What if round 1 was done as home field advantage? (based on some bs bcs or similar system that people will complain about anyways until it is fixed)
and final 2 rounds (final 4) all held at one location (simialar to NCAA basketball)?
Then an 16 team playoff would start with 8 venues at the individual colleges...then the remaining 8 can play in the current 4 BCS bowls (Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, Orange), and the final 4 can go to the BCS championship site?
That would allow for 4 weeks though....probably the biggest issue....
an 8-team playoff and eliminating home field round 1 would be feasible to me (but we will have only 8 teams for the NC instead of the current 10 BCS teams w/ only 2 for the NC)
Zero...Big Ten and Pac 10 make more money now then they would in a playoff system. Jim Delany holds most the power to a playoff and he is opposed
From Yahoo Sports
From Big Ten headquarters in Chicago, Jim Delany presides over a college sports monarchy. The Big Ten is the nation's biggest conference, a collection of 11 universities that covers an area with almost 25 percent of the nation's TV households and prompts television networks to genuflect.
When Delany arrived at ESPN's headquarters in Bristol, Conn., this year, employees wore buttons that proclaimed "Bristol is Big Ten Country."
Despite the royal treatment, Delany dismisses talk that he is the king of college athletics. But at times one would think he wore a crown.
The Rose Bowl is the emergency exit for the Big Ten and Pac-10, the one that allows those two conferences to block movement toward a playoff because they can back out of the plan and return to the old days when their champions met in Pasadena and made millions.
In the current BCS deal, Delany secured valuable concessions for the Pasadena, Calif.-based bowl.
The waiving of a $6 million BCS entry fee.
A separate and extremely rich (eight years, $300 million) television deal with ABC. All other BCS games – Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Orange Bowl and BCS championship game – are broadcast on Fox.
Favored status in the team selection process that encourages the Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup that features the kind of tradition-rich, major-market powerhouses, that almost ensure high television ratings.
An escape from ever having to select a non-BCS conference team such as Boise State, which despite its Fiesta Bowl heroics this year is a potential ratings and revenue risk for a bowl game.
Exclusivity to the coveted late afternoon New Year's Day time slot.
"It's a matter of independence and control," Delany said.
It is a deal that every other bowl game, and every other conference, would die to have because it generates additional money, prestige and, most importantly, power. Delany is well aware that a playoff would generate a bigger revenue pie for his league to feast on, but it also would require him to give up the knife that cuts the slices.
Delany admits the most common arguments against a playoff – including ones he expounded in front of Congress – such as academics, scheduling and increased demand on student athletes are not legitimate. "The academic effect," he said, "it's just not a credible argument."
This is solely about business.
In essence, the Big Ten and the Pac-10 dictate the postseason plans of all of college football because of the business of the Rose Bowl.
Delany and the Pac-10's Tom Hansen are the only two conference commissioners currently completely opposed to not just a playoff but also any movement in that direction (the often discussed Plus-One model).
Barring a well-organized and well-disciplined movement by the other nine conferences and independent Notre Dame, there is no breaking through that roadblock.
Unless, of course, the Rose Bowl wasn't such a big deal anymore. Unless there was a grassroots effort to kill the ratings, drain the revenue and weaken the base of strength against a championship tournament.
It certainly wouldn't happen overnight, but at this point, it may be the only plan that ever will work.
College football is big business run by cold, calculating businessmen. Money and television ratings are the only things that talk.
From Yahoo Sports
From Big Ten headquarters in Chicago, Jim Delany presides over a college sports monarchy. The Big Ten is the nation's biggest conference, a collection of 11 universities that covers an area with almost 25 percent of the nation's TV households and prompts television networks to genuflect.
When Delany arrived at ESPN's headquarters in Bristol, Conn., this year, employees wore buttons that proclaimed "Bristol is Big Ten Country."
Despite the royal treatment, Delany dismisses talk that he is the king of college athletics. But at times one would think he wore a crown.
The Rose Bowl is the emergency exit for the Big Ten and Pac-10, the one that allows those two conferences to block movement toward a playoff because they can back out of the plan and return to the old days when their champions met in Pasadena and made millions.
In the current BCS deal, Delany secured valuable concessions for the Pasadena, Calif.-based bowl.
The waiving of a $6 million BCS entry fee.
A separate and extremely rich (eight years, $300 million) television deal with ABC. All other BCS games – Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Orange Bowl and BCS championship game – are broadcast on Fox.
Favored status in the team selection process that encourages the Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup that features the kind of tradition-rich, major-market powerhouses, that almost ensure high television ratings.
An escape from ever having to select a non-BCS conference team such as Boise State, which despite its Fiesta Bowl heroics this year is a potential ratings and revenue risk for a bowl game.
Exclusivity to the coveted late afternoon New Year's Day time slot.
"It's a matter of independence and control," Delany said.
It is a deal that every other bowl game, and every other conference, would die to have because it generates additional money, prestige and, most importantly, power. Delany is well aware that a playoff would generate a bigger revenue pie for his league to feast on, but it also would require him to give up the knife that cuts the slices.
Delany admits the most common arguments against a playoff – including ones he expounded in front of Congress – such as academics, scheduling and increased demand on student athletes are not legitimate. "The academic effect," he said, "it's just not a credible argument."
This is solely about business.
In essence, the Big Ten and the Pac-10 dictate the postseason plans of all of college football because of the business of the Rose Bowl.
Delany and the Pac-10's Tom Hansen are the only two conference commissioners currently completely opposed to not just a playoff but also any movement in that direction (the often discussed Plus-One model).
Barring a well-organized and well-disciplined movement by the other nine conferences and independent Notre Dame, there is no breaking through that roadblock.
Unless, of course, the Rose Bowl wasn't such a big deal anymore. Unless there was a grassroots effort to kill the ratings, drain the revenue and weaken the base of strength against a championship tournament.
It certainly wouldn't happen overnight, but at this point, it may be the only plan that ever will work.
College football is big business run by cold, calculating businessmen. Money and television ratings are the only things that talk.
I'm sorry, the Big 11 and the Pac 10 are not the most powerful conferences in college football, the SEC and Big 12 are. The Pac and Big 11 can make threats all they want, the real big boys will just say fuck off if push comes to shove. We might have seen that happen if somehow USC had magically leapfrogged OK and LSU/Georgia to get the second seed.
The next time the SEC gets screwed out of a legit opportunity to play for the national championship (see Auburn 04), we'll see who wields the most power. The true powers that be will call the Big 11's bluff and watch how fast they fold. I guarantee USC would declare holy war on Tom Hanson and the Pac 10 if they were ranked #1 in the BCS but couldn't participate in a national tournament because of the Rose Bowl TV deal.
So you're somehow bitter that LSU is playing for the title. Big surprise. USC had as much a right to be there as Stanford does. And as for ASU call, great job (as usual). And let me guess. You feel like they got "screwed" too. ASu beat who.....?
As for this thread. Zero chance of a playoff
The other conferences would have to give a bigger percent of any money to the Big 10 and Pac 10 in any multi million dollar deal with TV to cover the playoffs since the Big Ten and Pac 10 offers the biggest TV audience as mention in the yahoo article. They make the most under the current system and get a few extra perks from the BCS and they wont give that up.
A playoff that did not include the Pac10 and Big 10 would not get near as much money from TV without them.
Top 5 tV markets right now,
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) 2006-2007
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
Only New York does not have Big 10 ties, No SEC teams even play near the top 5 TV market, SEC stronger at football but not TV ad revenue
A playoff that did not include the Pac10 and Big 10 would not get near as much money from TV without them.
Top 5 tV markets right now,
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) 2006-2007
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
Only New York does not have Big 10 ties, No SEC teams even play near the top 5 TV market, SEC stronger at football but not TV ad revenue
