl Rove’s brain works, amorally and analytically to only one end: Win an election by any tactic necessary regardless of how it might affect the citizenry .



The bubbling along story about Kerry’s war record finally popped to the top of the media pile on August 20th when, in a carefully researched story entitled “Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad”, located on the top left side of page one of the NY Times, Rove is finally and definitively caught with his fingerprints all over this vicious, and frankly stupid, attempt to discredit the military record of a combat veteran, at the same time his candidate is refusing to disclose his record.



From the Times article: “A series of interviews and a review of documents show a web of connections to the Bush family, high-profile Texas political figures and Bush’s chief political aide, Karl Rove."



Records show that the group received the bulk of its initial financing from two men with ties to the president and his family - one a longtime political associate of Mr. Rove's, the other a trustee of the foundation for Mr. Bush's father's presidential library. A Texas publicist who once helped prepare Mr. Bush's father for his debate when he was running for vice president provided them with strategic advice. And the group's television commercial was produced by the same team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the 1988 presidential election.



The strategy the veterans devised would ultimately paint John Kerry the war hero as John Kerry the "baby killer" and the fabricator of the events that resulted in his war medals. But on close examination, the accounts of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth' prove to be riddled with inconsistencies. In many cases, material offered as proof by these veterans is undercut by official Navy records and the men's own statements.



Several of those now declaring Mr. Kerry "unfit" had lavished praise on him, some as recently as last year.



The Times story goes on to report that “In an unpublished interview in March 2003 with Mr. Kerry's authorized biographer, Douglas Brinkley, provided by Mr. Brinkley to The New York Times, Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group, allowed that he had disagreed with Mr. Kerry's antiwar positions but said, "I am not going to say anything negative about him." He added, "He's a good man." Subsequently, “In a profile of the candidate that ran in The Boston Globe in June 2003, Mr. Hoffmann approvingly recalled the actions that led to Mr. Kerry's Silver Star: "It took guts, and I admire that."



However, Kerry’s anti war stance before Congress in1971 which included criticism of tactics Hoffman advocated apparently festered with Hoffman and the chance to hit Kerry arose when Hoffman linked up with Lonsdale and the links to Rove via Rove’s impeccable and powerful Texas connections. The Times story traces in exhaustive detail the entire connection from the hatred and the money for the ads, etc.



While Rove of course admits knowing some of these ad advocates, in typical fashion he claims that he had not spoken to one of them who put up much of the money “in over a year”“.



Hopefully, all Americans will read this account as it is central to understanding how this Administration plays politics.



This is not just another dirty trick, this is lying at its worst and manipulation of facts at its best. Fortunately, we have a top quality news gathering team that exposed it. This should lead to an understanding by most Americans of how earlier dirty tricks are part of a pattern of behavior used to discredit other opponents and to an understanding of the enormous influence such covert activities can have on our country and its future leadership. Could be Mr. Rove has been involved in one dirty trick too many.


Donald A. Collins
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Kerry should have ran on his Senate record, LMAO! Everyday more and more of the truth surfaces about Kerry.
 

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Mud - I watched the video on The Capitol Gang today also, great shot of a dumbfounded Bush.


Gameface, what are your news sources, please don't say Fox News and Newsmax. You definitely need to get a better picture of what is really happening regarding the SBVTs - their stories ar disintergrating.


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I believe the SBVTs, there's no reason not to. Kerry has been caught lying about Vietnam a number of times. Kerry has changed his story several times, the SBVTs have not.
 

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The Houston Chronicle is one of the most liberal rags in the country, they've been caught lying and making up stories to aid the left for many years.
 

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Hey,

This is just like the whisper camapign that Rove and Bushies conducted in SC. Doesn't matter for them that it's not true, just put it out there and let the right wing hacks repeat it.

For those not familiar with the whisper campaign of 2000, after McCain had taken New Hampshire, Bushies under guise of pollsters would call voters in upcoming South Carolina primary and ask them loaded questions like:

"Does McCain's imprisonment in Viet Nam and its adverse pyshcological damage his chances at being president?"

And they raised another bogus question about his adopted minority child and whether McCain fathered the kid.

Here's McCain, from a long military heritage, a combat pilot, and a POW who refused preferential treatment from the North Vietnamese, who refused an early release because he felt it would have repercussions for his fellow POWs and Rove and the Bushies just try and smear the hell out of him. I gotta go back and read Dante's "The Inferno" to find out what ring of hell these guys belong in.

Repubs will stop at nothing.
 

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Mud, that explains why McCain was campaigning just the other day with Bush doesn't it?
 

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NJ Sports: "How about senator longface releases all of his records?"

How about just look 'em all up on the internet? what's the fvckin difference?

And here's your bonus question: While we're speaking of Viet Nam era service, how many Alabama Guard Unit members whom Dubya allegedly served with will come out, stand on the podium at the Republican National Convention and endorse him?

Thanks for playing.
 

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Shot,

Maybe he apologized to McCain in private, I do not know. Just trying to point out that Bushies will stop at nothing. And Shot, if you really view the video Dubya looks like a 6 year old who just shvt his pants and is trying to deny it - freakin hilarious.
 

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Mud, I like McCain... I wanted him to win the nomination in 2000. But I don't really care about the whisper campaign; it happens in every election. That's part of the game, and McCain is man enough to understand it even if he didn't like it.

Dumb commercial by the way; not very effective when you consider McCain is going to give a keynote address endorsing Bush for President in two weeks.

But hey, the left has sunk millions down the toilet this political season. Nothing new there.
Just imagine, though, if George Soros had sent his millions to the Swiftboat Vets instead of Harold Ickes and Move-on.org (which, of course, has no ties to the DNC).
 

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Shot,

I will completely admit that under current election rules, people like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth for the righties and Move On. Org for the lefties are just quasi-legal methods of circumventing the intention of electoral (sp?) legislation.

Both sides equally guilty of trying to circumvent, IMO.

To me, here is the major difference: Bushies have no moral qualms about turning dogs loose on their own like McCain, not only a fellow Republican, but a respected veteran - if they see them standing in the way. And Repubs continually manufacture complete bullshvt stories like Paul Wellstone's funeral, Clinton Admin's defacing of White House, Travelgate, Vince Foster, ad nauseum, only to be refuted by facts every time.

But it never stops because to Dubya, Cheney, Rove, Hughes, and the right wing lackeys like the drug-addled Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Fox News, etc., the end justifies the means. IMO, that's the difference.
 

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It's a bullshit story the Clinton enjoyed several blowjobs in the White House, as he was talking to defense department officials about the war in Kosovo? What the hell are you smoking? You don't think Wellstone's funeral turned into a democratic rally? What planet are you from. Bush had nothing to do with the SwiftBoat ad, the stupid ass campaign finance reform law allows no contact with the 527 organizations. There's the bullshit story, and it came from you.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mudbone:
But it never stops because to Dubya, Cheney, Rove, Hughes, and the right wing lackeys like the drug-addled Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Fox News, etc., the end justifies the means. IMO, that's the difference. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mud, we've posted a number of articles detailing how Michael Moore lied in his movies on this site. We've posted the Christmas in Cambodia fraud that that Kerry used to pump up his career. Time and time again we have seen you, Wilheim and others on here ignore Kerry's lies because he is running against Bush. How you can say it is the GOP that pushes the "end justifies the means" philosophy is beyond me.
 
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The poor downtrodden people that kerry is "one of" may not have the internet , so Kerry should release them to the public.
 

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