north korea scares me

[RobFunk]

why are we chasing around a bunch of lunatics with machine guns and bazookas when in north korea they have like 3 projectiles capable of reaching the west coast of the US and enough plutonium to wipe out california +, to top it off they have a complete mad man with his finger over the button.

its ok! lets revamp SS, bring in more immagrants pad the rich's income with some tax cuts and not just break the debt record but for good measure completely shatter it. eventually ill take my finger out of my nose.

if california falls off the map, will you rightys still support the cowboy and indian effort in iraq and everything else this administration has done

 

[bblight]

Rob, go spend a year on the DMZ in South Korea and then come back here and tell me that you want to start a war with the North Koreans.

Those people have their heads screwed on backwards. The governemnt has them believing all kinds of cockeyed BS - they are truely paranoid and nuts- Just leave them marginalized and isolated up there in the coldest place in the universe.

 

[docmercer--banned]

well said ...

Jung is the biggest consumer of Cognac in the world .... I can see him getting drunk and having a pissing match w/Bush and deciding to "let one fly"

Talk about an oppressed nation ... check out the satellite photos at nite of North and South Koreas .. South is all lite up and the North is completely dark .. their folks are starving to death and literally eating grass

again, well said

 

[mr73551]

It's funny, for the ignorant, like Robfunk, North Korea just appeared.

Maybe the time to have done something about this was BEFORE they had the nukes and the missiles. Like say - during the Clinton administration?

But our good buddy Bill was too busy giving the communists nuclear technology in exchange for campaign cash.

While Clinton's chief fund raiser remained a fugitive from justice hiding out in a communist nation. Nuclear technology continuously disappeared from Los Alamos.

But I'm sure the whole thing was just a "personal" matter or a vast right-wing conspiracy and it will never come back to haunt us.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/players/huang.htm

Here is the full list of Clinton Criminals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/players/playerlist.htm


The Cox report on nuclear technology given/stolen to China.

http://www.house.gov/hunter/CoxReport.htm

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[font=Arial,Helvetica]security or ongoing criminal investigations.[/font]

[font=Arial,Helvetica]1. The People’s Republic of China (PRC) has stolen design information on the United[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]States’ most advanced thermonuclear weapons.[/font]

[font=Arial,Helvetica]In addition, in the mid-1990s the PRC stole, possibly from a U.S. national weapons[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]laboratory, classified thermonuclear weapons information that cannot be identified in this[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]unclassified Report. Because this recent espionage case is currently under investigation[/font]
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[font=Arial,Helvetica]The W-88, a miniaturized, tapered warhead, is the most sophisticated nuclear weapon[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]the United States has ever built. In the U.S. arsenal, it is mated to the D-5[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]submarine-launched ballistic missile carried aboard the Trident nuclear submarine. The[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]United States learned about the theft of the W-88 Trident D-5 warhead information, as[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]well as about the theft of information regarding several other nuclear weapons, in 1995.[/font] [font=Arial,Helvetica]The PRC has stolen U.S. design information and other classified information for neutron[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]bomb warheads. The PRC stole classified U.S. information about the neutron bomb from[/font]
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[font=Arial,Helvetica]information on the neutron bomb in 1996.[/font]

 

[docmercer--banned]

May already have two nuclear bombs and controls the fourth largest military in the world -- one million heavily armed forces only miles away from nearly 40,000 U.S. troops in South Korea?

Kim Jong Il also loves to drink a certain Hennessey cognac that sells for $630 a bottle in Korea. "He is the largest customer over the last 10 years, averaging between $650,000 and $720,000 a year in purchases -- while the average [North] Korean earns only about $900 a year."

He has a collection of some 20,000 videotapes, including the James Bond movie collection. "He is fascinated by the media and in fact cruises the Web as well," he says.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Mr:

Yeah, and meanwhile Reagan and Bush were arming Hussein to the max and refused to take him out in 1991 as "not worth losing American lives over .."

Wake up ... stop blaming Clinton .. the USA has been the biggest supplier of arms to the rest of the world before Clinton took office and to blame Clinton for N Korea is an easy way out ... with or without Clinton they would have obtained nukes ...

 

[RobFunk]

left right i dont care i knew all of that. address the concern if your party is so much better. you can finger point all day. meanwhile were chasing around a bunch of kids with ak47s hiding in apartments. this is what we meant post election day when we said "we lost, congrats. now show us something"

i really dont give a fvck about a free iraq it does zip for america. huge waste of time, money and lives

 

[docmercer--banned]

robfunk:

get up to speed on the Bush history with Unocal and the Taliban back in the last 1990's when he was gov of Texas ...
the plans to invade Iraq were way on the table before 9-11 ...

 

[docmercer--banned]

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The North Koreans believe they will have an easier time negotiating with a new administration headed by Sen. John F. Kerry, who has said publicly he would begin direct U.S.-North Korea talks if elected president. The Bush administration has rejected bilateral talks with Pyongyang, based on North Korea's violation of the 1994 Agreed Framework, which was a product of similar one-on-one talks.



The possibility of holding another round of the six-party talks this month had been discussed at the urging of U.S., Chinese and South Korean officials.

Secretary of State Colin Powell is traveling to Asia this week where he will tell China to use its influence on North Korea to prevent Pyongyang from conducting any provocative actions prior to the Nov. 2 elections. There are concerns that North Korean may conduct a missile flight test or some type of military activity to try to affect the outcome of the elections.

However, North Korea's communist government rejected any further talks with the Bush administration, asserting that the administration has adopted "hostile" policy positions toward North Korea.

Intelligence officials were worried recently that North Korea was preparing to conduct a missile flight test in violation of its self-imposed testing moratorium.

However, the preparations appeared to be part of a North Korean effort to test U.S. sensors. Two U.S. Aegis-equipped destroyers have begun patrolling waters near North Korea as part of a new missile defense system being developed by the United States.

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[docmercer--banned]

Robfunk:

The Unocal Pipeline, a 1,005 mile oil pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan. As late as August of 2001, just prior to the 9/11 crimes against humanity, the Bush administration was negotiating with the Taliban, trying to establish stability that would allow American oil ventures to proceed safely. At the receiving end of the pipeline is Ken Lay and the ubiquitous Enron. At the other end is the Taliban, whom the Bush Administration had

given $43 Million supposedly to eradicate opium-poppy cultivation. If this is true, doesn't it illuminate why the US attacked Afghanistan rather than Saudi Arabia, where most of the alleged terrorists came from? The Unocal pipeline brings up more names. Halliburton, the pipeline construction firm would be a huge benefactor. Halliburton was once headed by Dick Cheney, and was also a generous contributor to the Bush-Cheney campaign. Lawrence Lindsey, a Bush economic adviser, has been an Enron consultant. Bush has appointed Zalmay Khalilzad as his special envoy to Afghanistan is a former Unocal consultant, and Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan's interim leader was also a Unocal consultant. There are too many connections to be coincidental.<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O> </O>

 

[RobFunk]

scary stuff doc. if NK had oil guess where we would be? christ, and itd actaully make sense considering the fact they could make us 'the proud 48'.

it doesnt work that way gotta restore order in the country against the wild hand gun and makeshift bomb kids so we can have an election there and mastermind oil deals when i wont even be president at the time.

yeah. once again the bush administration fighting father time. hoping it all happens before the 4 years are up. what a high. camp david looks like tele tubbies compared to this rush.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Good luck on this one ...

Heck, we will still be fighting one skirmish after another next year at this time in Iraq ... and Israel has the F16s loaded up and ready to launch against the Iran nuke reactors anytime soon ...

No way I can not see the draft becoming part of the equation fairly soon

 

[WildBill]

Fortunately North Korea still hasn't proven they can shoot one missle that goes over 100 kilometers straight. That is why everyone talks about how Seoul is within normal artillery fire of some big guns. That way if Mr. Kim want to shoot at someone and the guns misfire as usual, who cares there are 15 million people in the area and someone will get hit.

I don't fear him much personally, as I always say I think we have enough to worry about in our own houses for personal safety. My guess is the stuff he has doesn't work right. If he has the material for 7 or 8 bombs as all these people claim, why hasn't he had a test explosion yet? If you want to get the other side to talk you stop the BS about being unspecific and you blow some s**t up. Then the other side figures out you mean business. Even if it is your one and only bomb, testing it does you worlds of good in negotiating than just giving the impression you have some stocked away. For this reason I think Mr. Kim either is under the impression that the stuff may not work or they did try and it didn't work. Think about it.

 

[Marco]

Hey guys, be patient....Dubya has four more years.....there is plenty of time to open up a front and ad-lib an invasion of NK...

This time though, it looks like the opponent might actually be able to fight back......awful tough to advance on someone who has a gun that leaves a mushroom in its wake and just guess that he either won't use it or it isn't loaded....

 

[bblight]

If we go to war with NK, send Eskimos - that place is to damned cold for normal Human beings.

Also, the ROKs are pretty damned good soldiers - I don't think NK would invade SK just because of the ROKs.

Hey Wil - do you rmember any ROKs in Vietnam - what the hell outfit wore a palm tree shoulder patch? It's driving me crazy that I can't remember