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"More than half of the people named so far to Obama's transition or staff posts have ties to former President Bill Clinton's administration."


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Barack Obama pledged to bring "fundamental change to Washington" as he campaigned for the White House -- but as the president-elect fills out his administration, critics say they're seeing just more of the same.
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<!--endclickprintexclude--> More than half of the people named so far to Obama's transition or staff posts have ties to former President Bill Clinton's administration.
The Clinton-heavy team has caused some Republicans to question Obama's call for change.
"I think several individuals are very frustrated to think that President-elect Obama may just cut and paste from some of the Democratic operatives from the Clinton administration and put them into his White House," said Leslie Sanchez, a Republican strategist and CNN contributor.
Republicans aren't the only ones who want Obama to branch out. Robert Kuttner, a liberal and author of "Obama's Challenge," says the president-elect should broaden his recruiting efforts.
"It's not as if the only competent people who ever served in government or who are capable are serving in government are veterans of the Clinton administration, so he's got to be careful how many Clintonistas he appoints to top level government posts," Kuttner said.
Before Clinton, however, Democrats had not been in the White House since Jimmy Carter, and many of those in Carter's administration are too old to serve again under Obama.
 
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How long before the kool-aid drinkers realize that
Obama is just another Jimmy Carter, with a different color skin?
 

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If change means going back to when we were at peace and prospering under Democratic rule, thats ok by me.

But I can see how it would piss you neocons off.
 

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If he wasn't hiring these people that have worked under a president before, people would be crying he's filling the White House with zero government experience.

Kutner isn't exactly accurate with the quote below...in fact, I'd probably assume the opposite...since as noted in the article, the only other dem administration was Carter...and those people aren't very young.

"It's not as if the only competent people who ever served in government or who are capable are serving in government are veterans of the Clinton administration, so he's got to be careful how many Clintonistas he appoints to top level government posts," Kuttner said.
 
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If change means going back to when we were at peace and prospering under Democratic rule, thats ok by me.

But I can see how it would piss you neocons off.

You referring to Bill Clinton who decimated the CIA, and
passed up extraditing Bin Laden? Seems like the Iraqi situation
would be a bit different had Clinton not passed up SEVERAL
opportunities to capture Bin Laden and his terrorist associates,
don't you think?

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I think that is neocon propaganda aimed at deflecting the blame from Dubya
 

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Hmm.... so are you saying it's not true?


Hey Zit..havent you figured out that arguing with punter is basically pointless as he is the most brainwashed left wing propaganda filled koolaid drinker on the forum.

He likes to argue for how great Bill Clinton was. Dude was an assclown who just happened to be in charge during a prosperous time in the WOLRD..not just our country. Technology and the internet made a whole slew of people very rich. The anti war asswipes who make claims to how great things were under Clinton, are the same jackholes who talk out the other sides of their mouths when they bad mouth Bush for doing the whole world a favor.

They always conviniently forget that the first attack on the WTC was in 93..only it did not work. Clinton started his wars, but they dont like to talk about that. They just like to blame Bush for our current situation.

They dont like to talk about the fact that had Clinton done his job in 97, Obama would still be behind bars...but that would give Punter and jokers like him nothing to talk about when they bash Bush about not capturing Bin Laden yet..

The latest was a blurb about Reagan making Bin Laden a freedom fighter. In some light, there is some truth, but what they fail to include is the fact that with Reagans actions they we were able to put an end to the cold war with Russia, and basically produce the longest free standing period of peace we have seen since WW2. Would shake the foundation of their argument. Besides, who knew the towel heads would do what they doing.

I would call his posse 10 percenters. They talk about 10% of the story and make claims based on that 10%. There is no "other side" to the story, and they lack the basic fundamental knowledge in foreign policy that tells a sensible person that sometimes the best defense is a good offense is unfathomable. Google Hitler.

Keep it up Zit..they cannot handle your knowledge or intellect and it drives them mad. Libs dont like to have their thoughts challenged as they perceive themselves as outside the box thinkers to begin with.
 

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If change means going back to when we were at peace and prospering under Democratic rule, thats ok by me.

But I can see how it would piss you neocons off.

1993 Trade Center bombing
1995 Saudi bombing of our military
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1998 Embassy bombings
2000 US Cole attack

Living in peace, or did Clinton make the US a cowardly gutless punching bag for terrorists?

And yeah, it pisses me off that Clinton used the Oval Office as his place to get fat ugly chicks to suck his tiny chicken shit dick while he chats with US Senators on the phone. Using ugly p***y for cigar dipping, shooting his loads on dresses and lying to us all, wagging his finger in our faces, actually wondering what the definition of "is" is, and humiliating and disgracing his family on an international level.

It pisses me off that the only time this coward, do nothing, lying, cheating dirtbag of a President actually decides to use our military force, it's because Cumstain-gate was about to hit the front pages and he needed something to replace it.

As for as those being prosperous years, no credit goes to Democrats because no President can control an economy's performance. The Nazi Party could have held the Presidency and those 8 years still would have been prosperous.
 

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Obama equals uncle tom.

Obama will do what bill and his cronies tell him to do.
 

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"More than half of the people named so far to Obama's transition or staff posts have ties to former President Bill Clinton's administration."


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Barack Obama pledged to bring "fundamental change to Washington" as he campaigned for the White House -- but as the president-elect fills out his administration, critics say they're seeing just more of the same.
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<!--===========/IMAGE===========--><!--===========CAPTION==========-->Barack Obama's team is made up of a lot of people who also worked for former President Bill Clinton.<!--===========/CAPTION=========-->


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<!--endclickprintexclude--> More than half of the people named so far to Obama's transition or staff posts have ties to former President Bill Clinton's administration.
The Clinton-heavy team has caused some Republicans to question Obama's call for change.
"I think several individuals are very frustrated to think that President-elect Obama may just cut and paste from some of the Democratic operatives from the Clinton administration and put them into his White House," said Leslie Sanchez, a Republican strategist and CNN contributor.
Republicans aren't the only ones who want Obama to branch out. Robert Kuttner, a liberal and author of "Obama's Challenge," says the president-elect should broaden his recruiting efforts.
"It's not as if the only competent people who ever served in government or who are capable are serving in government are veterans of the Clinton administration, so he's got to be careful how many Clintonistas he appoints to top level government posts," Kuttner said.
Before Clinton, however, Democrats had not been in the White House since Jimmy Carter, and many of those in Carter's administration are too old to serve again under Obama.

Quit your cryin already.
 
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Hey Zit..havent you figured out that arguing with punter is basically pointless as he is the most brainwashed left wing propaganda filled koolaid drinker on the forum.

He likes to argue for how great Bill Clinton was. Dude was an assclown who just happened to be in charge during a prosperous time in the WOLRD..not just our country. Technology and the internet made a whole slew of people very rich. The anti war asswipes who make claims to how great things were under Clinton, are the same jackholes who talk out the other sides of their mouths when they bad mouth Bush for doing the whole world a favor.

They always conviniently forget that the first attack on the WTC was in 93..only it did not work. Clinton started his wars, but they dont like to talk about that. They just like to blame Bush for our current situation.

They dont like to talk about the fact that had Clinton done his job in 97, Obama would still be behind bars...but that would give Punter and jokers like him nothing to talk about when they bash Bush about not capturing Bin Laden yet..

The latest was a blurb about Reagan making Bin Laden a freedom fighter. In some light, there is some truth, but what they fail to include is the fact that with Reagans actions they we were able to put an end to the cold war with Russia, and basically produce the longest free standing period of peace we have seen since WW2. Would shake the foundation of their argument. Besides, who knew the towel heads would do what they doing.

I would call his posse 10 percenters. They talk about 10% of the story and make claims based on that 10%. There is no "other side" to the story, and they lack the basic fundamental knowledge in foreign policy that tells a sensible person that sometimes the best defense is a good offense is unfathomable. Google Hitler.

Keep it up Zit..they cannot handle your knowledge or intellect and it drives them mad. Libs dont like to have their thoughts challenged as they perceive themselves as outside the box thinkers to begin with.

Thanks GasMan. There are some bright, articulate folks on the left on here,
though Punter isn't one of them.
 
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1993 Trade Center bombing
1995 Saudi bombing of our military
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1998 Embassy bombings
2000 US Cole attack

Living in peace, or did Clinton make the US a cowardly gutless punching bag for terrorists?

And yeah, it pisses me off that Clinton used the Oval Office as his place to get fat ugly chicks to suck his tiny chicken shit dick while he chats with US Senators on the phone. Using ugly p***y for cigar dipping, shooting his loads on dresses and lying to us all, wagging his finger in our faces, actually wondering what the definition of "is" is, and humiliating and disgracing his family on an international level.

It pisses me off that the only time this coward, do nothing, lying, cheating dirtbag of a President actually decides to use our military force, it's because Cumstain-gate was about to hit the front pages and he needed something to replace it.

As for as those being prosperous years, no credit goes to Democrats because no President can control an economy's performance. The Nazi Party could have held the Presidency and those 8 years still would have been prosperous.

Post of the Week Award right here.

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Certainly nothing new, but he is surrounding himself with sharp people. Carter surrounding himself with bumpkins. Unfortunately with the current conditions in the States, change will have to wait. Many problems to fix first. Then, MAYBE he will start on his agenda. We shall see.
 

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Certainly nothing new, but he is surrounding himself with sharp people. Carter surrounding himself with bumpkins. Unfortunately with the current conditions in the States, change will have to wait. Many problems to fix first. Then, MAYBE he will start on his agenda. We shall see.

What was that Obama said? "I will not take money from current lobbyists, here have some Kool Aid". :drink: So what does he do? He takes money from the wives of lobbyists and from former lobbyists instead, and he took ALOT of it, too. But he's not lying to us, so it's all on the up n up.

What was that Obama said? "Lobbyists will NOT find a job in MY white house,...except for Keith Harper, Pam Gilbert, Theodore Shaw, David Hayes, Sally Katzen, Louisa Terrell, Mike Warren, Tom Donilon, and a host of others who are helping me "transition" and will most assuredly will land somehere in my white house. Oh but they quit their lobbying jobs, so I'm sure there won't be any conflicts, you look thirsty would you like some Kool Aid?" :drink:

Then comes the real "change"!

"I changed my mind and we can't do this stimulus package I promised"
"I changed my mind and I can't raise taxes on the rich."
"I changed my mind and can't give you that tax break either."
"I changed my mind and can't lower your health care premiums."
"I changed my mind and can't get you that welfare dough I was promising during my campaign"

Now THAT is change you CAN believe in.

"FREE KOOL AID FOR EVERYBODY!" :drink:
 

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we had peace under Clinton, all you need to do

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Will admit I ain't happy early on. But will wait for him to take office and see what he does. Did the same thing with Bush on both of his terms.
 

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What was that Obama said? "I will not take money from current lobbyists, here have some Kool Aid". :drink: So what does he do? He takes money from the wives of lobbyists and from former lobbyists instead, and he took ALOT of it, too. But he's not lying to us, so it's all on the up n up.

What was that Obama said? "Lobbyists will NOT find a job in MY white house,...except for Keith Harper, Pam Gilbert, Theodore Shaw, David Hayes, Sally Katzen, Louisa Terrell, Mike Warren, Tom Donilon, and a host of others who are helping me "transition" and will most assuredly will land somehere in my white house. Oh but they quit their lobbying jobs, so I'm sure there won't be any conflicts, you look thirsty would you like some Kool Aid?" :drink:

Then comes the real "change"!

"I changed my mind and we can't do this stimulus package I promised"
"I changed my mind and I can't raise taxes on the rich."
"I changed my mind and can't give you that tax break either."
"I changed my mind and can't lower your health care premiums."
"I changed my mind and can't get you that welfare dough I was promising during my campaign"

Now THAT is change you CAN believe in.

"FREE KOOL AID FOR EVERYBODY!" :drink:


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