Now that Obama has agreed to debate, how will he do? (Still no word on townhalls)

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Obama agrees to 3 debates with McCain

From the Associated Press

12:11 PM PDT, August 2, 2008

WASHINGTON — Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances before the political conventions, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.

On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones in the fall.

"We've committed to the three debates on the table," campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Saturday in an interview. "It's likely they will be the three appearances by the candidates this fall."

Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings.

The McCain campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The first debate planned by the commission is set for Sept. 26 in Oxford, Miss., three weeks after the Republican National Convention concludes Sept. 4. The Democratic convention is scheduled for Aug. 25-28.

The other presidential debates are set for Oct. 7 and Oct. 15 and the vice presidential debate for Oct. 2.

A day after Obama clinched the Democratic nomination in early June, McCain challenged Obama to a series of 10 town hall meetings with voters in the months leading up to the conventions. The candidates' campaigns began negotiations, telling reporters that they agreed in spirit to the joint appearances.

When the idea first came up from the McCain campaign that May, Obama was still battling Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Obama said then: "Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but ... if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that's something that I am going to welcome."

In June, Plouffe had suggested Obama-McCain meetings more along the lines of the historic Lincoln-Douglas debates. In 1858, during Abraham Lincoln's Senate campaign against Stephen Douglas, the candidates met seven times across Illinois. One spoke for an hour, the other for an hour and a half, and the first was allowed a half-hour rebuttal.

Plouffe said Saturday that Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois will be Obama's representative in further discussions with the commission.

The Commission on Presidential Debates, established in 1987, sponsors and produces debates featuring the presidential and vice presidential candidates of the major parties. The nonprofit and nonpartisan organization has sponsored all the presidential debates since 1988.
 

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As someone who had John McCain ranked about 7th during the primaries, I thought he did very well in the debates and said so on many occasions. Many other anti-McCain politicos agreed with me.

Someone needs to break in at Mile High and pull the plug on Obama's teleprompter so the world can have a huge laugh at his expense. I am dead serious, he is GOD AWFUL off script -- FAR WORSE than Bush on his worst days.

The things Obama says are so politically suicidal it's a wonder the Dems were stupid enough to nominate him.

John McCain will OWN Barack Obama in the debates! :103631605

No wonder Democrats are getting nervous about Obama's 'lead' in the polls....everyone thought he'd be 10 points ahead at this stage!

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As someone who had John McCain ranked about 7th during the primaries, I thought he did very well in the debates and said so on many occasions. Many other anti-McCain politicos agreed with me.

Someone needs to break in at Mile High and pull the plug on Obama's teleprompter so the world can have a huge laugh at his expense. I am dead serious, he is GOD AWFUL off script -- FAR WORSE than Bush on his worst days.

The Obamasays are so politically suicidal it's a wonder the Dems were stupid enough to nominate him.

JOHN McCain will OWN Barack Obama in the debates!

No wonder Democrats are getting nervous about Obama's 'lead' in the polls....everyone thought he'd be 10 points ahead at this stage!

:nohead:

You are in dreamland if you think Mccain has any chance of being elected President.
 

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You are in dreamland if you think Mccain has any chance of being elected President.

You're right, McCain won't be elected -- Obama and his radical MoveOn.org ideology will be REJECTED by the American people. :103631605

Obama can't win running his far left values and he can't win by moving away from them ("toward the center") because his recent flip-flops have been so transparently politically expedient that nobody trusts him anymore.

(There is a HUGE difference between changing your mind on an issue over an extended period of time, adapting to changing circumstances (John McCain) vs. a complete makeover within a matter of weeks or days (Barack Obama).

So how is Obama going to win?

Answer: he can't and won't because "community organizers" don't get elected president.

I don't know who's going to be sworn in next Jan, but it sure as hell ain't gonna be this radical clown.
 

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It will be interesting to see what the rules of engagement will be. Will it be unknown questions or predetermined. If they are predetermined, imho it will be nothing more than a dog and pony show and really boring, a lot of stumping rhetoric and the like.
 

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This is right up Obama's alley. Huge mistake for McCain to go up against a dynamic speaker like Obama. I wonder if McCain will wear a earpiece like W and have Rove feed him his answers.
 

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This is right up Obama's alley. Huge mistake for McCain to go up against a dynamic speaker like Obama. I wonder if McCain will wear a earpiece like W and have Rove feed him his answers.

"Dynamic speaker like Obama." :missingte:missingte

You obviously have mot heard him answer questions off prompter or step in constantly when he's doing townhalls -- Obama vs Obama. He is WORSE than Bush, admittedly not an easy feat!

lmfao!!
 

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I think Obama is the change this country needs to go in the right direction and McCain will seal the deal when the debates are done. Hell Obama might give him a job in his cabinet after he hands him the election on a silver platter :nohead:
 

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Change, change, change, change, change, change, change!!!

What CHANGE? What do you want to see CHANGED?

More terrorist attacks because Obama thinks terrorism should be treated a police matter -- like Clinton did?
More wealth redistribution tanking the economy and skyrocketing the national debt?
More punitive taxes and regulation forcing more businesses to relocate offshore?
More corrosive SF values?
More lascivious Hollywood values?
More "friends and allies" who love us; while our enemies plot against us?
More ceding our sovereignty to the UN?

What "change"? Do you have any idea what you're getting? You don't. Will Barack Obama lay out his agenda?

Of course not (but I will at a future date in great detail).

If he did, he wouldn't win a single state!

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This is right up Obama's alley. Huge mistake for McCain to go up against a dynamic speaker like Obama. I wonder if McCain will wear a earpiece like W and have Rove feed him his answers.

I think you need to contact the Obama campaign staff and let them know you are available to give them direction. You see McCain offered to debate BO in town hall meetings. You know the type of debates where actual citizens ask questions and candidates answer. The type of environment where you have to think on your feet and you can’t use teleprompters or have preplanned answers. But BO ran for cover as quickly as he could presumably because he knew he would look like a fool or was it on the advise of his campaign? He missed an opportunity to put McCain away early. You should have been there to tell him he made a mistake.
 

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I wonder why JoeC is always puking... I bet he himself cant stand the stench of his own words.... I wonder what does it takes to almost be sure of being sure all the time? Being crazy?

He really wants to believe what he's saying but knows he is in the wrong most of the time. I think he will come around eventually once he can think for himself and let his mind be free.
 

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I think you need to contact the Obama campaign staff and let them know you are available to give them direction. You see McCain offered to debate BO in town hall meetings. You know the type of debates where actual citizens ask questions and candidates answer. The type of environment where you have to think on your feet and you can’t use teleprompters or have preplanned answers. But BO ran for cover as quickly as he could presumably because he knew he would look like a fool or was it on the advise of his campaign? He missed an opportunity to put McCain away early. You should have been there to tell him he made a mistake.

Will he wear an earpiece with Karl Rove on the other end like W?? McCain would get killed in a debate and probably because he's going senile say something that will submarine the little hope he thought he had. This country wants real change and McCain is not the answer.
 

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Will he wear an earpiece with Karl Rove on the other end like W?? McCain would get killed in a debate and probably because he's going senile say something that will submarine the little hope he thought he had. This country wants real change and McCain is not the answer.

Just more rambling to divert from the subject. McCain offered, BO declined. Why? You don’t want to answer so you resort to Bush, Rove, ear piece. Mrs Mims would be proud.
 

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Just more rambling to divert from the subject. McCain offered, BO declined. Why? You don’t want to answer so you resort to Bush, Rove, ear piece. Mrs Mims would be proud.

The truth hurts huh? Obama would destroy McCain in a debate. McCain is an old bigot who is willing to do anything to change the tide.
 

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Isn't Obama a lawyer and teacher? You would think that would help him in debates.
 

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It’s official: Obama runs from town-hall debates

posted at 10:00 am on August 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama’s campaign made its distaste for free-style debates more or less official yesterday in their letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates. Team Obama only will agree to three debates, which has been the tradition through the last several presidential cycles, and all of them in the standard moderated format. He will not accept McCain’s challenge to meet him in a format where voters can ask the questions:

Obama’s campaign released a letter this afternoon from campaign manager David Plouffe to the Commission on Presidential Debates only agreeing to the traditional three sanctioned fall debates and single vice presidential forum.

“Due to the late date of the two parties’ nominating conventions, and the relatively short period between the end of the conventions and the first proposed debate, it is likely that the four commission debates will be the sole series of debates in the fall campaign,” Plouffe writes.

Not said is whether Obama is any longer considering meeting McCain for any town hall meetings outside the Commission’s debates. After initial indications in June that some would take place, it appears increasingly unlikely that the two candidates will meet on stage before the first debate at Ole Miss in September. McCain wanted to do one per week; Obama’s campaign responded by proposing one town hall on July Fourth and a Lincoln-Douglas-style appearance in August. McCain’s campaign rejected this counter-offer and discussions have since ceased as the campaign has increasingly turned negative.

The McCain campaign responded with a dose of sarcasm:

“We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he’ll reconsider.”

This news will surprise no one that has followed the number of gaffes Obama makes when speaking off the cuff. When the press finally got embarrassed by their fawning attitude and asked him tough questions in the Pennsylvania debate, Obama folded like a cheap suit against Hillary — and immediately stopped appearing in debates. He has provided an almost endless series of gaffes when speaking extemporaneously, and obviously wants no part of McCain in this format.

Either way, McCain can use this response to his advantage. He can continue appearing in town-hall forums and openly question why Obama lacks the courage to join him. In the traditional presidential debates, McCain can remind the national audience that Obama needed to hide behind the skirts of the media moderators rather than face voter questions directly. It’s a bonus for McCain in that sense, although he would have preferred getting Obama into his preferred format and watching him get exposed for the inexperienced naïf that Obama clearly is.
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Whatcha scared of coward? Oh, nevermind, we already know.

The guy isn't qualified to be dogcatcher!

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The truth hurts huh? Obama would destroy McCain in a debate. McCain is an old bigot who is willing to do anything to change the tide.

What change are you seeking?

Can you answer a simple questions or are you just as shifty as Borat?
 
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Obambi is going to do just fine in the debates. They will be entirely scripted with canned questions and responses that will have been memorized off of his talking points. Hope and Change and Hope and Change.

McCain will look old and feeble and stutter around like the senior citizen that he is.

If I was McCain I would only want one debate. Three times? Three times you say? Three times the American people are going to see him stutter and stammer around?

The only chance he would have in a debate is the town hall style debate. Obambi can't think on his feet. If anyone disputes this then they simply have not been paying attention.
 

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"Dynamic speaker like Obama." :missingte:missingte

You obviously have mot heard him answer questions off prompter or step in constantly when he's doing townhalls -- Obama vs Obama. He is WORSE than Bush, admittedly not an easy feat!

lmfao!!

Obama is a good speechmaker but a poor debater. In recent times only Stockdale & Quayle had less debating skills than Obama. McCain though not
charismatic is rather forceful in this format. My prediction is that Obama's performance will be dismal. He'll feel like the man Krisstofferson sang about in "One for the money"

I saw you standing there stunned in the spotlight
I saw the sweat streak the pain on your your face
Cause your caught like a fool in a circle of strangers
Who do you screw to get out of this place
 

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