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Indonesian school registration for "Barry Soetoro" (AP photo)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
JERUSALEM – Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Indonesia[/COLOR][/COLOR] at any point in his life?
That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]citizenship[/COLOR][/COLOR].
An investigation into Indonesian citizenship law and a review of Obama's biography and travels suggest the Illinois senator at one point may have been a citizen of Indonesia. That would not necessarily disqualify Obama to run for president, but it could raise loyalty concerns.
A 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced last week on the Daylife.com photographic website showing an image of Obama's registration card at Indonesia's Fransiskus Assisi school, a Catholic institution.
In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Hawaii[/COLOR][/COLOR]. His religion is listed as Muslim.
Jack Stokes, manager of media relations for the AP, confirmed to WND the picture is indeed an AP photo.
After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama later was enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school.
Obama's campaign did not return repeated WND phone calls and e-mail queries the past week asking for a clarification regarding the school documentation listing the presidential candidate's citizenship as Indonesian.
Obama spokesmen have stated the candidate is a natural-born citizen amid rumors he may have been born in his father's home country of [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Kenya[/COLOR][/COLOR], but the campaign has not addressed whether Obama became a citizen of Indonesia at any point.
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Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the presidential candidate was two years old. Dunham and Obama Sr. are reported to have later divorced. Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, and moved to Indonesia sometime between 1966 and 1967.
It was not clear whether Soetoro adopted Obama, either in Hawaii or in Indonesia, but there is strong circumstantial evidence that he did as far as Indonesian law was concerned.
In Indonesia, which was under tight rule in 1967, Obama clearly took on the last name of his stepfather in school registration documents. All Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards, or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, which needed to bear the student's legal name, which should be matched in public school registration filings.
Following his enrollment at the private Assisi school, Obama attended public schooling in Indonesia until he returned to Hawaii at age 10. According to Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian citizens in public schooling.
Obama arrived in Indonesia at about the age of five according to most accounts, although it was possible he arrived at the age of six, according to a few sources. If Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama at age five or younger, then Obama would automatically have become an Indonesian citizen according to the country's laws in the 1960's, which stipulated any child aged five or younger adopted by an Indonesian father is immediately granted Indonesian citizenship upon completion of the adoption process.
Lolo Soetoro could have adopted Obama in Hawaii, although such an adoption would not have necessarily been recognized by Indonesia.
Indonesian law at the time also did not recognize dual citizenship, meaning if Obama became Indonesian, then as far as that country was concerned, his U.S. citizenship was no longer recognized by Indonesia. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen.
In a revelation that raised a few eyebrows, Obama last April disclosed he traveled as a college student to Pakistan in 1981.
"I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college – I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," Obama reportedly stated at a fundraising event.
The senator had not previously discussed any [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]trip[/COLOR][/COLOR] to Pakistan, either in his books or in scores of policy talks regarding Pakistan.
Prompted by Obama's statements, ABC News contacted the presidential candidate's campaign, which affirmed that in 1981 – the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University – Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. Obama then went on to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from that country, the campaign said.
Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, said the campaign, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.
Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule. It was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance. It would have been easier for someone to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]passport[/COLOR][/COLOR].
If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship. The country's bylaws require any Indonesian citizen living abroad for more than five years to formally declare his intention to return, otherwise risk losing his citizenship status. The law does not necessarily mean Indonesian citizenship would be immediately lost. The law can be overruled by ministerial order.
Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he stated he did not have any former names.
 

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that maxillary oral surgical procedure you had scheduled today, it went okay? Incredible that a surgeon would post the same day (at a gambling forum no less) following such an extensive surgical procedure.

:nohead:
 

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that maxillary oral surgical procedure you had scheduled today, it went okay? Incredible that a surgeon would post the same day (at a gambling forum no less) following such an extensive surgical procedure.

:nohead:


Extensive....Surgical Procedures start at 6am and we were finished by 730am....Young gal looks great...I have already seen 3 other pt's today......

its called hard work...barman knows about that:nohead:

And this is a POLITICAL forum......LOL
 

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you a dds or an oral and maxillofacial surgeon
 

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btw no its NOT a political forum, its a GAMBLING forum--you visit the forum cause you GAMBLE. The politics are just a sub-forum created by the owners.
 

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Sounds like they wrote whatever they needed to write to get the wee Obama into an indonesian school with the minimum of hassle.


Still no scans of his original birth documentation yet though, even though other people from Hawaii born in the early 1960s have had no problems getting a scan of an original.


There must be something in the original documents that they don't want released, at least until after 4th Nov anyway.
 

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you a dds or an oral and maxillofacial surgeon


I am a DMD.....What r u the CIA?? Who are you?? What do you do??

You obvioulsy don't know anything about the profession as ALL oral surgeons are either DDS OR DMD's....I happen to practice with 2 oral surgeons, a periodontist, and a endoddontist..Its called a group PRACTICE

NEXT........wow ignorant people are abound

I am giving you all of my info and you have 4 posts TOTAL???


You are a GHOST.....Check my percentages of posts OVER 90% are on the political forum and the Financial forums


You are on the ignore list.....Again multiple questions for you to answer OR just continue to be a ghost
 

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lol, you're a GP pal. You're are NO maxillofacial surgeon (i'm talking specialist). You stated you had a 'leforte osteotomy' surgery booked in the am--- you wrote this to make you appear important. You drill and fill pal, this morning you didn't engage in any 'extensive surgery', you likely did an occlusal resin on the young gal or removed her wisdom teeth........did a few more fillings then got back on the internet and posted this dribble.

that procedure you stated you did, is not done by GP's , its done in a hospital setting by a specialist under GA.

i'm in the profession, sorry but I had to expose you. If you challenge me and want to prove i'm wrong, YOU know how easily we can resolve this.
 

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Wow, even at age 6 Barry was scheming to cover up his true Birthplace by putting Hawaii down on the form. That's foresight. I guess we won't be moon barking at the Birth Place any more. We now have another reason to bark at the Moon while McCain gets sliced and diced tommorrow by this Muslim Non Citizen, who has been the most vetted candidate in HISTORY.
 

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is latti italian for the plumber?
 

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Calling you out

lol, you're a GP pal. You're are NO maxillofacial surgeon (i'm talking specialist). You stated you had a 'leforte osteotomy' surgery booked in the am--- you wrote this to make you appear important. You drill and fill pal, this morning you didn't engage in any 'extensive surgery', you likely did an occlusal resin on the young gal or removed her wisdom teeth........did a few more fillings then got back on the internet and posted this dribble.

that procedure you stated you did, is not done by GP's , its done in a hospital setting by a specialist under GA.

i'm in the profession, sorry but I had to expose you. If you challenge me and want to prove i'm wrong, YOU know how easily we can resolve this.


Yes you are probably a "male assistant"...you are in the profession my ass, but you didn't know that an Oral surgeon is either a DDS or DMD??? I do not write anything to look important....

There were 3 Dr's in the OR this morning, not including the anesthesiologist.....And YES I was operating on a female age 19...She was a special needs pt(do you even know what that means??) from Bolivia. I actually volunteer one Monday every month for special needs pt's in the OR.....Most people actually appreciate what I do for them

The OS did the Laforte 1....I performed the occlusal equlibration and internal fixation.....the periodontist performed a free gingival graft #'s 12-14

WHY in this day and age do people have to be ASSES??


Tell me what do you "do" in the "industry"?

"Industry" as if this were a Lounge or nightclub


Hey pal do yourself a favor and take your 5 posts and go back to your "industry"

And please tell me where "I" said I was an OS?? I said I had a surgery in the am, which I did a do every month...

CRICKETS is what I expect to hear from you
 

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this is cool ive never seen two dentists throw down before
 

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And Ricbof...There are multiple questions you AVOIDED from earlier in the day

Please try and answer, instead of just slinging s*it against the wall in hopes it will stick....

You guessed wrong about this doc.....Been doing surgeries for almost 10 years

Actually did the most out of any resident in 2001 at Monmouth medical
 

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Yes you are probably a "male assistant"...you are in the profession my ass, but you didn't know that an Oral surgeon is either a DDS or DMD??? I do not write anything to look important....

There were 3 Dr's in the OR this morning, not including the anesthesiologist.....And YES I was operating on a female age 19...She was a special needs pt(do you even know what that means??) from Bolivia. I actually volunteer one Monday every month for special needs pt's in the OR.....Most people actually appreciate what I do for them

The OS did the Laforte 1....I performed the occlusal equlibration and internal fixation.....the periodontist performed a free gingival graft #'s 12-14

WHY in this day and age do people have to be ASSES??


Tell me what do you "do" in the "industry"?

"Industry" as if this were a Lounge or nightclub


Hey pal do yourself a favor and take your 5 posts and go back to your "industry"

And please tell me where "I" said I was an OS?? I said I had a surgery in the am, which I did a do every month...

CRICKETS is what I expect to hear from you

yes, thank you. The ORAL SURGEON did it, just as i said. You are a GP. That kind of surgery is out of your realm, sir. You posted in another thread with barman that 'you had a Leforte osteotomy surgery' in the morning and left it at that. Clear for anyone to assume that you'd be doing the surgery. I had to clear things up, thks for coming clean.

i know you gp's often suffer from the 'lack of important syndrome', especially in dental :nohead:

good night

i thought you had me on ignore? %^_
 

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Are you ever gonna answer questions or just act like a child?

And Ricbof...There are multiple questions you AVOIDED from earlier in the day


And again I did have a Laforte 1 in the am....what part of your brain isn't reading that

And every month I have virtually the same surgery...sometimes its cleft lip....sometimes MR pt's

Just as you do not have to list everytime you clean a window:shocked:
 

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just post your physician id numbers and settle this shit


First off he is neither a physician OR a DMD OR DDS

Maybe I should post my DEA number....That'll go over with the state board pretty well:nohead:


Anywho enough brain cells wasted on this chump

I have been posting on therx for almost 5 years and personally know many members......tatehill200, spreadbeater...if anyone really cares which they don't just ask them
 

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