Obama and the Democrats just did to amateur college sports what they've done to the economy, healthcare and the military - FUBARED THEM!

[SheriffJoe]

College athletes can unionize, federal agency says

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/03/...e-federal-agency-says/20857581/?ncid=webmail1

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Everything this fraud touches turns to crap! :>(

 

[BleedingPurple]

College athletes can unionize, federal agency says

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/03/...e-federal-agency-says/20857581/?ncid=webmail1

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Everything this fraud touches turns to crap! :>(

Everything is Obama and the Democrats fault.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Everything is Obama and the Democrats fault.

Because they can't simply fuck off and leave people alone.

They have to stick their nose into EVERYTHING!

 

[wabashwonders]

Because they can't simply fuck off and leave people alone.

They have to stick their nose into EVERYTHING!

I am totally against unions but how exactly does Obama and the Democrats have anything to do with this? Seems to me the NW football players initiated this and are the ones who want to be unionized. You just want to blame Obama for everything.

 

[JDeuce]

This is not as simple as saying "Hey, the NCAA makes a ton of money, so give us some too!" This issue could become very, very complicated.

Should athletes on a women's lacrosse scholarship be paid the same amount as the football players, who probably bring in 100x as much revenue? Should each football player on the team be paid the same amount...? If so, how is it fair that the backup long snapper who never plays would make the same as the starting QB? Unless you set a limit (ie salary cap) on how much money each athlete can make, but then you run into another problem: what's the 'right' salary cap that is fair to every team? What's considered affordable to some schools isn't affordable to others. Cal State Northridge won't be able to pay their players nearly as much as UCLA or USC would.

The NCAA says only about 1% of all college athletes go on to play professionally, which sounds about right. I'd imagine not every one of them is thrilled about this, because if a requirement to start paying players is enforced, then the scholarships are likely to disappear. The cost of college has skyrocketed in recent years...attending even a decent school like Northwestern for ex...after room+board, tuition, housing, etc...a 4-yr degree can easily run over $100k. I'm sure a number of student-athletes are happy to graduate debt-free and would take that over a salary...

In short, I think this will likely create far more problems than it will solve. Par for the union course, I suppose.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Should an athletic scholarship be taxable now?

After all, Obama's radical Democrap hustlers say student athletes are now "employees." hno:

The ramifications are endless.

These people are fucking insane!

Oh well, elections have consequences.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Should an athletic scholarship be taxable now?

After all, Obama's radical Democrap hustlers say student athletes are now "employees." hno:

The ramifications are endless.

These people are fucking insane!

Oh well, elections have consequences.

You need to look no further than Obamacare to see that no thought was put into this.

Ramifications? Fuck it, they’ll just make up the rules as they go along. And if the rules don’t work they’ll just change them again and again.

Somehow, someway, I just know taxpayers will be on the hook for something.

 

[SheriffJoe]

You need to look no further than Obamacare to see that no thought was put into this.

Ramifications? Fuck it, they’ll just make up the rules as they go along. And if the rules don’t work they’ll just change them again and again.

Somehow, someway, I just know taxpayers will be on the hook for something.

It's another political vote-buying scheme cooked up by Hussein's most radical Big Labor hustlers.

 

[NFLTrends]

This isn't good for any of the players.

 

[The Guesser]

Everything is Obama and the Democrats fault.

The insane idiot Casper blames Obama and the Democrats for the rain up in his Purple Flowerbed in Toronto. When you're a pathetic closeted birther, who can't come to grips with who and what you are, it's hard to look in the mirror and blame that person looking back at you, so it's easier to lash out at the bogeyman. Over and Over and over, no matter the topic.

 

[BleedingPurple]

The insane idiot Casper blames Obama and the Democrats for the rain up in his Purple Flowerbed in Toronto. When you're a pathetic closeted birther, who can't come to grips with who and what you are, it's hard to look in the mirror and blame that person looking back at you, so it's easier to lash out at the bogeyman. Over and Over and over, no matter the topic.

Yeah and the followers come in and blame Obama. It's like Obama invented unions, this is something he had nothing to do with. So we ask why does Obama get the blame for EVERYTHING? Some people come to their own conclusions.

 

[JDeuce]

The insane idiot Casper blames Obama and the Democrats for the rain up in his Purple Flowerbed in Toronto. When you're a pathetic closeted birther, who can't come to grips with who and what you are, it's hard to look in the mirror and blame that person looking back at you, so it's easier to lash out at the bogeyman. Over and Over and over, no matter the topic.

But enough about the dimocrap party, Mr. "pedophiles are cool as long as a dem is doing it..."

No one is saying this is a directive from the Stuttering Clusterfuck. It's about the mindset that unionizing will solve everything and somehow make everyone rich, except for the business owners...which you all despise and demonize. Was the judge who made this ruling federally appointed? I don't know since I didn't look too deeply into it.

But the problems I laid out in my post are just barely scratching the surface of the enormous issues this ruling could potentially create. A judge saying "Yep, go ahead and unionize! It's gonna be awesome!" won't change any of that.

The only thing I can think of as a suitable replacement would be a minor league system similar to what is done for soccer in Europe: send kids to sports academies early in life and hope they develop into pros. A few have popped up in Florida recently. The problem is the vast majority of the athletes do not make it and end up performing unskilled labor for the rest of their lives because they have no education to fall back on since they spent their time playing sports. Hmm, would have been awfully nice to have earned something for the time spent chasing the dream, no? Like a college degree, maybe?

 

[BleedingPurple]

But enough about the dimocrap party, Mr. "pedophiles are cool as long as a dem is doing it..."

No one is saying this is a directive from the Stuttering Clusterfuck. It's about the mindset that unionizing will solve everything and somehow make everyone rich, except for the business owners...which you all despise and demonize. Was the judge who made this ruling federally appointed? I don't know since I didn't look too deeply into it. I'm just sick of hearing everything is Obama's or a unions fault. Many businesses don't succeed because of the owner itself. I think Unionizing college athletics may cut their own throat though

But the problems I laid out in my post are just barely scratching the surface of the enormous issues this ruling could potentially create. A judge saying "Yep, go ahead and unionize! It's gonna be awesome!" won't change any of that.

The only thing I can think of as a suitable replacement would be a minor league system similar to what is done for soccer in Europe: send kids to sports academies early in life and hope they develop into pros. A few have popped up in Florida recently. The problem is the vast majority of the athletes do not make it and end up performing unskilled labor for the rest of their lives because they have no education to fall back on since they spent their time playing sports. Hmm, would have been awfully nice to have earned something for the time spent chasing the dream, no? Like a college degree, maybe?

I don't know where you get that we all demonize or despise the business owner? I think some unions are good and some not so good, just like some business owners. We can't deny that unions were once needed, I wonder what would happen if we eliminated all unions? I'm all for business and I am all for unions what unions have done to get working conditions to the point of where they are today.

 

[The Guesser]

But enough about the dimocrap party, Mr. "pedophiles are cool as long as a dem is doing it..."

No one is saying this is a directive from the Stuttering Clusterfuck. It's about the mindset that unionizing will solve everything and somehow make everyone rich, except for the business owners...which you all despise and demonize. Was the judge who made this ruling federally appointed? I don't know since I didn't look too deeply into it.

But the problems I laid out in my post are just barely scratching the surface of the enormous issues this ruling could potentially create. A judge saying "Yep, go ahead and unionize! It's gonna be awesome!" won't change any of that.

The only thing I can think of as a suitable replacement would be a minor league system similar to what is done for soccer in Europe: send kids to sports academies early in life and hope they develop into pros. A few have popped up in Florida recently. The problem is the vast majority of the athletes do not make it and end up performing unskilled labor for the rest of their lives because they have no education to fall back on since they spent their time playing sports. Hmm, would have been awfully nice to have earned something for the time spent chasing the dream, no? Like a college degree, maybe?

Your 1st line is an out and out lie, which you know. The rest of your diatribe loses any standing when you blame Obama or Dems for this in any way. You're sinking into Casper territory, blaming Obama for everything that happens, including your own miserable life.

 

[mplastered]

I don't know where you get that we all demonize or despise the business owner? I think some unions are good and some not so good, just like some business owners. We can't deny that unions were once needed, I wonder what would happen if we eliminated all unions? I'm all for business and I am all for unions what unions have done to get working conditions to the point of where they are today.

Nice write up.

 

[SheriffJoe]

But enough about the dimocrap party, Mr. "pedophiles are cool as long as a dem is doing it..."

No one is saying this is a directive from the Stuttering Clusterfuck. It's about the mindset that unionizing will solve everything and somehow make everyone rich, except for the business owners...which you all despise and demonize. Was the judge who made this ruling federally appointed? I don't know since I didn't look too deeply into it.

But the problems I laid out in my post are just barely scratching the surface of the enormous issues this ruling could potentially create. A judge saying "Yep, go ahead and unionize! It's gonna be awesome!" won't change any of that.

The only thing I can think of as a suitable replacement would be a minor league system similar to what is done for soccer in Europe: send kids to sports academies early in life and hope they develop into pros. A few have popped up in Florida recently. The problem is the vast majority of the athletes do not make it and end up performing unskilled labor for the rest of their lives because they have no education to fall back on since they spent their time playing sports. Hmm, would have been awfully nice to have earned something for the time spent chasing the dream, no? Like a college degree, maybe?

Don't be fooled by the usual partisan clowns.

All five current members of the NLRB were hand picked by Obama as recess appointments, no less.

And just like the Kenyan, the head of the board wasn't even born in the USA but Korea.

Of course this entire Big Labor power grab had to come from Chicago, where else?

This is what happens when spineless RINOs don't stand up to this outlaw thug. Without those recess appointments, this wouldn't have happened.

 

[DrunkenHorseplayer]

The problem is the vast majority of the athletes do not make it and end up performing unskilled labor for the rest of their lives because they have no education to fall back on since they spent their time playing sports. Hmm, would have been awfully nice to have earned something for the time spent chasing the dream, no? Like a college degree, maybe?

In case you didn't notice, this perfectly describes college football and basketball and, to a lesser extent, the other sports.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Here is the best summary of what the recent decision means, not that any of you shitheads will actually read it.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/mac-footb.../northwestern-players-union-what-does-it-mean

 

[JohnnyMac]

This is not as simple as saying "Hey, the NCAA makes a ton of money, so give us some too!" This issue could become very, very complicated.

Should athletes on a women's lacrosse scholarship be paid the same amount as the football players, who probably bring in 100x as much revenue? Should each football player on the team be paid the same amount...? If so, how is it fair that the backup long snapper who never plays would make the same as the starting QB? Unless you set a limit (ie salary cap) on how much money each athlete can make, but then you run into another problem: what's the 'right' salary cap that is fair to every team? What's considered affordable to some schools isn't affordable to others. Cal State Northridge won't be able to pay their players nearly as much as UCLA or USC would.

The NCAA says only about 1% of all college athletes go on to play professionally, which sounds about right. I'd imagine not every one of them is thrilled about this, because if a requirement to start paying players is enforced, then the scholarships are likely to disappear. The cost of college has skyrocketed in recent years...attending even a decent school like Northwestern for ex...after room+board, tuition, housing, etc...a 4-yr degree can easily run over $100k. I'm sure a number of student-athletes are happy to graduate debt-free and would take that over a salary...

In short, I think this will likely create far more problems than it will solve. Par for the union course, I suppose.

You have no clue on this issue. See below.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Here are the goals of the Northwestern football players:

1.) Implementing the National Collegiate Players' Association's concussion plan, which requires the use of independent physicians to evaluate players for concussions, rather than doctors on the team payroll. 2) Raise the scholarship amount given to players so that it matches the actual cost of attendance colleges report to the federal government for financial aid calculation purposes. (In the example linked above, Nebraska is allowed to give a total of $29,064 per year for an athletic scholarship even though the cost of attendance for out-of-state students they report to the feds is $32,486.) 3) Requiring schools, rather than players' own insurance, to cover injuries suffered in practice or on the field. 4) Requiring the NCAA and its member schools to invest a portion of TV and related revenue into programs that will help more athletes to graduate. (They also suggest reducing the number of weeknight games, which interfere with academics.) 5) Requiring schools to honor the scholarships of all student-athletes in good standing, or requiring schools to replace the athletic scholarship of such an athlete with a non-athletic scholarship if he or she has a scholarship pulled while in good standing (i.e., eliminating the practice of oversigning). 6) Prohibit universities from using a career-ending injury suffered in practice or play as a reason to pull or reduce a scholarship. 7) Establish uniform safety guidelines to be followed by all programs that will help prevent otherwise avoidable deaths, and allow players who see violations to anonymously report such violations to the NCAA. 8)Allow players to find legitimate employment for supplemental income, which is a HUGE hurdle right now. 9) Prohibit the punishment of college athletes that have not committed any violations. (That is, punish coaches who break the rules with heavy-duty show-cause orders rather than barring some totally unrelated freshman from going to a bowl game five years later.) 10) Require that athletes who wish to transfer schools be granted an athletic release. 11) Allow athletes one "free" transfer in their career that allows them to be eligible the next season without sitting out a year. _________________