NorthCoast Records Thread

[savage1]

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Wow-Thanks so much, alcatraz, for posting that line of bullshit that would make Pinocchio especially the part about the Late Phones which so far have amassed a deficit of $9600 for any client who followed according to rating at $100 a unit!!
I am going o]to email this to Phil Steele right now in its entirety with some choice comments!
Thanks again for sharing this!!

 

[savage1]

Wow-Thanks so much, alcatraz, for posting that line of bullshit that would make Pinocchio especially the part about the Late Phones which so far have amassed a deficit of $9600 for any client who followed according to rating at $100 a unit!!
I am going o]to email this to Phil Steele right now in its entirety with some choice comments!
Thanks again for sharing this!!

Here is what I just emailed Phil Steele:

Suffice it to say, Phil Steele, if I was your deceased dad and it was possible, I would

come out of my grave and beat the ever-living shit for what you posted to your clients,

especially the fucking, outrageous lie about Late Phones, unless you consider a DOCUMENTED MINUS of $9604 a positive!!

Let's be fucking real here:

The REAL reason you are lowering the price so much is that virtually no one will buy it above that price is because this season

as well as the last two and just about every year the picks are and have been a BIGTIME LOSING PROPOSITION!!

 

[savage1]

Here is part 2 of what I just emailed Phil Steele:

Whether you realize it or not, the fact that you lowering the price but offering it for only a few months is a clear

indication sign of desperation and fear on your part that no one is really interested in your service and why should they for a service

which loses year after year!!

More importantly, you seem to live in a world so far removed from reality that you don't realize that unlike you, most folks

don't have ocd about betting on football and have other priorities such as would you believe their FAMILIES!!

Perhaps you should honestly and objectively ask yourself whether it is reasonable to expect would-be subscribers to stop

everything they are doing in February to send you money for football that starts in late summer when the picks lose year after year!!

This is essentially the same kind of convoluted thinking on your part by threatening and begging people to

buy your weekly newsletter subscription now for next season to save $5.

You remind me of the proverbial old fighter who keeps losing and doesn't know when to quit!!

I will give you a lock FOR FREE that applies to you!!

It is that you are badly in need of professional help in order to see reality as it is rather than what you imagine and project it to be!!

Rest be assured that this email as well as the one I sent a few minutes ago will be posted for all to see!!

 

[savage1]

For those who don't know Powerweep has a 2* on KC which means whether it is a star-rated play or not, NC's pick will be KC tomorrow.

 

[alcatraz]

2 kc marquee over

 

[savage1]

Steele/NC end the season with a "heartbreaking and tough loss" on KC.

I will post final records for the season tomorrow.

Also, I noted on the comp. line there is no recap as to how the SB props did-I wonder why not!!

I didn't write them down when alcatraz posted them, but did anyone keep track them, and if so, how many games under 500 were they??

tia

 

[RidgeRider]

What Northcoast charges for their lifetime of losing picks is borderline criminal. They lose every single year!

 

[savage1]

What Northcoast charges for their lifetime of losing picks is borderline criminal. They lose every single year!

To be fair, a masochist who plays the game according to scales and shells out money each year to get them would strongly disagree!! lol

 

[savage1]

Here we go with the final recaps for the season which includes the 2 unit blossom KC:

The overall and final record is college sides 47-46 and totals 34-31.

Not great but a lot better than the previous seasons when they finished under 40%!!

The NFL picks g0 39-45-1.

The cost of service for a non-newsletter subscriber was 6124.

A player who bet these games at $100 a unit according to ratings with the cost of service factored in LOST MINUS $ 9,475.

That brings the cumulative loss for the last three seasons to a DOCUMENTED 42,975 including the price of service!!

If Stool/NC want to see a silver lining in all of this, I guess they can say that their clients lost "only" $9500 this year as opposed to

last year when they lost $13,500 and especially the year before when they lost 20K!! lol

 

[savage1]

For those who are interested, after careful consideration and thought, I have decided that beginning this season, I will

no longer be maintaining and updating this thread effective this season!!

First of all, just about every sports gambler who has been around for a while realizes that Northcoast and Phil Steele are a

horrible service year in and year out despite their lies to the contrary!!

In addition, just about everyone knows that their marketing and promotions are based on lies and deception and in reality

are not promotions at all.

Most importantly, for the last 15 months, I have become very involved with Twitter/X politically speaking on a daily basis,

bringing some badly needed balance to a forum where Trump fellators pretty much prevail!!

To summarize,I have been following, documenting, posting plays and doing commentary on Phil Steele and NC at various forums

for 20-plus years and for reasons stated above as well as some other reasons, I have decided to move on!!

Thanks to all who read and participated in this thread and the best of luck whatever you do with the NC Late Phone Plays this

season and forthose to come!!

 

[Vikingsfan]

For those who are interested, after careful consideration and thought, I have decided that beginning this season, I will

no longer be maintaining and updating this thread effective this season!!

First of all, just about every sports gambler who has been around for a while realizes that Northcoast and Phil Steele are a

horrible service year in and year out despite their lies to the contrary!!

In addition, just about everyone knows that their marketing and promotions are based on lies and deception and in reality

are not promotions at all.

Most importantly, for the last 15 months, I have become very involved with Twitter/X politically speaking on a daily basis,

bringing some badly needed balance to a forum where Trump fellators pretty much prevail!!

To summarize,I have been following, documenting, posting plays and doing commentary on Phil Steele and NC at various forums

for 20-plus years and for reasons stated above as well as some other reasons, I have decided to move on!!

Thanks to all who read and participated in this thread and the best of luck whatever you do with the NC Late Phone Plays this

season and forthose to come!!

Thank you for your efforts. I as well have been betting on sports and active on forums for years. You and I have had multiple conversations on this forum and other forums over the years.

There a 2 services that our worth the money imo after 30 years of betting on sports and none of those services are posted here.

Thanks again Savage1. Best of luck.

 

[savage1]

Thank you for your efforts. I as well have been betting on sports and active on forums for years. You and I have had multiple conversations on this forum and other forums over the years.

There a 2 services that our worth the money imo after 30 years of betting on sports and none of those services are posted here.

Thanks again Savage1. Best of luck.

Thanks, Vikingfan for the well wishes!!

Yes, you and I go back to the Stone Age and have seen it all with sports services, the good(very little), the bad, and the ugly.

We have crossed paths at many different forums also!!

I have always considered you a class act as well as a huge contributor with your posting of picks, commentary and so much more!!

And I agree with you about your commentary that day in and day out and OVER TIME, that is all that matters, the number of services that

are consistent over the long haul and will produce an actual profit when the cost of service is factored in.

Obviously, as I have documented Phil Steele/NC is not one of them, nor is LOSER Lang as Pimp has shown with his incredible work

and documentation over the min years!!

Anyways, that's it for now, and suffice it to say that when you post something, I will read it because I know it will be worth reading and

something of substance!!

Eake care and the best of luck!!

 

[Sportstalks]

ONe thing i always liked about Cappersmall they did not allow and selling sites in there, or anyone trying to sell plays , and to be honest we had some solid cappers there no need to sell plays when you had so many that did well

yeah i remember that too it was nice to just share picks and info without all the selling stuff and there really were a lot of solid cappers who did well just helping each other out

 

[Sportstalks]

Savage1, I remember reading some of your stuff about Northcoast. Are all of the historical posts from these forums gone now? that is ashame, if so. i particularly enjoyed reading most of Carlitosway posts. They were quite good I thought. If they are gone, that's a shame. I used to post at Cappersmall.com. Last couple of years, it really went down. Now I can't even get into it. It looks like they have discontinued it. Anyone know what happened to it.

yeah it’s gone now from what i can tell a lot of the old posts and history are lost which is a shame there were some great posters like carlitosway and others and cappersmall just faded the last couple years before they finally shut it down

 

[RidgeRider]

So these are Northcoast Sports which is Phil Steal's Documented College Football Records for the last 3 years as documented by The Sports Montor which grades very biased towards handicappers.

2022 - College Football Regular Season - 31-55-1 - 36.05%
2023 - College Football Regular Season - 38-51-3 - 42.70%
2024 - College Football Regular Season - 43-46- 48.31%

He's lost 40 more games than he's won the last 3 years and he picks very few games each week.

The guy certifiably SUCKS at picking college football games. Maybe one of the worst of all time!

 

[savage1]

So these are Northcoast Sports which is Phil Steal's Documented College Football Records for the last 3 years as documented by The Sports Montor which grades very biased towards handicappers.

2022 - College Football Regular Season - 31-55-1 - 36.05%
2023 - College Football Regular Season - 38-51-3 - 42.70%
2024 - College Football Regular Season - 43-46- 48.31%

He's lost 40 more games than he's won the last 3 years and he picks very few games each week.

The guy certifiably SUCKS at picking college football games. Maybe one of the worst of all time!

Thanks for posting those records!!

My own record-keeping is pretty much in line with those figures!!!

Steele prides himself on college football and he and his staff write mounds of information to support their picks from every possible

fucking angle known to man, and yet they fail week after week, month after month and year after year!!

Listening to their recaps on the comp. line, you would think that they are one of the best in the country!!

ps Even though I personally won't be posting picks and keeping Steele/NC records anymore, I will monitor this thread and/or any other

opened to pick up the slack and will comment when appropriate!!

 

[gander1]

So these are Northcoast Sports which is Phil Steal's Documented College Football Records for the last 3 years as documented by The Sports Montor which grades very biased towards handicappers.

2022 - College Football Regular Season - 31-55-1 - 36.05%
2023 - College Football Regular Season - 38-51-3 - 42.70%
2024 - College Football Regular Season - 43-46- 48.31%

He's lost 40 more games than he's won the last 3 years and he picks very few games each week.

The guy certifiably SUCKS at picking college football games. Maybe one of the worst of all time!

Don't look now guys but Northcoast Sports actually has an "A+" rating with the Better Business Bureau. You can look it up!

 

[savage1]

Don't look now guys but Northcoast Sports actually has an "A+" rating with the Better Business Bureau. You can look it up!

The A+ rating sure as hell isn't for their picks!! lol

Don't forget also that the Better Business Bureau in a given location is made up of human beings whose ratings can possibly be

purchased if the price is right!!

More importantly, who should one believe, folks like me and others who have been following and tracking Steele/NC for many years,

documenting their records, lies, deceptions, deceptive, misleading, slimy, and sleazy advertising, or an anonymous Better Business Bureau,

or for that matter what SteeleNC says about themselves!! lol

 

[LonghornMM]

Savage, I'm going to miss your Northcoast postings. Fading Steele's plays is a can't miss profit.

Would you or someone else happen to have his 2025 college football guide that you can post here? I like to look at the returning starters portion of that. Thanks.

 

[bige]

FROM BRAD POWER
* means they return their starting QB.
Team Off Def Total
Arizona State 7* 9 16
Cle son 8* 8 16
Illinois 8* 8 16
Oklahoma 7 8 15
Alabama 6 8 14
Baylor 9* 5 14
Delaware 6* 8 14
Florida 7* 7 14
Penn State 8* 6 14
Pittsburgh 7* 7 14
Texas A&M 7* 7 14
Vanderbilt 6* 8 14
Buffalo 5 8 13
Hawaii 6 7 13
Stanford 5 8 13
Boise State 7* 6 13
Middle Tennessee 7* 6 13
Mississippi State 6* 7 13
Texas Tech 5* 8 13
Auburn 6 6 12
Notre Dame 6 6 12
San Diego State 4 8 12
Boston College 6* 6 12
Georgia Southern 6* 6 12
Kennesaw State 4* 8 12
Navy 7* 5 12
Rutgers 8* 4 12
USF 6* 6 12
Air Force 8 3 11
Duke 6 5 11
Missouri 4 7 11
Tennessee 3 8 11
Wisconsin 5 6 11
Arizona 5* 6 11
Iowa State 7* 4 11
Kansas State 6* 5 11
Michigan 6* 5 11
San Jose State 6* 5 11
TCU 5* 6 11
Toledo 7* 4 11
Utah 6* 5 11
UTSA 9* 2 11
Indiana 5 5 10
Iowa 6 4 10
Minnesota 5 5 10
Oregon State 5 5 10
Central Michigan 4* 6 10
Cincinnati 4* 6 10
Georgia Tech 5* 5 10
Houston 6* 4 10
NC State 6* 4 10
Northwestern 4* 6 10
UL-Monroe 5* 5 10
Wyoming 8* 2 10
Army 4 5 9
BYU 5 4 9
Coastal Carolina 5 4 9
Miami (FL) 4 5 9
Texas 3 6 9
Troy 4 5 9
Virginia 3 6 9
Connecticut 6* 3 9
Louisiana Tech 5* 4 9
Michigan State 5* 4 9
Missouri State 6* 3 9
Nebraska 5* 4 9
OLD Dominion 4* 5 9
SMU 6* 3 9
South Carolina 5* 4 9
UTEP 5* 4 9
Appalachian State 3 5 8
Georgia 4 4 8
Louisville 4 4 8
South Alabama 5 3 8
UL-Lafayette 4 4 8
Arkansas 4* 4 8
James Madison 4* 4 8
LSU 4* 4 8
Temple 6* 2 8
USC 5* 3 8
California 3 4 7
Colorado 3 4 7
Fresno State 4 3 7
Kentucky 3 4 7
North Texas 3 4 7
Ohio State 4 3 7
Rice 3 4 7
Syracuse 3 4 7
East Carolina 5* 2 7
New Mexico State 4* 3 7
Ohio 5* 2 7
Tulsa 3* 4 7
Florida State 1 5 6
Maryland 3 3 6
Miami (OH) 0 6 6
North Carolina 4 2 6
Oregon 2 4 6
Texas State 2 4 6
Tulane 2 4 6
Wake Forest 1 5 6
Washington 4 2 6
Western Michigan 3 3 6
Akron 4* 2 6
Colorado State 4* 2 6
FIU 4* 2 6
Georgia State 3* 3 6
Kansas 3* 3 6
Ball State 2 3 5
Bowling Green 5 0 5
Eastern Michigan 3 2 5
Jacksonville State 3 2 5
Kent State 2 3 5
Massachusetts 3 2 5
Nevada 3 2 5
Oklahoma State 1 4 5
Ole Miss 3 2 5
Southern Miss 3 2 5
UCLA 4 1 5
UAB 3* 2 5
Virginia Tech 2* 3 5
New Mexico 1 3 4
Northern Illinois 1 3 4
Utah State 1 3 4
Arkansas State 3* 1 4
Sam Houston State 4* 0 4
Charlotte 1 2 3
Florida Atlantic 2 1 3
Marshall 2 1 3
UCF 1 2 3
Washington State 3 0 3
West Virginia 2 1 3
Western Kentucky 1 2 3
Memphis 1 1 2
UNLV 1 1 2
Purdue 1 0 1