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Ran into a site talking about this today... thought I would share some of the things I read...

For most of the industry's patrons, gambling is fun and a form of harmless entertainment. For the four to six percent of gamblers who become problem or pathological (compulsive) gamblers, however, it can be a devastating illness that negatively affects every aspect of their lives.

What is the difference between casual
social gambling
and pathological gambling?

Gambling can be defined as playing a game of chance for stakes. Gambling occurs in many forms, most commonly pari-mutuels (horse and dog tracks, off-track-betting parlors, Jai Alai), lotteries, casinos (slot machines, table games), bookmaking (sports books and horse books), card rooms, bingo and the stock market.

Pathological gambling is a progressive disease that devastates not only the gambler but everyone with whom he or she has a significant relationship. In 1980, the American Psychiatric Association accepted pathological gambling as a "disorder of impulse control." It is an illness that is chronic and progressive, but it can be diagnosed and treated.

Robert L. Custer, M.D., identified the progression of gambling addiction as including

Three phases:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>the winning phase
<LI>the losing phase
<LI>and the desperation phase.
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During the winning phase, gamblers experience a big win ­ or a series of wins ­ that leaves them with unreasonable optimism that their winning will continue. This leads them to feel great excitement when gambling, and they begin increasing the amounts of their bets.

During the losing phase, the gamblers often begin bragging about wins they have had, start gambling alone, think more about gambling and borrow money ­ legally or illegally. They start lying to family and friends and become more irritable, restless and withdrawn. Their home life becomes more unhappy, and they are unable to pay off debts. The gamblers begin to "chase" their losses, believing they must return as soon as possible to win back their losses.

During the desperation phase, there is a marked increase in the time spent gambling. This is accompanied by remorse, blaming others and alienating family and friends. Eventually, the gamblers may engage in illegal acts to finance their gambling. They may experience hopelessness, suicidal thoughts and attempts, arrests, divorce, alcohol and/or other drug abuse, or an emotional breakdown.


Who is affected?

Current estimates suggest that three percent of the adult population will experience a serious problem with gambling that will result in significant debt, family disruption, job losses, criminal activity or suicide.
Pathological gambling affects the gamblers, their families, their employers and the community. As the gamblers go through the phases of their addiction, they spend less time with their family and spend more of their family's money on gambling until their bank accounts are depleted. Then they may steal money from family members.

At work, the pathological gambler misuses time in order to gamble, has difficulty concentrating and finishing projects and may engage in embezzlement, employee theft or other illegal activities.
 

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Damn I knew i was 4-6% of something, its COMPULSIVE GAMBLERS! Be realistic That # should be higher I think! Then again maybe not!!
 

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Anything in there about PATHOLOGICAL Posters? The General might need to check himself for that...LOL
 

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Soothsayer,

Posting is the least of my mental issues. I assure you that.

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General??

How many posters have you helped out in the past in the 27 months you've been posting??
 

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Let's make no mistake about the motives of psychiatrists and the psychiatric profession -- they label something a "disease" when it causes problems for society. It has nothing to do with the level of suffering of the individual. A prime example is Mother Theresa -- she suffered from obsessive-compulsive disorder in a major way. This is obvious from watching her in action for 5 seconds. Her internal mechanisms were like "Oh My God, gotta help the next person, Oh my God, gotta help the next person, etc." kind of like a pathological gambler "Oh my God, gotta place a bet, Oh my God, gotta place a bet, etc." The psychology behind the two cases are eerily similar but no university will EVER provide funding for a study which aims to prove these similarities, no matter how convincing a case you have.

The difference of course is that Mother Theresa types promote the goals of modern society -- ie. to turn people into altruistic mindless obedient drones -- while the other creates a drain because of crime and other disturbances. There could be very valid reasons why someone would gamble compulsively -- to find meaning and purpose in life, to be forced to actually struggle for something, to get needed attention after years of neglect, etc.

Psychiatry is just another avenue of law enforcement -- one that is cost effective because it focuses on prevention. Pills are much cheaper than maintaining a jail cell, and even the pills are paid by the patient while the jail is paid by society.

Of course there is nothing wrong with enforcing laws in whatever way that works. It's nice to not have to worry about people breaking in to my house because they need gambling money. Still, let's not be fooled by what psychiatrists are doing. They couldn't give a fvck about the individual they are "treating". They are there to serve and protect.
 

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Good post Darryl


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimFiestSux:
General??

How many posters have you helped out in the past in the 27 months you've been posting??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There have been many that I have tried to help. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. I like to believe that we learn in losing as well as winning. I do not have an exact count. I just like helping when I can, then toss it in the trash and await the next.
 
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I agree with Darryl. Show me a psychiatrist or psychologist and I'll show you a professional liar. I don't like this quack's slamming of the act of gambling alone; I've found that's the best way to do it.
 

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I think it is about split. There are many that never hit the forum. Awhile back, I started copying all complaints I receive to the BR. This helps by allowing for more opinions and not throwing the book out to slaughter without a chance to contact them 1st.
 

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Its great to know that you are here for the player untill proven otherwise!! Between you and Shrink this forum always will be #1. Anything heard bout Gamblixx situationwith Rio?? Just curious bout principle??
 

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Jim,

Rio stated they will pay his bonus and then this player is not welcome to play there anylonger. As long as a book pays up, then I believe they have every right to boot a player for any reason.
 

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Absolutely,
This should've never gone this far over a lousy few dollars! But principle was at stake! I see this morning he tried to join again with an extra x at the end of his name,lol! You guys deleted every post within seconds,lol! Good for you to be on top of things like that!
 

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Yes sir. There is a good group here. Everyone tries hard to do what is best for the site. It is not always easy, but it would be boring if it was.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ran into a site talking about this today... thought I would share some of the things I read...

For most of the industry's patrons, gambling is fun and a form of harmless entertainment. For the four to six percent of gamblers who become problem or pathological (compulsive) gamblers, however, it can be a devastating illness that negatively affects every aspect of their lives.

What is the difference between casual
social gambling and pathological gambling?

Gambling can be defined as playing a game of chance for stakes. Gambling occurs in many forms, most commonly pari-mutuels (horse and dog tracks, off-track-betting parlors, Jai Alai), lotteries, casinos (slot machines, table games), bookmaking (sports books and horse books), card rooms, bingo and the stock market.

Pathological gambling is a progressive disease that devastates not only the gambler but everyone with whom he or she has a significant relationship. In 1980, the American Psychiatric Association accepted pathological gambling as a "disorder of impulse control." It is an illness that is chronic and progressive, but it can be diagnosed and treated.

Robert L. Custer, M.D., identified the progression of gambling addiction as including

Three phases:



the winning phase

the losing phase

and the desperation phase.


During the winning phase, gamblers experience a big win ­ or a series of wins ­ that leaves them with unreasonable optimism that their winning will continue. This leads them to feel great excitement when gambling, and they begin increasing the amounts of their bets.

During the losing phase, the gamblers often begin bragging about wins they have had, start gambling alone, think more about gambling and borrow money ­ legally or illegally. They start lying to family and friends and become more irritable, restless and withdrawn. Their home life becomes more unhappy, and they are unable to pay off debts. The gamblers begin to "chase" their losses, believing they must return as soon as possible to win back their losses.

During the desperation phase, there is a marked increase in the time spent gambling. This is accompanied by remorse, blaming others and alienating family and friends. Eventually, the gamblers may engage in illegal acts to finance their gambling. They may experience hopelessness, suicidal thoughts and attempts, arrests, divorce, alcohol and/or other drug abuse, or an emotional breakdown.


Who is affected?

Current estimates suggest that three percent of the adult population will experience a serious problem with gambling that will result in significant debt, family disruption, job losses, criminal activity or suicide.
Pathological gambling affects the gamblers, their families, their employers and the community. As the gamblers go through the phases of their addiction, they spend less time with their family and spend more of their family's money on gambling until their bank accounts are depleted. Then they may steal money from family members.

At work, the pathological gambler misuses time in order to gamble, has difficulty concentrating and finishing projects and may engage in embezzlement, employee theft or other illegal activities. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
 

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While we are on the subject, there is not a player one I will refuse to assist if I can. I can think of one time when I refused to help someone and let's just say he was being an ass and I asked if someone else would assist him. Either way, we are always willing to work on disputes. Normally the player is more than willing to give us some time to try and reach an agreement. Whether an advertiser or not, we will try to arbitrate the matter the best we can.
 

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Thats great to know! But posters should be prepared with the correct info to give to you guys before posting any negativity bout ANY book! There are hot headed people here and I'm one too!!
 

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im looking forward to be a pathological winner
 

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I thought Parson's analogy of Mother Theresa to a pathological gambler was the most superfluous comment that I ever read here, but then noticed his tagline & was intrigued.
Darryl, is that an original quote?
I've got to admit I've never heard of "Pascal's Wager" before reading this post.
 

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