Obama Claimed Iran's Nuclear Program was "frozen" Shock: Obama Lied

[Acebb]

Forum Iranian bootlicker guesser hardest hit:

WASHINGTON — With only one month left before a deadline to complete a nuclear deal with Iran, international inspectors have reported that Tehran’s stockpile of nuclear fuel increased about 20 percent over the last 18 months of negotiations, partially undercutting the Obama administration’s contention that the Iranian program had been “frozen” during that period.

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See, when you're the New York Times and you have to report a fact showing Obama is a liar you go with "partially undermined"

Anyway, love the start of the next paragraph: "But Western officials and experts cannot quite figure out why."

Gee, if that doesn't inspire confidence that "Western Officials" aren't going to hog-tie Iran, nothing will!

 

[ScottL]

The lying liar knew he was lying before the words even came out.

 

[festeringZit]

Everything Obama touches is a clusterfuck.

 

[ScottL]

State Department: We're All 'Totally Perplexed' by New York Times Story on Iran's Increased Nuclear Stockpile - Andrew Kugle

State Department spokesperson Marie Harf said U.S. officials were "totally perplexed" by a New York Times story Tuesday on Iran's 20 percent increase in nuclear fuel over the past 18 months. Would the increased stockpiles complicate the current negotiations?

"Not at all. Our team read that story this morning and was quite frankly perplexed because the main contentions of it are totally inaccurate," Harf said. "The notion in the story that western officials or U.S. officials involved were unaware of this issue or not understanding of what this entails is just absurd," Harf said. "Under the JPOA (Joint Plan of Action), Iran can fluctuate its numbers in terms of their stockpile. They can go up and down as long as at the end of fixed date they are back down below a number."

The Institute for Science and International Security analyzed the question of whether Iran could meet its obligations regarding five percent low enriched uranium, and authors David Albright and Serene Kelleher-Vergantini assessed that "Iran has fallen behind in its pledge to convert its newly produced LEU hexafluoride into oxide form. There are legitimate questions about whether Iran can produce all the requisite LEU oxide." (Washington Free Beacon)

 

[ScottL]

Five Musts For A Deal With Iran

1. INSPECTIONS AND VERIFICATION
Inspectors must be permitted unimpeded access to suspect sites.
A good deal must support “anytime, anywhere” inspections – including all military facilities – to
verify Iranian compliance. Iran’s decades-long history of cheating on international obligations
suggests it will secretly attempt to continue its nuclear weapons program. Iran cannot be permitted
any safe havens where it could pursue this ambition.

2. POSSIBLE MILITARY DIMENSIONS
Iran must fully explain its prior weaponization efforts.
A good deal must require Iran to come clean on all of its prior nuclear work, such as developing
triggers for a nuclear weapon, as required by six United Nations Security Council resolutions.
The entire scope of Iran’s nuclear activities must be known to establish a baseline against which to
measure future actions. Iran must also be made to comply with prior commitments;
allowing Iran to shirk them will only tempt it to defy commitments made under a new deal.

3. SANCTIONS
Sanctions relief must commence only after Iran complies with its commitments.
A good deal must lift sanctions gradually as Iran meets its obligations under the agreement.
Further, any deal should specify clear and immediate consequences for Iranian violations. The
international community must retain significant leverage while Iran demonstrates compliance; it
must not provide immediate sanctions relief or unfreeze a significant portion of Tehran’s assets so
Iran can “take the money and run.”

4. DURATION
Iran’s nuclear weapons quest must be blocked for decades.
A good deal must prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear threshold state. The announced framework
would lift nuclear restrictions in 10 to 15 years and grant Iran virtually instant breakout time after
12 or 13 years. A deal must restrict Iran’s nuclear capabilities until it demonstrates conclusively, over
time, that it no longer seeks a nuclear weapons capability.

5. DISMANTLEMENT
Iran must dismantle its nuclear infrastructure so it has no path to a nuclear weapon.
A good deal must require Iran to dismantle its nuclear infrastructure and relinquish its uranium
stockpile such that it has neither a uranium nor plutonium pathway to nuclear weapons.

These 5 points go into deeper detail in the following PDF:
http://www.aipac.org/~/media/Public.../Negotiating with Iran_5 Requirements_All.pdf

 

[ScottL]

Paying Tehran's Bills. Sanctions Relief Will Only Empower Iran - Lee Smith (Weekly Standard)

The White House continues to insist, against all evidence, that Iran's aggression won't increase when it gets a huge cash infusion from sanctions relief and an immediate $30 to $50 billion bonus, when (or if) it signs the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, aka the nuclear deal.

Staffan de Mistura, the UN's Syria envoy, recently estimated that the war to prop up its Syrian ally is costing Iran $35 billion a year. Of all Iran's regional projects, keeping Bashar al-Assad's regime afloat is the costliest. And that's because it's an occupation, says Fouad Hamdan, campaign director of Naame Shaam, an organization that keeps tabs on Iran's war in Syria.

What Tehran is most keen to obscure, says Hamdan, is the fact that its war in Syria is an occupation. Syrian rebel fighters acknowledge that the Syrian army still exists in places, but, according to Hamdan, Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is calling the shots.

"In the chain of command," says Hamdan, "Gen. Qassem Suleimani is on top, and the IRGC-Quds Force commander takes his orders directly from the Supreme Leader. Under him is Hossein Hamedani, who oversees IRGC operations in Syria.

Then there's the Iranian ambassador, various IRGC commanders, and Hizbullah commanders. Hizbullah does most of the training and takes on the most dangerous missions. Then there are other militias, like Iraqi and Afghan fighters, at the bottom."

Without Iranian assistance, Hizbullah will find itself drowning in a sea of Sunnis-from villagers in the Bekaa Valley to Islamist militants in the Palestinian refugee camps. Add to those numbers the 1.2 to 2 million Syrian refugees, the vast majority Sunni, now in Lebanon thanks to Iran and Hizbullah's occupation of their homeland.

Sanctions relief will abet Iran's regional goals. The signing bonus alone will cover the costs of Iran's continued occupation of Syria for at least another year and lead to tens of thousands more dead Syrian civilians.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Five Musts For A Deal With Iran

1. INSPECTIONS AND VERIFICATION
Inspectors must be permitted unimpeded access to suspect sites.
A good deal must support “anytime, anywhere” inspections – including all military facilities – to
verify Iranian compliance. Iran’s decades-long history of cheating on international obligations
suggests it will secretly attempt to continue its nuclear weapons program. Iran cannot be permitted
any safe havens where it could pursue this ambition.

2. POSSIBLE MILITARY DIMENSIONS
Iran must fully explain its prior weaponization efforts.
A good deal must require Iran to come clean on all of its prior nuclear work, such as developing
triggers for a nuclear weapon, as required by six United Nations Security Council resolutions.
The entire scope of Iran’s nuclear activities must be known to establish a baseline against which to
measure future actions. Iran must also be made to comply with prior commitments;
allowing Iran to shirk them will only tempt it to defy commitments made under a new deal.

3. SANCTIONS
Sanctions relief must commence only after Iran complies with its commitments.
A good deal must lift sanctions gradually as Iran meets its obligations under the agreement.
Further, any deal should specify clear and immediate consequences for Iranian violations. The
international community must retain significant leverage while Iran demonstrates compliance; it
must not provide immediate sanctions relief or unfreeze a significant portion of Tehran’s assets so
Iran can “take the money and run.”

4. DURATION
Iran’s nuclear weapons quest must be blocked for decades.
A good deal must prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear threshold state. The announced framework
would lift nuclear restrictions in 10 to 15 years and grant Iran virtually instant breakout time after
12 or 13 years. A deal must restrict Iran’s nuclear capabilities until it demonstrates conclusively, over
time, that it no longer seeks a nuclear weapons capability.

5. DISMANTLEMENT
Iran must dismantle its nuclear infrastructure so it has no path to a nuclear weapon.
A good deal must require Iran to dismantle its nuclear infrastructure and relinquish its uranium
stockpile such that it has neither a uranium nor plutonium pathway to nuclear weapons.

These 5 points go into deeper detail in the following PDF:
http://www.aipac.org/~/media/Publications/Policy%20and%20Politics/AIPAC%20Analyses/One%20Pagers/Negotiating%20with%20Iran_5%20Requirements_All.pdf

Those 5 points are meaningless if you have no intentions to enforce them.

Obama has got to be the most gullible person on the planet if he thinks Iran will voluntarily do what he wants.

These talks with Iran have been and will continue to be futile. If Iran’s nuclear program isn’t taken out by force they will undoubtedly have a bomb in the near future.

What they can do with it remains to be seen but unlike the other countries that have nuclear weapons they’re crazy enough to use one.

 

[ScottL]

Those 5 points are meaningless if you have no intentions to enforce them.

Detailed in the PDF....

I would also add, "free our hostages you're currently torturing."

 

[ScottL]

Pentagon: Iran Continuing Work on Nuclear Systems - Bill Gertz

Iran is continuing to develop missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons despite an interim agreement on its nuclear programs, according to a Pentagon report that was due in January but released this week.

"Although Iran has paused progress in some areas of its nuclear program and fulfilled its obligations under the Joint Plan of Action, it continues to develop technological capabilities that also could be applicable to nuclear weapons, including ballistic missile development," a one-page unclassified summary of the report says.

Iran's military also continues to threaten the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the Pentagon report said.

"Iran continues to develop its capabilities to control the Strait of Hormuz and avenues of approach in the event of a military conflict," the report said, adding that Tehran is "quietly fielding increasingly lethal weapon systems, including more advanced naval mines, small but capable submarines, armed unmanned aerial vehicles, coastal defense cruise missile batteries, attack craft, and anti-ship missiles."

Tehran's support for terrorism also has not stopped, according to the Pentagon. "Iran's covert activities appear to be continuing unabated," the report says. "The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) remains a key tool of lran's foreign policy and power projection, particularly in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, and Yemen." (Washington Free Beacon)

 

[ScottL]

Excerpts from Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon's interview with Lally Weymouth:

We consider the [Iranian nuclear] deal a very bad one. There is no doubt that the Iranians' intention and all of their activities in the last 20 years were in order to reach a military nuclear capability.

The deal is going to allow Iran to actually become a military nuclear threshold state. No facilities are going to be shut down, including underground facilities. No centrifuges will be destroyed. They will be able to go on with their research and development to have in the near future - whether it be 10 years or whatever - advanced centrifuges with a better capability to enrich uranium. They haven't exposed [that] there was a weaponization part of the project. We have hard evidence about it.

This rogue regime in Iran is ready to sacrifice a lot in order to export the revolution and to gain hegemony in the region by being active in Afghanistan and in Iraq.

In Syria, they support Bashar al-Assad, and in Lebanon, they support Hizbullah. In the Gaza Strip, they support Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. In Yemen, they support the Houthis.

What's next on their list? Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Dhahran, the area of the oil resources of Saudi Arabia, which is dominated by a Shia population. Iran is active over there undermining these regimes. They already control the Hormuz Straits, and now they are trying to control the straits of Bab-el-Mandeb in the Red Sea. The Iranian idea is to dominate the region.

The last element that is

out of the deal is the missiles. They have missiles that can cover all of Israel. It is not discussed.

Bashar al-Assad is losing ground. He governs or controls less than 25 percent of the former Syrian territory. He's concentrating along the shore - the Alawite enclave - Damascus, and a couple of towns. But he lost the eastern part of Syria. The Kurds enjoy autonomy in the northeastern part of Syria. He lost Aleppo, and Latakia is threatened now. We have the Islamic State now in the eastern part of Syria.​

 

[scottcarter]

add it to the list ...


List of Lies


Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.
Lies During the Sixth Year

“We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion.”
Poltifact.com
(IRS) “Not a even smidgen of corruption”
Foxnews.com
“Keystone pipeline would mean maybe 2,000 jobs”
Poltifact.com
Lies During the Fifth Year

“We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas.”
Politifact.com
“If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep it”
Washingtonpost.com
“The NSA is not abusing its power”
Washingtonpost.com
“I said benghazi was a terrorist attack from the beginning.”
Lubbockonline.com
“the foreign intelligence Surveillance court is transparent.”
Politifact.com
“First of all, I didn’t set a red line,” said Obama. “The world set a red line.”
Weeklystandard.com
nbcnews

Lies During Fourth Year

“The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
Politifact.com
“Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
Spero News
“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
cbsnews.com
Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
State Department
“Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
Politifact.com
“Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
politifact.com
Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
politifact.com
“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
abcnews.com
Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
Factcheck.org
My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
Factcheck.org
“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)
The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
“You Didn’t Build that”
A few examples
Lies During Third Year

I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
Youtube
In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
www.breitbart.com
I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza
Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
Examiner
“Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
Like Raising taxes?
Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.
GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
Dems Rejected Jobs Bill
You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
Gallup Poll: Only 69%
These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama
Jobs Bill Paid for
Seems not so much Paid for
Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11
I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
American.com
USA producing more oil than ever before
Petroleum Insights
Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
Department of Homeland Security says 5%
Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
National Taxpayers Union
Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
Cnn Interview
Lies During Second Year

Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
nationalreview.com
No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
Obama Lies to Keep Czars
No “boots” on the ground Libya
Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground
Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill
All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
Obama Memo
I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
Obama’s Schedule
The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency
If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall
“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.
ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans
We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010
Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
Arizona Immigration Law
Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
Claims never documented
The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time
Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
Hmm Immigration?
We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies
Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
Video Proof
I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.
I got the Message from Massachusetts
Daily Bail
Lies During First Year

We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
AP fact Checker
Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
AP fact Checker
Collective salvation
Obama calls himself a Christian
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009
Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
Associated Press Video
Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies
As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC
Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News
Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies
No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
CNN
I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org
We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies
I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR
Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.
Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations
2008 Campaign Lies

Bypassing congress unconstitutional; I intend to reverse when I am president
Vimeo
I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
Youtube
No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube
Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters
I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC
Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist
Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies
Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute
We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe
I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes
I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency
When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech
My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts
Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video
Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube
Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.
Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR
I Won Michigan
Huffington Post
I won Nevada
The Nation
I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News
My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars
I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post
My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN
Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video
I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times
My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

 

[scottcarter]

All False statements involving Barack Obama

From 'I'm not a king' to 'obliged to do everything I can'

​

BARACK OBAMA
"My position hasn’t changed" on using executive authority to address immigration issues.



The JV team is now varsity

​

BARACK OBAMA
Says his comment about extremists being a JV team "wasn’t specifically referring to" Islamic State.



"Between Two Ferns" was a hit, but this factoid is wrong

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered" by health insurance.



Well under half that

​

BARACK OBAMA
"We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion."



Admininstration's reports say otherwise

​

BARACK OBAMA
The "most realistic estimates" for jobs created by Keystone XL are "maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline."



Doubled ... in 2025

​

BARACK OBAMA
"We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas."



Lots of Members of Congress don't think so

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Throughout, we have kept Congress fully informed of our efforts" to create a legal framework on counterterrorism.



It's households, not families

​

BARACK OBAMA
"If the House of Representatives fails to extend the middle-class tax cuts, 400,000 middle-class Rhode Island families will see their federal income taxes increase."
— PolitiFact Rhode Island



A widely spread misquote

​

BARACK OBAMA
Says Mitt Romney "called the Arizona law a model for the nation."



Don't hold your breath for those SBA loans, Mr. Trump

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business."



Credit the economy, not Obamacare

​

BARACK OBAMA
Because of Obamacare, "over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it's true -- but they've gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years."



Using a method tilted in Obama's favor

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of" President George W. Bush’s policies and the recession.



'Fast and Furious' born in 2009

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.
— PolitiFact Florida



Romney touted a different law

​

BARACK OBAMA
Mitt Romney "says the Arizona immigration law should be a model for the nation."
— PolitiFact Texas



Romney's own words say otherwise

​

BARACK OBAMA
Says Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.



In some ways, losses were bigger under Reagan

​

BARACK OBAMA
"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."



Wrong or misleading from several angles

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."



Slim majority, not unprecedented

​

BARACK OBAMA
If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it "would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."



Better to stick to the script

​

BARACK OBAMA
"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."
— PolitiFact Wisconsin



Wrong in 2009, and wrong today

​

BARACK OBAMA
"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody.


3 more pages ------------------ > http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

 

[BleedingPurple]

Those 5 points are meaningless if you have no intentions to enforce them.

Obama has got to be the most gullible person on the planet if he thinks Iran will voluntarily do what he wants.

These talks with Iran have been and will continue to be futile. If Iran’s nuclear program isn’t taken out by force they will undoubtedly have a bomb in the near future.

What they can do with it remains to be seen but unlike the other countries that have nuclear weapons they’re crazy enough to use one.

I agree, I think it's time we start knocking the shit out of them, enough is enough. I think we are just delaying the inevitable. We need to do more to crush Isis, we can't rely on the locals to take care of the problem. it's time for more action and clean it up! I would rather they clean house but we are more worried about our image right now.

 

[superbeets]

[h=1]Iran’s Supreme Leader Says U.S. Cannot Be Trusted[/h][h=2]Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said ‘the arrogants’ couldn’t be trusted, as deadline for nuclear deal nears[/h]

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Thursday that the U.S. and other global powers couldn’t be trusted, weeks before a deadline for Tehran to reach a nuclear deal with those powers.

ENLARGE
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei delivers a speech in Tehran during the 26th anniversary of the death of the Islamic Republic’s founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. He said the U.S. and other arrogant powers couldn’t be trusted, ahead of a deadline for a nuclear deal that could ease sanctions against Iran. PHOTO: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES


Mr. Khamenei, a hard-liner in Iran’s clerical leadership who has the final say over most matters of state, often rails against the U.S., Israel and other adversaries. But his rhetoric is being closely watched in the lead-up to the June 30 deadline to strike a comprehensive nuclear deal with the U.S. and five other world powers. The deal seeks to limit Iran’s nuclear activities in exchange for an easing of international sanctions.
“We see how it is impossible to trust the promises of the arrogant ones and how we can’t rely on words said in private meetings,” Mr. Khamenei said in a speech to mark the anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the driving force behind the country’s 1979 Islamic revolution.
“Global powers should not be trusted at all,” the supreme leader said, citing the guidance of his predecessor, Mr. Khomeini. But he also said Mr. Khomeini’s guidance “didn’t mean cutting off relations with the world.”
The White House played down the Iranian leader’s comments.
“Negotiations would not have proceeded as far as they have without at least the willingness of the supreme leader to keep an open mind to resolving this dispute diplomatically,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest said.




Mr. Khamenei, 75, often sends messages that attempt to appeal both to a hard-line support base that opposes mending ties with the U.S. and to a large youth population that is more open to reform and rapprochement. More than half of Iranians are under 35 and were born after the revolution.
Recently, Mr. Khamenei has expressed support for Iran’s team of nuclear negotiators. But he set strict guidelines for the talks and voiced doubts about the intentions of the other powers involved. Still, his latest remarks didn’t amount to any change in his position on the talks.
Shortly after the outlines of the final nuclear deal were agreed in April, Mr. Khamenei laid out two new red lines. He said Iranian military sites couldn’t be subject to international inspections, and that sanctions must be lifted all at once as soon as a deal was reached.
Neither of Mr. Khamenei’s red lines is likely to be accepted by the U.S. and other powers involved in the negotiations—China, Russia, Germany, France and the U.K.
One of Iran’s lead negotiators said Thursday that while inspection of military sites wouldn’t be allowed, Iran would agree to permit “controlled access” to its nuclear facilities, according to a report by the official Islamic Republic News Agency.
Mr. Earnest responded that a complete lack of access to military sites is something that the U.S. won’t sign on to.
“These are exactly the kinds of details that are being discussed around the negotiating table,” Mr. Earnest said. “An agreement won't go forward unless Iran commits to cooperating to the most intrusive inspections” ever conducted inside of Iran.
Michael Singh, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said Mr. Khamenei’s words might just be a bargaining position.
“This could just be a clever negotiating strategy—setting maximalist red lines and questioning our trustworthiness in the hope that we will offer concessions to accommodate him and dispel his accusations,” he said. “Or it could reflect genuine ambivalence or even opposition to a deal. We won’t know which until Khamenei actually has a deal in front of him to sign.”
Karim Sadjadpour, a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Mr. Khamenei walks a fine line between placating his anti-West base and a wider population that has been squeezed by the economic sanctions.

 

[superbeets]

Israelis and Saudis Reveal Secret Talks to Thwart Iran


JUN 4, 2015 4:42 PM EDTBy Eli Lake


Since the beginning of 2014, representatives from Israel and Saudi Arabia have had five secret meetings to discuss a common foe, Iran. On Thursday, the two countries came out of the closet by revealing this covert diplomacy at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington.
Among those who follow the Middle East closely, it's been an open secret that Israel and Saudi Arabia have a common interest in thwarting Iran. But until Thursday, actual diplomacy between the two was never officially acknowledged. Saudi Arabia still doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist. Israel has yet to accept a Saudi-initiated peace offer to create a Palestinian state.
It was not a typical Washington think-tank event. No questions were taken from the audience. After an introduction, there was a speech in Arabic from Anwar Majed Eshki, a retired Saudi general and ex-adviser to Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to the U.S. Then Dore Gold, a former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations who is slotted to be the next director general of Israel's foreign ministry, gave a speech in English.
While these men represent countries that have been historic enemies, their message was identical: Iran is trying to take over the Middle East and it must be stopped.
Eshki was particularly alarming. He laid out a brief history of Iran since the 1979 revolution, highlighting the regime's acts of terrorism, hostage-taking and aggression. He ended his remarks with a seven-point plan for the Middle East. Atop the list was achieving peace between Israel and the Arabs. Second came regime-change in Iran. Also on the list were greater Arab unity, the establishment of an Arab regional military force, and a call for an independent Kurdistan to be made up of territory now belonging to Iraq, Turkey and Iran.
Gold's speech was slightly less grandiose. He, too, warned of Iran's regional ambitions. But he didn't call for toppling the Tehran government. "Our standing today on this stage does not mean we have resolved all the differences that our countries have shared over the years," he said of his outreach to Saudi Arabia. "But our hope is we will be able to address them fully in the years ahead."
It's no coincidence that the meetings between Gold, Eshki and a few other former officials from both sides took place in the shadow of the nuclear talks among Iran, the U.S. and other major powers. Saudi Arabia and Israel are arguably the two countries most threatened by Iran's nuclear program, but neither has a seat at the negotiations scheduled to wrap up at the end of the month.
The five bilateral meetings over the last 17 months occurred in India, Italy and the Czech Republic. One participant, Shimon Shapira, a retired Israeli general and an expert on the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, told me: "We discovered we have the same problems and same challenges and some of the same answers." Shapira described the problem as Iran's activities in the region, and said both sides had discussed political and economic ways to blunt them, but wouldn't get into any further specifics.
Eshki told me that no real cooperation would be possible until Israel's prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, accepted what's known as the Arab Peace Initiative to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The plan was first shared with New York Times columnist Tom Friedman in 2002 by Saudi Arabia's late King Abdullah, then the kingdom's crown prince.
Israel's quiet relationships with Gulf Arab states goes back to the 1990s and the Oslo Peace Process. Back then, some Arab countries such as Qatar allowed Israel to open trade missions. Others allowed an Israeli intelligence presence, including Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates.
These ties became more focused on Iran over the last decade, as shown by documents released by WikiLeaks in 2010. A March 19, 2009, cable quoted Israel's then-deputy director general of the foreign minister, Yacov Hadas, saying one reason for the warming of relations was that the Arabs felt Israel could advance their interests vis-a-vis Iran in Washington. "Gulf Arabs believe in Israel's role because of their perception of Israel's close relationship with the U.S. but also due to their sense that they can count on Israel against Iran," the cable said.
But only now has open cooperation between Saudi Arabia and Israel become a possibility. For Gold, it represents something of a sea change. In 2003, he published a book, "Hatred's Kingdom," about Saudi Arabia's role in financing terrorism and Islamic extremism. He explained Thursday that he wrote that book "at the height of the second intifada when Saudi Arabia was financing and fundraising for the murder of Israelis." Today, Gold said, it is Iran that is primarily working with those Palestinian groups that continue to embrace terrorism.
Gold went on to say that Iran is now outfitting groups such as Hezbollah in Lebanon with precision-guided missiles, as opposed to the unguided rockets Iran has traditionally provided its allies in Lebanon. He also said Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps forces propping up the Bashar al-Assad regime are now close to the Israeli-Syrian border.
A few years ago, it was mainly Israel that rang the alarm about Iranian expansionism in the Middle East. It is significant that now Israel is joined in this campaign by Saudi Arabia, a country that has wished for its destruction since 1948.
The two nations worry today that President Barack Obama's efforts to make peace with Iran will embolden that regime's aggression against them. It's unclear whether Obama will get his nuclear deal. But either way, it may end up that his greatest diplomatic accomplishment will be that his outreach to Iran helped create the conditions for a Saudi-Israeli alliance against it.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I agree, I think it's time we start knocking the shit out of them, enough is enough. I think we are just delaying the inevitable. We need to do more to crush Isis, we can't rely on the locals to take care of the problem. it's time for more action and clean it up! I would rather they clean house but we are more worried about our image right now.

After WWII America got a severe case of amnesia when it comes to winning wars. It took us 4 years to defeat the Axis of powers. Today is seems we can’t defeat a bunch of Camel Jockeys.

That’s what happens when a bunch of politicians are in charge instead of the military.

 

[ScottL]

Contextualizing Israeli Concerns about the Iran Nuclear Deal - Michael Herzog (Washington Institute for Near East Policy)

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  [*]As a global power, the U.S. does not feel directly threatened by Iran but rather sees some of Iran's behaviors as threatening or challenging to U.S. interests and allies in the Middle East. By contrast, Israel views Iran as its most serious and direct strategic threat. Specifically, Israel considers Iran a regional power that expresses its revolutionary ideology - an ideology that negates Israel's right to exist - in both nuclear and hegemonic ambitions.
  
  [*]On Israel's border with Lebanon to the north, Israel has watched Iran arm its proxy Hizbullah with more than 100,000 rockets aimed at Israel. Facing such an enemy, Israel naturally sees greater risks than does the U.S. - and tends to attach more weight to these risks than to potential opportunities.
  [*]Israel regards the Lausanne framework as essentially legitimizing Iran's status as a nuclear-threshold state. In other words, Iran will ultimately be allowed to reach the critical breakout point associated with the production of weapons-grade enriched uranium, facilitating an unimpeded move to the bomb. The long-term implications of this status for Israel's national security are profound, including the possibility that other regional actors would seek a similar status, triggering a dangerous cascade of regional proliferation.
  [*]The administration's constant refrain that "the only alternative to this deal is war" only reinforces Israeli doubts about U.S. deterrence. Why would Iran rush forward, risking a U.S. military response, unless it believed the U.S. was unwilling to use military force? Israeli ears hear "any deal is better than no deal."
  [*]Instead of deterrence, Israel and the Sunni Arab states see that, for the sake of reaching a nuclear deal, the U.S. has granted Iran considerable room to pursue destabilizing policies toward its goal of regional hegemony. Regional actors give no credence to Washington's optimistic assessment that in a post-deal era Iran will change priorities and overwhelmingly direct the significant funds released as sanctions are relaxed toward fixing the economy and other internal reforms
  [*]From an Israeli perspective, the U.S. has essentially shifted the focus of its policy from prevention of a nuclear-armed Iran to containment of a nuclear-threshold Iran. It is hard to find anyone in Israeli decision-making or policy circles who believes that the current U.S. administration would actually stop Iran militarily if faced with an imminent Iranian bomb. Israel's basic instinct of self-reliance on critical national security matters has only been reinforced throughout the diplomatic process.

 

[ScottL]

• Iran Is Playing the World for Suckers - Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry
  Iran has been caught red-handed lying, cheating, and double-talking throughout the negotiating process. It is still developing missiles designed to carry nuclear warheads, according to the Pentagon. It is reportedly still working with North Korea on military nuclear technology. In other words, the story that Iran is willing to give up its nuclear ambitions no longer matches up with the facts.
  Yes, it would be absolutely great if we could work out a win-win deal whereby Iran gives up the nukes, becomes a good global citizen, and rejoins the community of nations. There is a point, however, where optimism shades into wishful thinking, and wishful thinking into self-delusion. The only reasonable interpretation of recent events is that Iran is fully determined to get a nuclear weapon at whatever costs, and is only using negotiations with the West as a delaying tactic in its rush for the bomb. The writer is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. (The Week)

 

[ScottL]

OOPS!


Iran Parliament Bans Inspector Access to Military Sites - Ali Akbar Dareini (AP)
With some lawmakers chanting "Death to the America," Iran's parliament voted Sunday to ban access to military sites, documents and scientists as part of a future deal with world powers over its nuclear program.
Parliament also demanded the complete lifting of all sanctions against Iran.

 

[ScottL]

U.S. Says Iran's Support of Terrorism "Undiminished" - Felicia Schwartz
The State Department said Iran's support for terrorism was "undiminished" in 2014, and the U.S. remains very concerned about the activities of Iran's Revolutionary Guards and its proxies in the Middle East, according to its annual report on global terrorism, released Friday. Of particular concern was Iran's continued support of Hizbullah and its assistance to Syrian President Assad's regime.
Tina Kaidanow, the State Department's coordinator for counterterrorism, said sanctions on Iran related to terrorism would remain in place even if a nuclear deal is reached. (Wall Street Journal)