Ok State - anybody else like 'em?

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I know that A&M is about as public a team as you can get, so I am sure there are a lot of experts from College Station. I happened to have OSU -6.5 last year when they played at A&M and it was quite easy, 38-10. After a horrendous start against Utah, A&M has stepped up and not only covered their last 4, but blown them away. To lay 8.5 here is a gift. My numbers have OSU as a 12-14 point favorite. With the line now at 7, obviously A&M backers have pressed it down due to their 4-game winning streak. OK State always tends to cover the number in the beginning of the year and this will be no exception. I am interested in your thoughts.
 

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No. I have made significant money on them this year, but I just see this as a go against play. I believe they have covered every game this year. I have been on them on I think 3 this year. They don't get the cover in this game though I think they get the win. Over a TD is alot to cover. It is homecoming which my buddy acrost the street warned me as he is an OSU grad. I will grab up the points as I think this is a close game.
 

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Okla St is 4-1 ATS this year. All 4 covers were EASY double digit ones. The only game they didn't was Tulsa in the 2nd week. OSU was -21 and won 38-21 as Tulsa scored twice in the last 6 minutes in garbage time.
 

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This is a tough call for me. I'm an OSU alumn, and have bet on them every game...of course! and as he said they are 4-1 ats.

This is a huge game for OSU, being homecoming, with the new stadium, recruiting, etc, etc., not to mention putting them at 6-0.

I like aTm, I think they are pulling it together and it scares me. Oklahoma State is pretty banged up in the secondary, although it looks like Jamie Thompson (sprained MCL vs. CU) will play, as he practiced today. Darrent Williams will be out and his punt return skills (one of the best in the country) will be missed, it won't be that much as Prentice Elliot (freshman) has shown insane ability IF, IF he catches the ball. Darrent is severely missed in the secondary. He is a great, physical cover corner and his replacement, while he's the fastest player on the team and maybe in the big 12, is only 5'7" and it really puts us at a disadvantage.

Despite what the average fan thinks, I am worried about Donovan Woods and his short/intermediate passing ability. The average fan says what the coaches say, "he's done everything we've asked of him".

Well, he has, however they don't ask him to throw it over the middle, or anywhere less than 10 yards, unless it is behind the line of scrimmage, and he hasn't shown to be too adept to that.

Both times he's thrown it over the middle resulted in the two INT's he's thrown. (Not counting deep routes).

The X FACTOR is OSU's ground game.

Can the Cowboys get it done on the ground? If they can, they will cover and win big. If they can't, and they are put into third and long, it will be a LONG, LONG day.

I'm betting on the Cowboys most likely, but am still iffy on this. I really feel like the ground game will be able to control the tempo. OSU WILL try and get aggressive early and that is what scares me. Unsuccessful first down passing attempts mean that osu is in deep doo doo.

OSU's defensive line is really coming around. Freshman Nate Peterson (enrolled at semester after graduating early) is really tearing it up.

I'm rambling a bit here and hitting all around but just trying to share all the helpful info I can think of...

Brad Girtman, who was looked at as the KEY player in this years D LINE success will be OUT, STILL, for an "ankle" injury...AHEM...he's only played one half this year, the first vs. ucla.

I would think the crowd will have an effect, and if osu can stay away from 3rd and long, I think you're looking at a 3 td victory. If they have trouble on the early downs, it will be a very good game.

No way I'd bet aTm here, EVER, but I'm not totally sold yet on my Cowboys yet either...
 

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Good points Shortbus. I'll be in the stands Saturday as I always am. I like Okla St. by at least 7. I hope the line keeps dropping.


The line steamed down last week from -7 to -3 1/2 and I cashed EASY. I'm keeping an eye on the number.
 

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I think that there is something to be noted here.

In Passing it is 231.8 to 122.4 with A&M leading. The only real success that anyone has had vs my aggies was in the air. We shut down the KState rush attack and only got beat in the air once this year. OSU has no air attack. All their yards come from rushing. So, this should point to a closer game than 7.

Of course OSU lead rushing 285.2 to 197.8, but the Wrecking Crew will adjust this. Take away the Utah game and A&M leads PA category and gets closer to PF. My heart says the Aggies will win, my handicapping says they will be just fine at +7.

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This is a pretty much irrelevant note, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. Oklahoma State Coaches spent a couple of weeks in Utah this summer mainly with the OC.
 

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I'm taking Ok. ST in a teaser. They should at least hold home court by at least a FG.
 

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I'm playing OSU now as it's at 7. Would be nice if it would drop another half.
 

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Shortbus..

Take your team this weekend. OSU is on a roll and they are a solid team. Much more solid than aTm. You are just nervous about your team because you know everything about them which is good, but it makes you apprehensive.

I know the feeling because I'm an LSU fan and read up on them everyday.
 

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Thanks guys for all the comments.
I was able to grab Miami in the 2nd half last night -6.5, and reversed it with Ok State, which was the lovely number of 7. Worst case scenario, if I don't like what I see out of OSU in the 1st half, I can always hedge. Whoever said that playing 1st and 2nd halves is a secret for success was right. The second half of the game wasn't even close. For Miami to not have covered that half, you are saying that they will lose by at least 11 at home? Please. This is still Miami. My buddy had Miami -1.5 3rd Q over at Pinnacle. These are the smart plays versus laying a bad number of 8.5 to 9 for the game.
 

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I'm a big OU fan and living in Oklahoma so I'm pretty familiar with Osu too. So far OSU has shown no weaknesses. They may have the best offensive line in the Big 12. That includes OU. The only question mark I have is how well their freshman QB is going to perform when A&M puts 8 men in the box and makes him go to the air against some athletic and much improved defensive backs. Keep in mind also that A&M has shut down the run very well this season, having already held Kansas States Darren Sproles to just 60 yards. And don't forget Reggie Mcneil, the talented A&M QB who can both run and pass real well. I'm curious to see how well OSU performs when they start getting to the meat of their schedule this Saturday. My gut feeling is OSU will probably cover at 61/2. But if the line gets to over 7 I would lay off the game. Two scores is asking alot with teams this good with a tie for the Big 12 lead on the line. The game should be a dandy.
 

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the aggies are 4-1 ats the spread as well, they have no defense, they let kstate march up and down the field. I hate both of these teams but the Cowboys are stronger, ist under a td at home in the big 12, that means jump on it
 

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