Oldman's Proposition Bet - Cleveland/Orlando

[oldmanTED]

Cleveland/Orlando Largest Lead Under 14.5 (+100) 5Dimes

Call this one a feeling. Believe this critical game will be tight the entire game and neither coach will allow long spurts of scoring without calling timeout. Also, believe these teams might find themselves a bit tight. Orlando has never been here and Cleveland, although having been here, should find it difficult to open any large lead on the road.

Good luck everyone!

 

[cashflowmatters]

GL on the action Ted, the Turkoglu OVER is of interest to me again tonight, what do you think?

 

[oldmanTED]

GL on the action Ted, the Turkoglu OVER is of interest to me again tonight, what do you think?

Cash:

You were on the mark the other night on Hedo. He has had my number as I played him twice losing both on his points scored and over in free throws, so clearly I don't have a good handle on him. FWIW, he doesn't score as well at home for some reason. Cleveland changed their defense on him in Game 5, by not jumping out on him in the high pick and roll with Howard. They fell back to guard Howard, not allowing him easy baskets. This allowed Hedo to drive to his right where he could stop and pop, including 3's or drive to the hoop and either score or get fouled. If the Cavs use the same defense, he should score again. If they go back to the defense they were using through Game 4 by jumping out at him, then he will have more difficulty getting open shots. Best of luck whatever you decide to do.

 

[crazyivan]

Yesterday 3-1 in props, here are my freebies for ya'll:

Mo Williams +1.5 pts vs Rashard Lewis (-115)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas Over 20 pts/reb (-115)
Anderson Varejao Under 14.5 pts/reb (-155)
Delonte West +1 pts/ast vs Rafer Alston (+105)

 

[quantumleap]

Good luck Ted!

Thanks cash and ivan for your input.

 

[cashflowmatters]

Cash:

You were on the mark the other night on Hedo. He has had my number as I played him twice losing both on his points scored and over in free throws, so clearly I don't have a good handle on him. FWIW, he doesn't score as well at home for some reason. Cleveland changed their defense on him in Game 5, by not jumping out on him in the high pick and roll with Howard. They fell back to guard Howard, not allowing him easy baskets. This allowed Hedo to drive to his right where he could stop and pop, including 3's or drive to the hoop and either score or get fouled. If the Cavs use the same defense, he should score again. If they go back to the defense they were using through Game 4 by jumping out at him, then he will have more difficulty getting open shots. Best of luck whatever you decide to do.

I don't see the Cavs changing anything from game #5, it is the only game in the series where imo they were competitive with Orlando. I honestly believe Orlando is the better team. Getting back to the Turkoglu OVER tonight, I do know very well that he has been a monster on the road & a lamb at home, with the Cavs committing to not letting Howard beat them a guy like Turk should be able to shoot open shots tonight & after he drills a couple the Cavs will come a little allowing spce to drive for easy baskets or f/t chances, this being said I have pulled the trigger, OVER Turkoblu it is for me tonight. GL on ur action.

For the record I think the Magic end this series tonight.

 

[oldmanTED]

I don't see the Cavs changing anything from game #5, it is the only game in the series where imo they were competitive with Orlando. I honestly believe Orlando is the better team. Getting back to the Turkoglu OVER tonight, I do know very well that he has been a monster on the road & a lamb at home, with the Cavs committing to not letting Howard beat them a guy like Turk should be able to shoot open shots tonight & after he drills a couple the Cavs will come a little allowing spce to drive for easy baskets or f/t chances, this being said I have pulled the trigger, OVER Turkoblu it is for me tonight. GL on ur action.

For the record I think the Magic end this series tonight.

As always, best of luck tonight Cash.

 

[uscmd]

bol omt

 

[oldmanTED]

bol omt

Thank you. Same to you.:toast:

 

[quantumleap]

Cash:

You were on the mark the other night on Hedo. He has had my number as I played him twice losing both on his points scored and over in free throws, so clearly I don't have a good handle on him. FWIW, he doesn't score as well at home for some reason. Cleveland changed their defense on him in Game 5, by not jumping out on him in the high pick and roll with Howard. They fell back to guard Howard, not allowing him easy baskets. This allowed Hedo to drive to his right where he could stop and pop, including 3's or drive to the hoop and either score or get fouled. If the Cavs use the same defense, he should score again. If they go back to the defense they were using through Game 4 by jumping out at him, then he will have more difficulty getting open shots. Best of luck whatever you decide to do.

That's the tough thing about playing these props. The coach may have a different role for a player than the previous game or if you are taking the under for a player that player's teammates may suck so the player steps up and outperforms.

 

[oldmanTED]

<TABLE class=yspcontent border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=974><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><SCRIPT src="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.com/lib/common/utils/event_1.0.0.js"></SCRIPT><SCRIPT src="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.com/lib/common/utils/connect_1.1.1.js"></SCRIPT><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=7><SPACER width="1" height="1" type="block"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=660><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> var refreshFlag = false </SCRIPT><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=7></TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Orlando 103, Cleveland 90 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=7></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD>Preview - Box Score - Recap - Series Breakdown

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR align=middle><TD> (66-16)
</TD><TD width=370><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=ysptblbdr2><TABLE class=ysptblclbg3 border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=ysptblbdr2><TD height=1 colSpan=15></TD></TR><TR align=middle bgColor=#dedec6><TD class=ysptblbdr2 rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD height=18 width=10> </TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspwhitebg rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD class=yspscores width=25>1</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD class=yspscores width=25>2</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD class=yspscores width=25>3</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD class=yspscores width=25>4</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg rowSpan=5 width=1></TD><TD class="yspscores total" width=35 align=right>Total</TD><TD class=yspscores width=65></TD><TD class=ysptblbdr2 rowSpan=5 width=1></TD></TR><TR class=yspwhitebg><TD height=1 colSpan=13></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg5 align=middle><TD height=23 width=10></TD><TD class="yspscores team" align=left>Cleveland </TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD class=yspscores>30</TD><TD class=yspscores>20</TD><TD class="ysptblclbg6 total" align=right>90 </TD><TD class="ysptblclbg6 total" align=right>Final </TD></TR><TR class=yspwhitebg><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD height=1 colSpan=8></TD><TD class=ysptblclbg6 colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg5 align=middle><TD height=23 width=10>

</TD><TD class="yspscores team" align=left>Orlando </TD><TD class=yspscores>30</TD><TD class=yspscores>28</TD><TD class=yspscores>28</TD><TD class=yspscores>17</TD><TD class="ysptblclbg6 total" align=right>103 </TD><TD class="ysptblclbg6 total" align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblbdr2><TD height=1 colSpan=15></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD> (59-23)
</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7 colSpan=3></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=7></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr height=18 colSpan=8> Cleveland </TD><TD class=ysptblhdr height=18 colSpan=8 align=right></TD></TR><TR class="ysptblthbody1 yspboxscore-columnheader-row" align=right><TD class="yspdetailttl player" height=18 width="17%" align=left> Starters </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="4%"></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Min</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">FG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">3Pt</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">FT</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">+/-</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Off</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Reb</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Ast</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">TO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Stl</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">PF</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Pts </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> D. West </TD><TD class=player>G </TD><TD>46:21</TD><TD>9-19</TD><TD>2-3</TD><TD>2-4</TD><TD>-9 </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>22 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> M. Williams </TD><TD class=player>G </TD><TD>38:51</TD><TD>6-12</TD><TD>3-4</TD><TD>2-2</TD><TD>-6 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>17 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> Z. Ilgauskas </TD><TD class=player>C </TD><TD>21:54</TD><TD>1-5</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-2</TD><TD>-6 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> L. James </TD><TD class=player>F </TD><TD>44:53</TD><TD>8-20</TD><TD>2-8</TD><TD>7-11</TD><TD>-12 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>25 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> A. Varejao </TD><TD class=player>F </TD><TD>32:52</TD><TD>7-12</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>-2 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>14 </TD></TR><TR class="ysptblthbody1 yspboxscore-columnheader-row" align=right><TD class="yspdetailttl player" height=18 width="17%" align=left> Bench </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="4%"></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Min</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">FG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">3Pt</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">FT</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">+/-</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Off</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Reb</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Ast</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">TO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Stl</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">PF</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Pts </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> D. Gibson </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>20:38</TD><TD>1-3</TD><TD>1-2</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>-16 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> B. Wallace </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>14:06</TD><TD>2-3</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-2</TD><TD>-8 </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> W. Szczerbiak </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>13:57</TD><TD>1-5</TD><TD>1-3</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>-9 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> S. Pavlovic </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>5:24</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>+3 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> T. Kinsey </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>1:02</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> D. Jackson </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> J. Smith </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblbdr3><TD height=1 colSpan=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg5 align=right><TD class=sum height=18 align=left> Totals</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>35-79</TD><TD>9-20</TD><TD>11-22</TD><TD></TD><TD>8</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>90 </TD></TR><TR align=right><TD class=sum height=18 align=left> Percentages:</TD><TD colSpan=2> </TD><TD>.443</TD><TD>.450</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=team-rebounds colSpan=9 align=left>Team Rebounds: 13 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=7></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr height=18 colSpan=8> Orlando </TD><TD class=ysptblhdr height=18 colSpan=8 align=right></TD></TR><TR class="ysptblthbody1 yspboxscore-columnheader-row" align=right><TD class="yspdetailttl player" height=18 width="17%" align=left> Starters </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="4%"></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Min</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">FG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">3Pt</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">FT</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">+/-</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Off</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Reb</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Ast</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">TO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Stl</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">PF</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Pts </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> R. Alston </TD><TD class=player>G </TD><TD>37:44</TD><TD>5-16</TD><TD>3-7</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>+6 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>13 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> C. Lee </TD><TD class=player>G </TD><TD>30:09</TD><TD>4-7</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>+15 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> D. Howard </TD><TD class=player>C </TD><TD>41:27</TD><TD>14-21</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>12-16</TD><TD>+13 </TD><TD>6</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>40 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> R. Lewis </TD><TD class=player>F </TD><TD>40:34</TD><TD>6-13</TD><TD>3-7</TD><TD>3-3</TD><TD>+7 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>18 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> H. Turkoglu </TD><TD class=player>F </TD><TD>37:37</TD><TD>3-12</TD><TD>2-6</TD><TD>2-2</TD><TD>+1 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>10 </TD></TR><TR class="ysptblthbody1 yspboxscore-columnheader-row" align=right><TD class="yspdetailttl player" height=18 width="17%" align=left> Bench </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="4%"></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Min</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">FG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">3Pt</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">FT</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="6%">+/-</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Off</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Reb</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Ast</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">TO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">Stl</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">BA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="5%">PF</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">Pts </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> M. Pietrus </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>35:01</TD><TD>5-10</TD><TD>4-7</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>+13 </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>14 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> A. Johnson </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>10:54</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>+10 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> M. Gortat </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD>6:33</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0 </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> T. Battie </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> A. Foyle </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=player align=left> T. Lue </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=player align=left> J.J. Redick </TD><TD class=player></TD><TD class=dnp colSpan=14 align=middle>DNP - Coach's Decision</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblbdr3><TD height=1 colSpan=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg5 align=right><TD class=sum height=18 align=left> Totals</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>37-80</TD><TD>12-29</TD><TD>17-21</TD><TD></TD><TD>11</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>103 </TD></TR><TR align=right><TD class=sum height=18 align=left> Percentages:</TD><TD colSpan=2> </TD><TD>.462</TD><TD>.414</TD><TD>.810</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=team-rebounds colSpan=9 align=left>Team Rebounds: 8 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=7></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr height=18 colSpan=2> Game Info</TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspnotice vAlign=top width="50%"> Technical Fouls: None
</TD><TD class=yspnotice vAlign=top width="50%"> Arena: Amway Arena, Orlando, FL
Attendance: 17,461
Officials: Bennett Salvatore, Derrick Stafford, Steve Javie
Duration: 2:29
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