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Times have really changed in the past couple of years in my love/hate for the Buckeyes. From 1985-2000 Michigan dominated, going 12-3-1. During this period, I hated the Buckeyes, when realistically, I should have loved them. The annual November meeting usually ended in happiness for Wolverine fans. As I have been reminded over and over, since 2000, the Buckeyes have won 7 of the past 8. But, I have grown to respect and I even pull for the Buckeyes every game except the last one. Since moving to the south, the Big Ten is to the SEC as the Big Ten thinks of the MAC. So I tend to pull for the ‘Luckeyes’ more and more, hoping they can go 11-1 every year. Here is my Ohio St preview:

September 5 – Navy
This is a challenging game for an opener. A game that the Buckeyes should win no doubt, but Navy is an annual bowl eligible team. Look for Michigan defect Justin Boren to dot the I and for the Buckeyes to feature true freshman running back Jaamal Berry. Navy may be good, but Ohio St is damn good and this shouldn’t be much of a game in the second half.
Final Score: Ohio St 30 Navy 6
1-0

September 12 – USC
USC WILL NOT LOSE THIS GAME. Write that down. This is my Ohio St lock of the year. I figure the Buckeyes might be favored by three or less, and I just don’t see the ‘Men of Troy’ losing this one. USC gets the best of the best on the recruiting trail year after year. I’m thinking that this is going to be a huge day for me after Michigan taking down ND and this battle of college football giants. I don’t think this will be as big of a blowout as last year’s game, but I don’t think USC will be challenged much in this one. Sorry Buckeyes fans….
Final Score: USC 27 Ohio St 17
1-1

September 19 – Toledo in Cleveland
So why are they playing this game in Cleveland? Is it to play in a professional stadium? There will be 60,000 Ohio St fans and 20,000 Toledo fans. Why not just play it in Columbus and save one of the teams from having to rent a bus. Jim Tressel will show the game film from last year when ‘that school up north’ was defeated by the Rockets on their home turf. This one will be ugly early and often.
Final Score: Ohio St 38 Toledo 0
2-1

September 26 – Illinois
The Fighting Illini are coming in to Columbus looking for revenge for last years thrashing put on them by the Buckeyes in Champaign. The final score read 30-20 but was very misleading as Illinois scored a late TD to make that final score. In a Big Ten opener featuring two Rose Bowl hopefuls, this should be a good one. If the Buckeyes can find a way to stop pre-season All Americam WR Arrelious Benn, they will get a win. Look for the sweater vest to sneak twelve or thirteen players on the field to shut him down and start out the Big Ten season on the good side.
Final Score: Ohio St 24 Illinois 20
3-1 (1-0)

October 3 @ Indiana
Indiana did have a good year a couple of seasons ago, went to a bowl game, and lost. Antwan Randle-El played there and he had some success with little team success. They had a running back that was very good in the late 80’s, Anthony Thompson. But none of this will intimidate the Buckeyes and this should be a very one-sided game. If you are a Buckeye fan, let your wife/significant other that you are free to go apple picking on October 3.
Final Score: Ohio St 41 Indiana 7
4-1 (2-0)

October 10 – Wisconsin
After their ‘bye week’ at Indiana last week, the Ohio St starters are ready for a challenge. The last time the Buckeyes slipped up against Wiskey was back in 2004 in the Horseshoe. The Buckeyes were an average team that year, finishing 8-4 and Wisconsin was much better. The same won’t happen this year. Ohio St is primed to make it to a very good bowl game again and lose to a team much superior to them.
Final Score: Ohio St 24 Wiskey 10
5-1 (3-0)

October 17 @ Purdue
Purdue will be fighting with Indiana to stay out of the cellar of the Big Ten. I think they are on a downward slope and going fast. The Buckeyes schedule is rather favorable, when two of their road games are at Purdue and Indiana. Look for The Ohio State University to go in and take care of business.
Final Score: Ohio St 34 Purdue 10
6-1 (4-0)

October 24 – Minnesota
Every year it seems that Ohio St comes out flat and puts a scare into their fan base. This will be that game. In recent years, team such as Marshall, Ohio and Miami (OH) have been able to come in to the ‘shoe and hang with the Buckeyes. Look for this game to be one of those games. Minnesota will be winning at the half, but OSU will not be having that. Take the Buckeyes in the 2nd half and be a winner.
Final Score: Ohio St 27 Minnesota 17
7-1 (5-0)

October 31 – New Mexico St
New Mexico St? I consider myself a huge college football fan and cannot ever remember NMSU being any good at football. I think of New Mexico St football probably like a USC fan thinks of Eastern Michigan football. Do they even have a team? Will they have enough money in their budget to bring the entire team, trainers and coaches? Happy Halloween Buckeye fans!
Final Score: Ohio St 48 New Mexico St 2
8-1 (5-0)

November 7 @ Penn St
With Michigan down for another season, this has replaced THE GAME, and has become THE GAME. There isn’t anything that looks much better than a white out at Penn St. You better believe a white out will be in place with a very small patch of scarlet in the upper corner of the stadium. Penn St fans have great hatred towards Terrelle Pryor. He is one of their own. He was supposed to stay home and play for the Nittany Lions. He didn’t and they will never forgive him. Look for Penn St to blitz Mr. Pryor from all angles and the Penn St offense does just enough to get the job done and the Rose Bowl bid.
Final Score: Penn St 17 Ohio St 10
8-2 (5-1)

November 14 – Iowa
Iowa will be very good this year as well, even without Shonn Greene. The Hawkeyes will go 8-4, play in the Outback Bowl and defeat an SEC team that has no business losing to Iowa. That is just how they work things. Why would anyone want to go to Iowa? Have you ever been to Iowa? What do you think of when you hear Iowa? I think of cold, cornfields and flat land. Anyways, for the game, Buckeyes win in a close one.
Final Score: Ohio St 24 Iowa 17
9-2 (6-1)

November 21 @ Michigan
The Wolverines are back to respectability and have a small, very small chance of pulling off the upset. Roll out the keg, put up the tent, roast the pig and hope for a Michigan victory leading to an Alamo Bowl invitation. As great as this all sounds, and as fun as it will be, the Buckeyes will win. Pretty soon the website that is out there announcing the number of days since Michigan has defeated Ohio St will be up to six digits in days.
Final Score: Ohio St 20 Michigan 13
10-2 (7-1)

Ohio St will go to the Sugar Bowl and get trounced by Oklahoma. Sam Bradford’s going out party. Great season Buckeyes, but ends on a sour note.
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Ok...here is my opportunity to play devils advocate...

Jamaal Berry will not be "featured" in any game this year...after his marijuana arrest last month he has a front row seat in Tress' doghouse...but an OSU win nonetheless...Navy will present a much tougher challenge then the 30-6 score you have noted...

I mightly disagree that OSU will be favored vs USC...the only way Ohio St is favored in this game is if USC loses to San Jose St the week before...USC will open at AT LEAST a 3pt favorite....USC wins the game...I agree...they simply just have too much...

The game vs Toledo is being played in Cleveland as a Toledo "home game" much like Ohio St did with Northwestern in 1992...They could play the game on Mars....it won't matter...

Ohio St beats Penn St this season....Penn St has too many question marks at the skilled positions (WR) and in their defensive backfield...the game is a 3:30pm kickoff due to Big 10 rules not allowing night games in November...I do agree with the 17-10 score...but Ohio St wins this time...

As for the Michigan game...yeah, Michigan will be improved...but could they be any worse then last year? I see more of a 30-13 score moreso then a 20-13 count...

I have Ohio St playing USC AGAIN in the Rose Bowl...and a repeat of last years Rose Bowl seems imminent...
 

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No arguments here. I appreciate the reply. I think the Buckeyes will be dang good again and Terrell Pryor can be the type of player that can lead them to wins in all of those big games.
I'm still not sure about USC being favored going into Columbus. If that is the case, there will probably be quite a bit of love on the Buckeyes in Vegas, but it shouldn't matter.
No Jamaal Berry? I think he is going to step in and be the Maurice Clarett like freshman (tough to match MC, but I feel he will have a huge role).
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No arguments here. I appreciate the reply. I think the Buckeyes will be dang good again and Terrell Pryor can be the type of player that can lead them to wins in all of those big games.
I'm still not sure about USC being favored going into Columbus. If that is the case, there will probably be quite a bit of love on the Buckeyes in Vegas, but it shouldn't matter.
No Jamaal Berry? I think he is going to step in and be the Maurice Clarett like freshman (tough to match MC, but I feel he will have a huge role).
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Do you really think Berry has that type of talent? CLarett is what he is...but he was a stud we he wasn't a criminal....and could have very easily won won a heisman had he played 3 years....very interesting...
 

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I thng that 10-2 is quite possible. A loss to USC at home could happen, though I am not as sure as some in here, but a loss to Penn State probably will happen, especially if Penn State is undefeated. JoePa wants revenge for the way he ended last year, and his being blown out of the Rose Bowl.
 

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I agree OSU should be very good this year, and stick another loss on Michigans record. They are clearly the best team money can buy in the Big Ten. One day, when God gets around to it, he will burn that campus down to the ground, and eternally punish anyone who ever rooted for these dirty heathen bastards. They are all ugly, thier mama's dress them funny, and their fight song has homosexual under-tones in it. You may beat us this year, but your day is comin!!!
This was written in good nature, I didn't get personal. Come on, you didn't think you were going to have an Ohio State thread without a Wolverine sticking his two cents in did you? If you did, you are dumber than you think I think you are!!!
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I see Ohio State losing 3 games, USC, Penn St, and one other conference game and the margins of their victories will be less than expected. Like so many other teams that play the soft OOC games (except for USC) their schedule may make them appear better than they really are because it sets up as a 9-3, 10-2 kind of schedule and does not necessarily relate to their true overall strength as a team. LY they were 10-3 (with the bowl) and I would not be surprised to see them lose 3 or 4 during the regular season. USC will be favored against them and losing to USC will cause them problems again and probably expose their weaknesses. Offensively they lost a bunch, and if you can contain Pryor you can keep the Buckeyes close and I see them playing a lot of close games this season. I think their defense is still top notch. Navy will play them closer than they will like as they have to be looking ahead to USC. Navy is very capable defensively and technically sound. I fully respect Tressel but I don't think he has as much firepower as he would like. Pryor is a great athlete playing QB (like Griffin at Baylor) and those guys cannot do it all by themselves. I have repeated this many times but Ohio State returns players who only scored 8.6ppg last year. They have a ways to go.
 

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I see Ohio State losing 3 games, USC, Penn St, and one other conference game and the margins of their victories will be less than expected. Like so many other teams that play the soft OOC games (except for USC) their schedule may make them appear better than they really are because it sets up as a 9-3, 10-2 kind of schedule and does not necessarily relate to their true overall strength as a team. LY they were 10-3 (with the bowl) and I would not be surprised to see them lose 3 or 4 during the regular season. USC will be favored against them and losing to USC will cause them problems again and probably expose their weaknesses. Offensively they lost a bunch, and if you can contain Pryor you can keep the Buckeyes close and I see them playing a lot of close games this season. I think their defense is still top notch. Navy will play them closer than they will like as they have to be looking ahead to USC. Navy is very capable defensively and technically sound. I fully respect Tressel but I don't think he has as much firepower as he would like. Pryor is a great athlete playing QB (like Griffin at Baylor) and those guys cannot do it all by themselves. I have repeated this many times but Ohio State returns players who only scored 8.6ppg last year. They have a ways to go.


So which is it? Are they gonna lose 3 games...or are they gonna lose 3-4 games? I'll give you that they could lose to Penn St and USC....but they won't lose both IMO. Secondly, who else is going to beat them? Ohio St hasn't lost to a non-BCS bowl team since 2004. That is over 50+ games....the next closest team has gone maybe 15 games with the same distinction...

I agree that Navy maybe tougher then people expect. Keep in mind that Pryor may be bigger then anyone Navy trots out on the defensive side of the ball...

As for their OOC schedule being weak, I beg to differ there as well...is it Miami FLA's schedule? Hell no...their OOC sched is ridiculous. But How many teams don't play 1-AA schools? Ohio St doesn't. Granted Toledo and New Mexico St are both garbage, however (like the excuse of most schools) when they scheduled this game, Toledo was competing for the MAC title year in and year out...New Mexico St is a fill-in game...we all know about USC.

Minnesota isn't going to beat them
Neither is Purdue or Indiana
N'Western and Michigan St sure aren't (not on sched)
Iowa? Not in Columbus
Wisconsin? See Iowa
Illinois...interesting...but no. Ohio St remembers last time the Illini came to C-bus.
Michigan? See me in 2011

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The best of the Futures season again this year is OSU over 9.5 wins.

In 2007, the had OSU over 9.

Let's get the easy stuff out of the way.

They can lose to USC and PSU.

Now, looking at the rest of the road schedule, they play the following:

Toledo at Cleveland
at Michigan
at Indiana
at Purdue
at PSU.

Removing PSU from the equation, which team are they going to lose to on the road?

Looking at their home games,

Navy,
USC
Illinois
Wisky
Minnesota
Iowa
New Mexico State.

Navy, NMSU are W's

Wisky, Minny, should be decent wins as well. So, that leaves Iowa and Illinois. What gives you any reason to believe that OSU will lose to either of these teams at home.

They have the best athlete playing qb in the conference. Defensively they will be weaker than the poster who said they will lose 3 or 4 games. Offensively, they will be better than most think, because of Pryor.

If OSU beats USC, look for the nation to be in a uproar as OSU should get to the title game. I believe if they beat USC, they beat PSU. Has nothing to do with talent and coaching, but simply has to do with confidence. While the argument is that OSU can't play with SEC teams and USC. Ohio State has still managed to have the most players drafted and the most 1st round picks over the past years (Since Tress arrived).

Another thing to look at is OSU's losses in the past 4 years.

2005- #2, #3 USC, PSU
2006- #1 Florida
2007- #20 Illinois and #1 LSU
2008- #4 USC, #13 PSU and # 3 Texas.

OSU is not likely to lose to a lesser team.

OSU should finish the season with the following record imo.
10-2 or 12-0. Regular season only.
 

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It appears some on here take offense about my assessment of Ohio ST. You have to realize that I have great respect for Jim Tressel and I am speaking from the pocket book not from the heart. Way back in January I ran a breakdown on all 120 teams and among other things I checked was the R.O.P (returning offensive points from 2008-9). I was shocked to see that Ohio St returned players who only scored 8.6ppg ly. There are six teams in the Big 10 that ranked highter with Penn St the highest at 16.6ppg. That is one reason I like Penn St to take the Big 10 this year.
Ohio St returns 5 on offense (Pryor included) but they lose Wells (and his 8 TD's) and receivers Robiskie and Hartline (and their 1014 yds and 12 TD's). In Tressel's own words "We're young, even our returning starters are young". Defensively the Buckeyes are in good shape and among other things they were sixth in scoring defense and turnover margin. However, I think that the teams behind Penn St and Ohio St are some teams who have improved and will have their day. I think dismisssing the fact that on a given day Ohio State can lose to an Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, or Michigan is a bit premature. We are talking about a team who beat Ohio 26-14 and Troy 28-10 LY and who has lost considerable fire power offensively.
Where is USC supposedly the weakest, defense. Where is Ohio St the weakest, offense. They are not even in a position to take advantage of a USC defense that has to prove itself. LY Ohio St averaged 28ppg (45th) and they have some big holes to fill. Ohio St was 6th in TO's LY and that quite often is hard to match year after year. Until Ohio State's offense can get up to last years numbers they are in fact vulnerable and it would not necessarily take a "perfect game" for Illinois (who Ohio St beat by 10 LY) or Wisconsin (who Ohio St beat by 3 LY) much less a Michigan team at home in the season finale to step up on given day. I know some of you do not want to acknowledge those as possibilities but stranger things have happened. If Ohio St does get the offensive numbers up then those possibilities go down.
In the end will this years edition be better than last years addition? I don't think so although Pryor is going to be a lot of fun to watch this year.
Nothing against Ohio St, just a bit of a reality check and speculation abounds at this time of the year.
 

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It appears some on here take offense about my assessment of Ohio ST. You have to realize that I have great respect for Jim Tressel and I am speaking from the pocket book not from the heart.


I have no idea where you getting this is from the heart. You really think Indiana has a shot a beating OSU. If there is anything you should have learned from OSU under Jim Tressel is that he doesn't lose to inferior teams. OSU has lost 8 games in the past 4 years. 6 of those teams were ranked in FINAL RANKINGS In the TOP 4.

#1 Texas 2005
#1 Florida 2006
#1 LSU 2007
#3 Penn State 2005
#3 Texas 2008
#4 USC 2008

They lost the other 2 games to PSU and Illinois. Can you please explain how all of a sudden they are going to start losing to lesser opponents. Wisconsin, a team that has gradually gone down under BB.

Please explain which team is going to come into the Horseshoe and win.
 

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BTD, I can sum it up for you this way....NONE of those teams are going to come into the horseshoe and win...plain and simple...this isn't the NFL where on "any given Sunday" a team can win...

Indiana has no chance. Sure Wisconsin has a chance, but a slim one. Purdue, zero chance. Illinois has the talent to compete, no question. But competing doesn't necessarily equate to winning. Iowa will take a step back. I think they may give Ohio St a game. But they won't win.

I understand Ohio St is young. I get that. They are much better off on offense then people think. Boom Herron is going to split time at RB with Brandon Saine. Herron has experience and has produced when given the chance (Long TD runs vs Michigan and Texas). Saine has battled injuries but is now finally healthy. He is big and fast and may ultimately take carries away from Herron.

Don't be misguided by what OSU returns offensively. Ray Small (WR) has plenty of experience and has produced solid numbers when he isn't in Tress' doghouse...I consider Justin Boren a returning starter after being all-big ten when he played at UM. Brewster started at Center as a TRUE freshman...he was one of the top OL recruits in the nation. He hasn't failed to dissappoint. Browning moves in from RT to play RG. He will be better at G, then at T. And Cordle who started at LG moves out to RT. He has started for 3 years also. The o-line will be better. Losing stiffs like Boone, Rehring and Person is a blessing.

Defensively they COULD have one of the best D-lines in the nation. I have my reservations, however a lot of preseason publications are touting the D-line as one of the top 10 d-line units in the nation. At LB, they are loaded as usual. They will just plug in the next AJ Hawk, Bobby Carpenter, Lauranitis and Freeman.

They return both safties and one of their 2 starting corners from last season who is every bit as good as Jenkins.

BTD is 100% correct about them not losng to a lesser team...I think they lose to USC and win at Penn St...just my opinion...and go on to the Rose Bowl hopefully not against USC.
 

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It appears some on here take offense about my assessment of Ohio ST. You have to realize that I have great respect for Jim Tressel and I am speaking from the pocket book not from the heart.


I have no idea where you getting this is from the heart. You really think Indiana has a shot a beating OSU. If there is anything you should have learned from OSU under Jim Tressel is that he doesn't lose to inferior teams. OSU has lost 8 games in the past 4 years. 6 of those teams were ranked in FINAL RANKINGS In the TOP 4.

#1 Texas 2005
#1 Florida 2006
#1 LSU 2007
#3 Penn State 2005
#3 Texas 2008
#4 USC 2008

They lost the other 2 games to PSU and Illinois. Can you please explain how all of a sudden they are going to start losing to lesser opponents. Wisconsin, a team that has gradually gone down under BB.

Please explain which team is going to come into the Horseshoe and win.

That should have been Illinois (mistyped) but any team who shows up at the Horseshoe has a chance, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa could win. My point is that this may not be one of Tressel's better teams. The fact remains that they could lose to USC and Illinois and be 2-2 coming out of Sept. The truth of the matter is that none of this puts money in yours or my pockets. All I am concerned with is ATS success and I think Ohio State will struggle in that department until they prove they can score points. If you cannot at least admit that this years addition, even with Terrelle Pryor, may not be up to Tressel's usual standards then we just disagree, plain and simple. It is the lack of strength in their schedule that will get them to 10-2 or whatever because they have guaranteed wins against Navy, Toledo and New Mexico St. Not trying to put a burr under your saddle but I do view this years Ohio State team in a different light than you. Not worth a lot of time or effort from either one of us.
 

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Well Russ...if you think Minnesota "could win" when they play at the Horseshoe...then good luck to ya....cuz your gonna need it.
 

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Well Russ...if you think Minnesota "could win" when they play at the Horseshoe...then good luck to ya....cuz your gonna need it.

They could, I didn't say they would. You seem to think that there is no possibility of that happening. Minnesota could win ATS very easily and that is what is more important to me than an out right victory. I am just a little amused that you dismiss all possibities of TOSU losing at home.....period.
 

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Russ,

I'm not trying to change your mind on OSU but here's my 2 cents for what it's worth:

I think when looking at ohio st. this season there's more to it than just numbers. Believe it or not, they may have better WR's this season than last, especially since TP will actually be able to run an offense. Last year the OC had him looking at his first read and if nothing was there than he ran. He didn't even look for the 2nd and 3rd reads because he was so inexperienced. Remember, he didn't get on campus in the spring last year so he was neon green. Beanie was out of the line-up so much they learned how to play without him. The O-line had majors hurdles until mid-season. The fact that OSU did well last season was a big accomplishment to Tressel and the defense because your never on a level playing field with a freshman QB that can't throw. I think the fact that TP is back, has improved a lot throwing the ball, and knows the offense, as well as a much better looking O-line will make them much imporoved on that side of the ball.

This years OSU team will put up more points and look totally different in terms of offense.

Lastly, I agree with you that some teams in the Big 10 will get better like Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin but I don't see them loosing more or less than one game in the conference.
 

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Russ,

I'm not trying to change your mind on OSU but here's my 2 cents for what it's worth:

I think when looking at ohio st. this season there's more to it than just numbers. Believe it or not, they may have better WR's this season than last, especially since TP will actually be able to run an offense. Last year the OC had him looking at his first read and if nothing was there than he ran. He didn't even look for the 2nd and 3rd reads because he was so inexperienced. Remember, he didn't get on campus in the spring last year so he was neon green. Beanie was out of the line-up so much they learned how to play without him. The O-line had majors hurdles until mid-season. The fact that OSU did well last season was a big accomplishment to Tressel and the defense because your never on a level playing field with a freshman QB that can't throw. I think the fact that TP is back, has improved a lot throwing the ball, and knows the offense, as well as a much better looking O-line will make them much imporoved on that side of the ball.

This years OSU team will put up more points and look totally different in terms of offense.

Lastly, I agree with you that some teams in the Big 10 will get better like Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin but I don't see them loosing more or less than one game in the conference.

That was definitely worth more than 2 cents and you make a good point that the offense could in fact improve. But they averaged 28 ppg ly and only scored 3 against USC, 16 against Purdue, and 6 against Penn St. They did score 21 against a distracted Texas team in the bowl but I think they will have to exceed LY's offensive output not just match it. They also faced some offenses LY that will improve this year, Minn, Illinois, and Michigan. They must step up offensively when it counts to get to 10-2. They rate 84th on Steele's experience charts and have only 62 returning starts on offense this year. If the offense does not find a productive identity they could stumble and do the unthinkable.
 

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Actually what I am getting at comes from experience. As an Oklahoma fan no one could have convinced me that there was any conceivable way that TCU could come to Norman, Oklahoma and lay it to the Sooners. And sure enough in 2005 TCU came to Norman and won 17-10. It happend sure as shit. The lesson here is don't count your victories until they are in the bag because shit happens. It is natural to be optimistic especially concerning your home team but a reality check can be right around the corner. Ask Florida about Mississippi, the list goes on and on.
 

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Russ,

I don't know how long you have been at this, but my point is that OSU is a great over bet for the season. It is hard to gauge at this time if they will cover spreads or not.

If you were suprised by OU losing to TCU, than you weren't that familiar with Paul Thompson and the fact that TCU gave Nebraska everything they could handle in 2001 in Lincoln. The Frogs were a 28 point Dog that day and lost 20-7. Patterson has always done well defensively.

Ole Miss was Top 15 team last year. They ass-raped TTU, who barely beat Texas. You are comparing apples to Oranges.

Jim Tressel has lost more 3 Regular season games twice in 8 years at OSU. No reason to think a team that has good talent should have any problems dominating a weak Big 10 this year.

I don't know how closely you follow the Big 10, but OSU is really only going to have 4 tough games, 3 of those are at home. Only reason I am saying tough is because Iowa and Illinois have enough players to win the games, but really don't have the overall talent of OSU.

I am sorry, but I don't think you are looking at the big picture and the type of athlete Pryor is at QB. He is going to be able to make things happen that Boeckman could not the past 2 years.
 

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