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Would you still play/deposit at EZ Street?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 27.8%
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    Votes: 24 66.7%
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C'mon Doug.........


I'm just going to Throw out a number here... let's use 25 as that number

In the past 2+ years as a Mod here for me.... I've only seen 2 Times.... Yes 2 Times where the Player didn't get Paid....and it wasn't because Wil sided with the Book. It was something where the Book wouldn't Budge !

Wil has even work on Disputes that were Never even a Sponsor here at the RX
or maybe they were Years....... ago

So IMO Doug's Statement is very unfair
 
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Wow, that didn't take long for you WVU

I just read it down the road and I refreshed the page and here it is.
 

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I thought I read he was from Florida

As interested as you are in this case, coupled with the fact that both you and Cory are from Florida, are you not concerned that more than a few people might believe that Cory is working for you in some capacity?

Stating this because you openly have admitted to have had teams working for you in the past in brick and morger casinos, so I'm sure the online gaming world would be no different.............after all, this was a very nice overlay that EZ was offerring with the bonus coupled with a close to 100% payback VP machine.

By the way, not implying that you have done such here or anywhere else, or even if you did, implying you did anything wrong............ having said that..............

Consider the following example..........


say I personally take advantage of a casino bonus at online sportsbook XXX and pick up a few bucks simply because it was indeed an overlay. Now, knowing its a good play, would it be UNethical for me to go to JOE BLOW at my local watering hole and give him $4,000 and have him open an account under his name and have him attack the same promo under his legal signup, telling him that we will split the profits..................IS THIS UNETHICAL???
 

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Originally Posted by EZMARVIN
I did not want to post until the statement from EZ Street was released, however I want to help cory1111 with some facts since he has a hard time telling the truth. You never sent $10,000 as you continuously claim you have, your deposits came to a total of $2730 as shown below:

Account Date Method Cash Bonus

PA1032 Nov-30-2010 CASH BONUS 0 100
PA1032 Jan-15-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-01-2011 ** 200 200
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 ** 215 0
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 CASH BONUS 0 215
PA1032 Feb-09-2011 ** 215 215
PA1032 Feb-10-2011 ** 300 300
PA1032 Feb-11-2011 ** 350 350
PA1032 Feb-26-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 230 230
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 225 225
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 220 220
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 275 275

2,730 2830

The $461 entered in your account on Jan-9-2011 and played, will not show here since that was a transaction YOU CANCELLED, which we gave you as an adjustment. I hope this helps you a bit cory1111. SBR is free to confirm this information requesting his unedited account history or visiting us to make sure this information is accurate, since our offices are 5 minutes apart. Sorry about posting this before the resolution statement, it will be posted later today after the Legal Dept. reviews Justin's suggestions.




So far this seems to be the only real evidence that has come to public light. The guy seems to be bonus hustling, but with small deposits. I certainly would not use a bot for this, especially at $25 hands. I would have played for quarters if anything ($1.25/spin).
 

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I'm just going to Throw out a number here... let's use 25 as that number

In the past 2+ years as a Mod here for me.... I've only seen 2 Times.... Yes 2 Times where the Player didn't get Paid....and it wasn't because Wil sided with the Book. It was something where the Book wouldn't Budge !

Wil has even work on Disputes that were Never even a Sponsor here at the RX
or maybe they were Years....... ago

So IMO Doug's Statement is very unfair



.......I could go on and on and on with how TheRX and/or Wilheim have have handled disputes in a favorable matter for the player.

Disputes are handled in a very fair manner here.......not 100% to the liking of everyone involved, but without question in a very fair manner with no bias............and I've seen this FIRSTHAND numerous, numerous times, having been involved with disputes for others, as well as my own personal disputes with online operations, some that were advertisers at TheRx at the time, and others that were not.
 

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As interested as you are in this case, coupled with the fact that both you and Cory are from Florida, are you not concerned that more than a few people might believe that Cory is working for you in some capacity?


Well, I don't know if this is even relevant as I am not the mediator in this case nor am I the player in question. If the guy was working with/for me then what is the crime there? If the bets were placed from his computer and on his account then any arrangement he might have with someone else on the funding of that account is irrelevant.
 

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Well, I don't know if this is even relevant as I am not the mediator in this case nor am I the player in question. If the guy was working with/for me then what is the crime there? If the bets were placed from his computer and on his account then any arrangement he might have with someone else on the funding of that account is irrelevant.


That was the QUESTION/EXAMPLE I posed in the last segment of my last post................

So your vote on my example is that it is absolutely NOT unethical, correct??
 

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Consider the following example..........


say I personally take advantage of a casino bonus at online sportsbook XXX and pick up a few bucks simply because it was indeed an overlay. Now, knowing its a good play, would it be UNethical for me to go to JOE BLOW at my local watering hole and give him $4,000 and have him open an account under his name and have him attack the same promo under his legal signup, telling him that we will split the profits..................IS THIS UNETHICAL???


From my understanding there was no limit on the amount of bonuses he would get on his deposits. He was getting 100% on each one. There is really no need for multiple accounts since he could just keep depositing until the cow comes home.
 

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That was the QUESTION/EXAMPLE I posed in the last segment of my last post................

So your vote on my example is that it is absolutely NOT unethical, correct??


I refuse to discuss ethics when it comes to gambling. There is nothing ethical about gambling from either side.
 

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Regarding poster Cory1111 and his play in the Easystreetsports.com Casino.

For the record Doug hasn't a clue as to the real truth here to begin with. I will address this issue now to some degree and disclose some very pertinent information while still maintaining the player involved Cory1111's personal information protected, he will only be addressed player Cory1111.

What I will tell you is the offer that was made to him yesterday that he refused and some pertinent information regarding his background and some of the claims he has made.

Today is my day off as was yesterday so I am going to table this matter until tomorrow for any discussion when I am officially back at work.

All I will say I spent most of yesterday trying to make it as easy as possible for Cory1111 to prove he never used "AI" (artificial intelligence) or any other means in violation of clearly posted Easystreet rules.

Briefly so you will have the facts that are true: his total deposits at Easystreet were nowhere near $10,000 but less than $3,000 broken down into nearly a dozen small deposits of around $250 each over a six week period - all small Money Grams and WU deposits. I have a complete list of each deposit including one WU that was sent in a way that it was noncollectable by Easystreet. In fact it was the largest one he sent for $461 that he received credit for and used those credits before Easystreet management found out the transfer bounced back to Cory1111.

Upon investigation we discovered he is connected directly to 34 different accounts all closed for fraudulent activity spread among 21 offshore books. There are possibly more but our investigation felt these were sufficient to show what type of player Cory1111 is. Many of you complain about the amount of documentation that books require now when you ask for withdrawals. Players like Cory1111 are part of why that is necessary.

Despite all this Easystreet with The Rx.com assistance made this offer to Cory1111 which he refused. He began the day asking if I was still going to assist him

Offer made yesterday to Cory1111 that he refused to accept:
Hello Cory, I am writing you now to assure you that you will be completely safe here in Costa Rica, especially if SBR is going to supply some security. I can 100% guarantee that Easystreet has absolutely no ulterior motive to have you come down to Costa Rica except to give you the opportunity to prove you actually played the sessions in which you hit your Royals at the offices of DGS in front of them and any witnesses you bring.

Naturally they do not expect you to hit any Royals as that would be unreasonable. All they are interested in is a demonstration of the speed and perfect strategy you demonstrated during your on-line play at Easystreet when you hit the Royals.

First you will need to take a polygraph conducted by an accredited professional polygraph purveyor. The polygraph will only address your play at Easystreet during the session in which you hit your Royals, no questions about your past will be used against as far as this polygraph goes, Easystreet simply wants to get at the truth and nothing else whatever it is. I am sure they actually hope you pass so they can in good conscience pay you.

No one is out to incriminate you in anyway, I imagine some sort of legal agreement can be furnished to that effect. The only thing that matters is you demonstrating your claim that you can play DGS' 5 card draw video poker game with the speed and acumen displayed during the on-line sessions in which you hit your 3 Royals at the Easystreet Casino.

Should you pass the the polygraph then an appointment will be set up shortly after (maybe the next day) to proceed to the offices of DGS for the video poker demonstration. You will be asked to come relatively close to the approximately 18 hands of perfect strategy on a 5 card draw video poker game per minute for a little more than five hours. The game will be identical to the one you played on when you won the Royals. You can have representatives from SBR or elsewhere accompany you during the entire process. At no time will you be asked to be alone with anyone you feel uncomfortable with. During the polygraph I imagine spectators will be asked to watch from an adjoining room. Should you fail the polygraph there will be no need to take the DGS test.

Should you pass both tests you will immediately be paid your entire balance and be allowed to either fly back to the US or remain in Costa Rica and actually visit Easystreet and probably SBR should you care to.

Regarding your expenses for the trip. The Rx.com has agreed to accept all funds necessary for your trip and guarantee you are paid them win or lose. I am talking air fare, highly rated hotel facilities and $100 a day while the testing takes place as per diem. These funds will be 100% guaranteed by TheRx.com should you choose to accept this offer..

I personally will post the results on The Rx.com at your request and Easystreet guarantees payment of the $46,000 should you demonstrate to them that you can do what you claim to have done without the help of any AI or Artificial Intelligence software, including Bots that play in place of a live person in their presence.

They will of course allow you ample time to get used to the machine at DGS you will be playing on..In fact everything possible will be done to guarantee these tests are as stress free as possible for you..I assume SBR is willing to offer you some security but if not Easystreet will make sure you are picked up at the airport and driven to your hotel which will be a complete secret that only you will know the name of. They will also pick you up for all appointments and take you back after to a destination of your choice, unless you make your own arrangements for those services..

I have lived here since the early 90s and never once have had any problems with my personal safety. I am sure the staff at SBR will be able to tell you if there are any areas of San Jose to avoid if you go out on your own during your stay. I can't speak for them but have a sense that they will be willing to be part of this process and will report back on the treatment you are offered by Easystreet which I guarantee will be courteous and accommodating at all times.

Personally if it were me I would be down here promptly. I am 100% certain your identity and personal safety will be given the highest priority by everyone at Easystreet.com. and of course by The Rx.com as far as what is posted about you on our forum. Easystreet has given me their word on that and I will hold them to it..

I will also open a thread at The Rx..com exclusively for you and Easystreet to post about events as they happen. We will not allow anyone else other than yourselves and if you wish a representative from SBR to post in the thread during the time you are taking the tests. Your real name or any dates, times, places will all be kept 100% confidential by The Rx.com and hopefully by SBR for as long as your are in country. Plus your real name will never appear on the Rx.com as that is a forum rule, you will be known only as Cory1111 at all times.

The ball is now in your court, please advise either myself, or Easystreet of your decision no later than 5PM EDT on March 30th (next Wednesday) and arrangements can begin accordingly. Should you not respond by that date Easystreet will assume you are not interested in their offer.

Regards, Wilheim

Cory1111 later in the day on Wednesday declined the offer even after I made further concessions regarding him now not letting us know what hotel he would stay at (no problem) and completing everything in one day again no problem if he tells us the day. All of this of course became moot when Cory1111 declined the offer. Note my original email contained a typo where it says 5PM EDT - the 5 was a % which is the same key only a capitol on my keyboard. I later emailed Cory1111 with the correct time on March 30th.

I will be back on Friday and will probably post some more information if I think it is necessary. Contrary to popular belief Cory1111 is only on Post Review with a promise that none of his posts would be altered but if inappropriate emailed back to him so he can edit them himself.

Thanks, wilheim
 

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I refuse to discuss ethics when it comes to gambling. There is nothing ethical about gambling from either side.


That was an interesting reponse........

One that I would have to disagree with.
 

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Fish, this dispute isn't about ethics. It is about the shop's accusation of using a bot to play video poker and using that accusation to confiscate 46 grand from Cory
 

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Wilheim and others, a point on the VP play that was questioned..............


Playing the VP version of JACKS OR BETTER(one of the very easist strategies to learn/play), ...........a player(one that may not even be a seasoned VP pro)......can rattle off 700-1000 hands per hour for hours without making a single mistake..............for a seasoned pro, they could do this playing two machines at once.

Now if this were a DOUBLE BONUS VP machine and not JACKS or BETTER.............it would be impossible for anyone to play 800-1000 hands per hour PERFECTLY for any length of time over 2.5 hours.
 

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A polygraph, Wil? Are you serious? Why should this player have to prove his innocence? Shouldn't they have to prove his guilt? The idea of submitting a polygraph is laughable as is flying to CR and demonstarting his play.

I actually agree. And a polygraph won't hold up in court and people have passed/failed because of nerves.
 

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A polygraph, Wil? Are you serious? Why should this player have to prove his innocence? Shouldn't they have to prove his guilt? The idea of submitting a polygraph is laughable as is flying to CR and demonstarting his play.

I agree. I think I am done here and at EZ street.
 

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Wilheim and others, a point on the VP play that was questioned..............


Playing the VP version of JACKS OR BETTER(one of the very easist strategies to learn/play), ...........a player(one that may not even be a seasoned VP pro)......can rattle off 700-1000 hands per hour for hours without making a single mistake..............for a seasoned pro, they could do this playing two machines at once.

Now if this were a DOUBLE BONUS VP machine and not JACKS or BETTER.............it would be impossible for anyone to play 800-1000 hands per hour PERFECTLY for any length of time over 2.5 hours.


So then I am glad you agree that Easystreet has yet to prove anything about using a bot.
 

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OK, I see the 2 threads were merged. I would have rather had my thread separate from the year old thread that had nothing to do with this dispute but thats ok.
 

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