OK...this Hawaii-Wash St line is retarded...

[PS68]

anyone else think Hawaii as a 29' point favorite as ridiculous considering Wash St is playing much better (couldn't get much worse) and Hawaii averaging about 24 ppg? I mean, damn...in looking at about 5-6 power rankings I respect, none have this as more than a 3 TD game...I have to say that this stands out as the line that is off by the most this week...I was expecting 17-20 or so...

You gonna lay 30 with a team that averages 24? I don't think so...

 

[YourAllAmerican]

Washington State has had their most miserable season ever. Opponents have routinely scored 50 on them. Now they get their big, season-defining win against the major rival before ending the misery with a free trip to the islands. Just how much do you figure they care about the game with the Warriors?

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

The motivation is not there for them. This is like getting an early Christmas present for beating your main rival. Don't you think the books know Hawaii only averages a certain amount of points at home yet opened the line above that #?

Hawaii should be able to name their score here.

 

[PS68]

no...I don't think Vegas Knows that...I think they're totally in the dark about Hawaii's offense:think2:

look at it this way...in the Massey consensus (mratings.com)WashSt is 115, Hawaii 64...look at these matchups of the teams above and below WashSt/Hawaii and ask yourself what the line should be in these hypothetical matchups...


SDSt-Baylor
La-Mon-Duke

They wouldn't be close to 29, and I think if you're giving 7-10 points for emotion, you're overpaying...for chrissakes Idaho was what, +23? And the result flattered Hawaii's offense as they only gained 350 or so vs Idaho. WasSt is clearly a better team than Idaho. It'll be my biggest play of the week, so we'll see what happens...that's why it's gambling...

 

[Conan]

The motivation is not there for them. This is like getting an early Christmas present for beating your main rival. Don't you think the books know Hawaii only averages a certain amount of points at home yet opened the line above that #?

Hawaii should be able to name their score here.

At first I thought the same thing. But then I started thinking about the Apple Cup and how they took that win. They might be up to playing a little bit better game and Hawaii isn't exactly tearing up the WAC like they were doing last year. I lean on Hawaii but with a line like that, all it would take would be about 10-13 points for a back door cover so I decided I'd play it safe and look elsewhere.

 

[YourAllAmerican]

WasSt is clearly a better team than Idaho.

Noooooo, I wouldn't say that. Washington State is bad, bad, BAD. You could make an argument that Idaho is worse, but that would be open to a lot of debate.

I think you may be giving Wazzou too much credit for briefly keeping games from getting out of control against Arizona and Arizona State, and they did to that in comparison to the embarassing blowouts in the several weeks before. But let's keep things in perspective, the Cougars still lost by 31 points in each of those games. It's not like they were one or two breaks away from pulling an upset.

 

[Addict101]

Fuck the Huskies.

 

[gunfunitkid]

I think this line is way off. I was expecting 7-10pts. On the other hand hawaii is playing for a bowl berth. They need to win 1 more game in order to do that. The only motivation that wazzu has is to play spoiler. After the Wazzu game hawaii has to play cinci. Expect hawaii to come out with alot of determination, but no way they cover. Another point is Coach Mack has a 35pts rule, even if hawaii is up by 28 or more going into the 4th quarter he'll try to slow the game down and start running. My play is Wazzu or no play. GL with what you decide.

 

[hanabada]

anyone else think Hawaii as a 29' point favorite as ridiculous considering Wash St is playing much better (couldn't get much worse) and Hawaii averaging about 24 ppg? I mean, damn...in looking at about 5-6 power rankings I respect, none have this as more than a 3 TD game...I have to say that this stands out as the line that is off by the most this week...I was expecting 17-20 or so...

You gonna lay 30 with a team that averages 24? I don't think so...

Hawaii's offense is starting to click and they're playing a lot better than when the season started. The past 4 games, they've been averaging about 35 ppg, with Alexander as the qb (he didn't start against Nevada, but came in to rally HI to get the win) As for the last game against Idaho, if Idaho didn't give HI points due to costly turnovers and a onside kick, I believe they wouldn't get the cover due to Mac's philosphy.

I cannot see why anyone want to put money on Wazzu, so if you like wazzu, then put your bet in early because I think by game time the line should come down, as more people will be thinking the same. This game has to many unknowns to call in a play, but good luck with your decision.

 

[YourAllAmerican]

Another point is Coach Mack has a 35pts rule, even if hawaii is up by 28 or more going into the 4th quarter he'll try to slow the game down and start running.

His "35-point rule" would actually work in favor of covering the spread. That's the lead that McMackin considers to be his comfort margin, but no point difference below that figure. It dates back to his time as an assistant at Stanford when the team brought in subs with a lead of something along the lines of 24-7 late in the game. The Cardinal ended up losing that game, so McMackin makes a point of not backing off any unless his team is up by at least 5 touchdowns.

 

[sarcean]

No Washington State is bad..really bad...I mean historically this team will go down as one of the worst teams of a major conference of all time this year.

118th in total offense, 118th in scoring defense AND scoring offense, and 109th in total defense

They have effectively zero passing game and an equally bad running game. I could never in good concious put money on them to cover the spread.

 

[pizzap]

hawaii needs this game to be bowl eligible so full attention to WSU too. i think they bring the whoopin stick on them this saturday.

 

[Addict101]

No Washington State is bad..really bad...I mean historically this team will go down as one of the worst teams of a major conference of all time this year.

118th in total offense, 118th in scoring defense AND scoring offense, and 109th in total defense

They have effectively zero passing game and an equally bad running game. I could never in good concious put money on them to cover the spread.

Not worse than the UW :lolBIG:

 

[aaronjacob]

Damn right UW is the worst team ever. Huck the Fuskies!!!
What a great game it was!!!!

 

[PS68]

one of the very worst bcs teams ever...

not much doubt about that...everything has a price...