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From today's WSJ


By KARL ROVE

Polls are turning against President Barack Obama’s health-care plan. The political calendar is, too.
On Monday, the Washington Post/ABC poll reported that 49% of Americans approve of his handling of health care while 44% disapprove. What many people missed is that those who strongly disapprove of the president’s approach on health care now outnumber those who strongly approve by 33% to 25%. That presages further decline. Already, 49% of independents disapprove of the president’s approach, up from 30% in April, a staggering shift in 11 weeks.
Mr. Obama is also slipping on the economy. Those who strongly disapprove now outnumber those who strongly approve of his handling of the economy (35% to 29%), of deficits (38% to 19%), and of unemployment (31% to 26%). On Tuesday, Gallup showed Mr. Obama’s personal approval was 55%, down from more than 60% a few weeks ago and lower than the 56% George W. Bush had at this point in his first term.



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The polls are crumbling because of a flood of bad news about Mr. Obama’s health-care proposals. One batch of such news came from a July 17 study by the Lewin Group that was commissioned by the Heritage Foundation. It projects that if the House bill becomes law, 83.4 million people—nearly half of those with private coverage—will lose private insurance as employers drop their plans. Mr. Obama’s promise that you can keep your plan is being left on the cutting room floor with nary a peep from the president.

Another batch of bad news came this week as Democratic governors from Colorado, Tennessee, New Mexico and Washington joined GOP colleagues at the National Governors Association summer meeting to blast the administration for plans to shift millions of families into Medicaid. That could stick states with $440 billion in new costs over the next decade.
But the most damaging news came from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf, who said last week that the White House’s health-care proposals would not “reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.” This shattered the central claim Mr. Obama has been making: that his health-care plan controls costs. In a July 17 letter, Mr. Elmendorf added that the House’s health-care bill would result in a “net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion” over 10 years. That’s likely a low-ball estimate because it assumes that Congress will increase taxes by $583 billion over the next decade.
Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. Even Democrats don’t like that approach: 21 of 39 freshmen House Democrats penned a letter opposing the tax hike. Many are among the 66 Democrats from districts that either Mr. Bush or John McCain carried in recent presidential elections. Mr. Obama shrugged off the letter by saying that the surtax would only force some to pay “a little bit more.”
The Democratic National Committee is now running ads pressuring Democrats to vote for the president’s health-care plans, including new ads in the districts of House Ways and Means Committee Democrats who have raised questions about the health-care bill. It is hard to think of a more obvious sign of weakness than attacking members of your own party.
Team Obama was rushing to pass health care before the August recess out of fear that allowing members to go home for an extended spell before voting on the bill would give them an opportunity to hear from their constituents. They fear that the 300 protestors who showed up at a town hall meeting in Panama City, Fla. held June 30 by Democrat Rep. Allen Boyd shortly after he voted for the cap and trade energy tax) are only the start of a larger backlash.
Democratic leaders, including the president, are now backing away from a vote on health care before August. But that’s not likely to decrease voter angst. Americans for Prosperity and others are already organizing voters to attend public meetings with members of Congress this summer. My guess is that members of Congress are about to hear a lot from their voters on the government takeover of health care, new energy taxes, the failed stimulus, record deficits, and growing joblessness.
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Wow somebody pulled the stake outta Karl's heart.
Next we might hear that Obama is a lesbian, that's what he started against Ann Richards and Hillery Clinton.
 

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Congressional leaders have all but given up on passing health care reform before an August deadline, and Democrats in both chambers of Congress engaged in heated closed-door meetings Thursday as they struggled to find consensus on President Barack Obama’s top priority.


With tempers flaring in closed door meetings on both ends of the Capitol, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), conceded the obvious and said the Senate wouldn’t have a health care bill until this fall.
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This is Obama's Waterloo...now go for the "Kill shot"...politically speaking of course.

The rest of this one term presidency will hopefully collapse into impotence.

Obama is in way way way over his head.

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you know, the more i hear about this overhaul the less i like it.

1) guaranteeing that americans who like their current plan will have the option to keep it, but not if their employer chooses otherwise

2) federal funding of abortion

3) raising taxes on the wealthy to fund what more than half of the population of the uninsured decided wasn't important enough to pay for themselves

i am now officially against this healthcare plan. something needs to be done to help those less fortunate, but it should not be at the expense of others. give me a plan that will not

A) provide a single dime for abortions

B) will not cause a hardworking citizen to change plans if he doesn't want to

C) and will not tax a single person to pay for what someone could have paid for on their own -- but it just wasn't enough of a priority.
 

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Yeah all you guys started out with an open mind knowing the repercussions of not passing health reform, but after hearing from Rove you see the light.
 
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Yeah all you guys started out with an open mind knowing the repercussions of not passing health reform, but after hearing from Rove you see the light.


I say fuck Rove. Have you read the bill Punter? I haven't either. We don't really know what's in it. But hurry you libtards and jam it through just like the stimulus plan. Just close your fucking eyes and vote vote vote.

YES WE CAN!

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The bill is a work in progress. From all I hear it has some warts but working positively and working negatively will show who is selling out to the insurance industry.
 

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The bill is a work in progress. From all I hear it has some warts but working positively and working negatively will show who is selling out to the insurance industry.

good point. strong debate from both sides is a good thing.

"the sirens're screamin and the fires're howling way down in the valley tonight, there's a man in the shadows with a gun in his eye and a blade shinin oh so bright..."

bet not a single one of you fuckers know which song that's from.Soumi
 
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The bill is a work in progress. From all I hear it has some warts but working positively and working negatively will show who is selling out to the insurance industry.


Punter, you are a work in progress.

This health care scam is a dead mother fucking economic nightmare waiting to happen.
 

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good point. strong debate from both sides is a good thing.

"the sirens're screamin and the fires're howling way down in the valley tonight, there's a man in the shadows with a gun in his eye and a blade shinin oh so bright..."

bet not a single one of you fuckers know which song that's from.Soumi

Yawn...

Bat out of hell...Meatloaf.

I was a roadie for them...during the early Onion days.

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you know, the more i hear about this overhaul the less i like it.

Which is exactley why the Obamites want to ram it through before anybody can smell it.
The more this is looked at the more people will see it for what it is,a disaster.
 

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Yeah all you guys started out with an open mind knowing the repercussions of not passing health reform, but after hearing from Rove you see the light.

For a guy who claims and I quote “Medicare, however, is the best healh insurance I have ever had“, you do contradict yourself a lot or maybe you’re just being obstinate again. ##)
 

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For a guy who claims and I quote “Medicare, however, is the best healh insurance I have ever had“, you do contradict yourself a lot or maybe you’re just being obstinate again. ##)

I'm not concerned for my own health coverage you dimwit. I can go to the VA . I use medicare because it is more convenient.

My concern is for my country, There are so many anti American forces at work in the conservatism as a religion movement that it breeds fanatics.
 

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Obama is lost. Great speaker and very good at twisting words and stats but lost on healthcare and race.

Yeah I want my hard earned money going towards insuring illegal immigrants and people who can afford healthcare but choose not to pay for it. Good plan! In addition, he doesnt address the causes like the shark lawyers forcing physicians to order all these tests and the ridiculously complex payment system for Medicare/Medicaid which leads to unintentional fraud. Way to go Obama! Way to indentify the problem!

The jobs I definitely do not want is anything in healthcare. Nurses and doctors get paid squat for what they do analogous to teachers and fire fighters and police officers. Become a lawyer and go unchecked and financially rape people for 200-500 an hour. You take a dump or write a brief email and charge an hour. Lawyer is the way to go.
 

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"Senile" is first on the Obama list for end of life "counseling"...

Bye bye Punter...:howdy: :laugh:

Case in point: here we have an example of anti anti anti.

But if you check the pot the bastard most likely stiffed us on his anty.
 

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Obama is lost. Great speaker and very good at twisting words and stats but lost on healthcare and race.

Yeah I want my hard earned money going towards insuring illegal immigrants and people who can afford healthcare but choose not to pay for it. Good plan! In addition, he doesnt address the causes like the shark lawyers forcing physicians to order all these tests and the ridiculously complex payment system for Medicare/Medicaid which leads to unintentional fraud. Way to go Obama! Way to indentify the problem!

The jobs I definitely do not want is anything in healthcare. Nurses and doctors get paid squat for what they do analogous to teachers and fire fighters and police officers. Become a lawyer and go unchecked and financially rape people for 200-500 an hour. You take a dump or write a brief email and charge an hour. Lawyer is the way to go.

15 out of the top paying professions in the US are in the healthcare industry.

None of those 15 is nurse. (my 1st wife was an RN)
 

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