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http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...reduce-the-workweek-to-30-hours?smid=fb-share


This is quite possibly the dumbest article I've ever seen.


We need a slow but steady move toward a 30-hour week for all workers. This will help solve a lot of connected problems: overwork, unemployment, overconsumption, high carbon emissions, low well-being, entrenched inequalities and the lack of time to live sustainably, to care for each other and simply to enjoy life.


I'm touched! Except someone needs to explain to me exactly how reducing work hours will possibly result in lower unemployment. Following that to its logical conclusion...if everyone worked zero hours, no one would be unemployed. Right?


People working shorter hours generally have a smaller ecological footprint. If you are tied to the workplace for 40-plus hours, you don’t have much time for the rest of your life. So things have to speed up. You travel by plane or car instead of train, foot or bike. Convenience-driven consumption takes a heavy toll on the environment.


So if I suddenly had a 30-hour work week instead of 40, then that means I'd just sit at home like a hermit, locked up in the house and not consume any more resources during those extra 10 free hours? Or would I be more likely to take one of those carbon-unfriendly vacations since I now have a lot more free time?


Some say it can’t be done because wages are too low. So let’s raise wages. No one should have to work long hours just to get by. Some say it’s uncompetitive.


Oh, ok. Let's just raise wages. No problem. Thank heavens there would be no side effects like higher prices for products or higher unemployment. Where would the money come from to compensate for this additional budget expense? Ahh, who cares? Minor details! I can't believe no one has ever thought of this before!


But there’s no match between average working hours and the strength of a country’s economy. The Netherlands and Germany have a shorter workweek than the United States and Britain. But the Dutch and German economies are stronger, not weaker.


Really? What metric supports the claim that Germany and Holland have better economies than the US? And does this bimbo remember what happened when the Frenchies tried to reduce their workweek to 35 hours? Nah, I didn't think so.

Here's your progressive economic mindset in a nutshell. Based in complete fantasy.
 

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People working shorter hours generally have a smaller ecological footprint.

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Where do these loons come up with this nonsense?
 

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the ny times lost me when the printed the cheney press release about WMDS, but they are right about this. With a 30 hour work week you can start a garden and raise your own food. Especially when you convince your boss you want a 3 day work week, 3 ten hour days, his choice. yous spouse can work three different days and you childcare bill goes away, your kid actually knows who you are and what your family values are instead of just seeing burnt out parents who are angry at the fun void their life has become, zombies.

The 30 hour work week means the widget factory has to hire more widget makers, easing unemployment.
 

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the ny times lost me when the printed the cheney press release about WMDS, but they are right about this. With a 30 hour work week you can start a garden and raise your own food. Especially when you convince your boss you want a 3 day work week, 3 ten hour days, his choice. yous spouse can work three different days and you childcare bill goes away, your kid actually knows who you are and what your family values are instead of just seeing burnt out parents who are angry at the fun void their life has become, zombies.

The 30 hour work week means the widget factory has to hire more widget makers, easing unemployment.

So those who go from 40 hours a week to 30 hours a week are going to lose 25% of their income? What about those who don't have a place to grow a garden (apartment/condo)? How do people compensate for the loss of income? 30hr workweek employees then become "part-time" and lose all "full-time" benefits, so how are they able to put away for pensions and 401k... and how are they able to afford it now that they lost 25% of their income? So instead of a nation of "full-time" employees, we will have part-time employees.

If this was to go into effect (which it wont) I will guarantee you that a high number of those forced to work 30hr weeks, will have to find another 30hr a week job. So instead of working just 40hrs as we have now, they will be working 60hrs a week, cause they cant afford to lose that 25% of their income.
 

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So those who go from 40 hours a week to 30 hours a week are going to lose 25% of their income? What about those who don't have a place to grow a garden (apartment/condo)? How do people compensate for the loss of income? 30hr workweek employees then become "part-time" and lose all "full-time" benefits, so how are they able to put away for pensions and 401k... and how are they able to afford it now that they lost 25% of their income? So instead of a nation of "full-time" employees, we will have part-time employees.

If this was to go into effect (which it wont) I will guarantee you that a high number of those forced to work 30hr weeks, will have to find another 30hr a week job. So instead of working just 40hrs as we have now, they will be working 60hrs a week, cause they cant afford to lose that 25% of their income.
:laugh: You axe to many questions.
 

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So those who go from 40 hours a week to 30 hours a week are going to lose 25% of their income? What about those who don't have a place to grow a garden (apartment/condo)? How do people compensate for the loss of income? 30hr workweek employees then become "part-time" and lose all "full-time" benefits, so how are they able to put away for pensions and 401k... and how are they able to afford it now that they lost 25% of their income? So instead of a nation of "full-time" employees, we will have part-time employees.

If this was to go into effect (which it wont) I will guarantee you that a high number of those forced to work 30hr weeks, will have to find another 30hr a week job. So instead of working just 40hrs as we have now, they will be working 60hrs a week, cause they cant afford to lose that 25% of their income.
No, they'll expect the employer to make up the difference.
 

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Damn, I better figure out how to garden and plant veggies etc in 18 degree weather today, thats right fucking 18 degrees today like it is here in this Commie Shithole
Chicago!
Can any Progressives help me with some ideas on what foods grow in cold weather?
I wait for your reply....im hungry!
 
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Damn, I better figure out how to garden and plant veggies etc in 18 degree weather today, thats right fucking 18 degrees today like it is here in this Commie Shithole
Chicago!
Can any Progressives help me with some ideas on what foods grow in cold weather?
I wait for your reply....im hungry!
You have to do what the northern Minnesotans will do it, can it, pickle it, or smoke it
 

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30 hours? I'm fucked
 

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Damn, I better figure out how to garden and plant veggies etc in 18 degree weather today, thats right fucking 18 degrees today like it is here in this Commie Shithole
Chicago!
Can any Progressives help me with some ideas on what foods grow in cold weather?
I wait for your reply....im hungry!


Organic popsicles
 

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the ny times lost me when the printed the cheney press release about WMDS, but they are right about this. With a 30 hour work week you can start a garden and raise your own food. Especially when you convince your boss you want a 3 day work week, 3 ten hour days, his choice. yous spouse can work three different days and you childcare bill goes away, your kid actually knows who you are and what your family values are instead of just seeing burnt out parents who are angry at the fun void their life has become, zombies.

The 30 hour work week means the widget factory has to hire more widget makers, easing unemployment.
Raise a garden??? If you want to know what people will do with more free time, observe a welfare mother for a few weeks.
 

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