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Tony Romo, Fantasy Football, and the NFL's Bizarre Hypocrisies on Gambling

By Ryan Glasspiegel
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This week’s Glass Half Empty podcast guest is David Purdum, who reports on gambling for ESPN. We spent much of the time discussing Tony Romo, who was irate at the way in which the NFL put the kibosh on a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas that he’d been organizing, and tried to figure out where exactly the NFL draws the line in terms of gambling and casino affiliations. We also talked about his career, and the trajectory which led to his recent ESPN the Magazine cover story on NBA Commissioner Adam Silver.

As Romo pointed out in an interview with Colin Cowherd earlier this week, it’s bizarre that players are not permitted to have financial relationships with casinos, but the Lions just inked a club-level sponsorship with MGM Grand. That this is allowed is actually a relatively recent development, which went into place in 2012. But, didn’t Detroit executives have to associate with casino operators to get that deal done?

“I don’t have an answer for that,” Purdum said on the podcast. “It’s very tough to comprehend from that standpoint. The front office personnel — they could get in touch with a trainer, find out about an injury — they have access to more inside information than players do. That’s a really tough one. As far as all the hypocrisy of the NFL’s accused of when it comes to gambling — and there is a lot — that’s [one of the most] difficult to comprehend.”

I also asked my friend Justin Fielkow, who is a practicing attorney and has written on NFL Labor issues and the legality of fantasy sports, about this distinction, asking him to try and discern where the league was coming from here. “The history of professional sports is replete with gambling-related scandals involving players or officials, whether it be the Black Sox, Pete Rose, various NCAA point shaving plots, or even former official Tim Donaghy using insider information to place bets on NBA games,” he said. “The list goes on. Each of these instances threatens the integrity of and the public’s confidence in professional sports. By prohibiting players from affiliating with casinos, the NFL is attempting to insulate itself from possible gambling-related issues.”


“It very well may be hypocritical for the NFL to forbid players from affiliating with casinos while permitting teams to create similar alliances, but it appears the league is drawing a distinction related to the degrees of separation from potential scandal,” Fielkow continued. “For example, while a player tied up in a gambling scheme could have a large effect on the outcome of an event (e.g. a quarterback purposefully throwing a game), a team executive would have a harder time creating a similar effect. That’s not to say, however, that the NFL’s policy or distinction is necessarily on point, nor anything regarding the NFL’s inconsistent enforcement of the policy as it relates to its own players. Though it won’t say so, the Romo saga appears to be where the NFL has drawn its (admittedly arbitrary) line in the sand.”
Romo’s was not the only fantasy football convention that was affected. The Fantasy Sports Combine (FSC) takes place the weekend of July 17th at the Wynn in Las Vegas. While the conference is still scheduled to go on, current players like Von Miller and Brandon Marshall had to pull out. Marshall seemed upset, but wouldn’t go into much detail. “I have some strong feelings on it, personally,” he said Wednesday, via NJ.com. “But I’m going to keep those to myself right now. I just got here, so I’m going to wait a couple more months before I rock the boat.”

(On the off chance Marshall reads this, consider this an open invitation to rock the boat on the Glass Half Empty podcast.)

The reason that the FSC is able to continue whereas Romo’s had to shut down is that they had lined up many more big names who weren’t current players. It wasn’t entirely clear how Romo’s event would earn its revenue back when, according to Darren Rovell, players were going to combine to make over $1 million. FSC organizer Bo Brownstein tells TBL that his event, in addition to the $895 price of admission for “general manager” level and $7,500 for “owners,” is sponsored by T-Mobile, Draft Kings, and Ciroc. “Nobody has really posed the question — what was the health of the Romo event before the NFL canceled it?” Brownstein asked. “I actually believe the NFL did Tony Romo a favor.”

ESPN’s Adam Schefter, along with notable personalities like Mike Ditka, Mike Shanahan, Matthew Berry, and Bonnie Bernstein, remains a participant at the FSC. “The NFL believes that it has a longstanding rule that prohibits its employees from participating in promotional events or advertising for casinos,” Schefter (who emphasized that he was disseminating the league’s position and not his own opinion) told TBL. “This is not a fantasy issue. This is a Las Vegas issue.”
To me, as with the delineation in terms of player and management affiliations with casinos, the NFL’s distinction here is incredulous. Any untoward relationship a player might develop with a gambler is much more likely to occur away from casinos, who could be the victims of rigged games, rather than under their ever-watchful security. Furthermore, how is it okay for almost half the league’s teams, as well as players like Richard Sherman to endorse FanDuel, or for Gronk to host Vegas pool parties, or for Aaron Rodgers to play in a charity golf tournament in Tahoe sponsored by a casino, but not for Romo to host a fan-friendly event at a convention center tangentially connected to a casino? (This is not to say Sherman, Gronk, and Rodgers should not be permitted to do that, but that all of them should be alright.)

And where is the NFLPA in all this?

On his Twitter account, NFL agent Blake Baratz called on the players association (whose spokesman George Atallah did not respond to an email from TBL seeking comment) to step in and fight these regulations. “I think it’s just very hypocritical of the NFL to decide to pick and choose where an NFL player can make money,” Baratz said by phone Thursday morning. “It’s hypocritical, to me, to say an NFL player can’t endorse a beer company when Budweiser’s a major sponsor of the NFL and their ads run on every single break. In this instance, I understand the NFL’s feeling that it’s a slippery slope when players are involved in things at or near casinos, but the reality is part of the reason the NFL has such a great fan base is because of the gambling aspect of it.”

[Related: MLB, NBA, and NHL Players Cannot Play Daily Fantasy; NFL Takes Position It’s Not an Issue]

“I think the NFLPA needs to step in and do something about this,” Baratz said. “[The double standard with teams and casinos] is completely hypocritical. It’s a power move by the NFL. They want their cake and to be able to eat it too. And for the most part, they’ve been able to. There’s not a lot of pushback. It’s been going on for a long time and it just so happened that a big name player like Tony Romo got shut down and got a lot of media attention. The sad part, to me, is there are a lot of players who could actually use the additional money that can’t take advantage of it. Tony Romo is fine, he’s set. But there are a lot of guys in the NFL that are just fighting to make the minimum salary. They don’t know when they’ll be released and out on the street. Every additional $5,000 or $10,000 or $20,000 that they may have the ability to go earn makes a big difference to them.”

“It’s very, very, very hypocritical,” Baratz continued. “And the NFL does a lot of those things because they’ve gotten away with it. The only way you can change it is if the players stand up for themselves, or the NFLPA convinces them that they need to do that. If Tony Romo got all the players together and said, ‘Listen guys, I’m having this convention, and if you cancel it not one player in the NFL is showing up for the first day of training camp,’ you can bet they’ll change it. But until then, nothing’s gonna change.”

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The NFL would be a tiny piece of lint compared to what it is today if it wasn't for sports betting.......only reason most people watch the games is because they have wagers on the games &/or they have money invested in fantasy football.
 

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The NFL would be a tiny piece of lint compared to what it is today if it wasn't for sports betting.......only reason most people watch the games is because they have wagers on the games &/or they have money invested in fantasy football.

Spot On of course but NFL has to maintain distance from being seen as approving of Gambling because to do otherwise is to open a massive can of worms. Cries of "FIX!!" would multiply 1,000,000x from what they are...just to give one example. many others could be provided but the most important are obvious.

Any 1st year law student could tell you that NFL can never come out as supportive of betting on games.

In any form.

Just "Good Business" as that relates to maintaining a positive trusted image of a league whose games are played fairly and not unduly influenced.

which I know begs the question: "why the hell is Goddell still running the show?"

That I cannot answer. has something to do with $$$ though....or folks are being blackmailed by him.
 

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Ba‘al Zəvûv;11118475 said:
Spot On of course but NFL has to maintain distance from being seen as approving of Gambling because to do otherwise is to open a massive can of worms. Cries of "FIX!!" would multiply 1,000,000x from what they are...just to give one example. many others could be provided but the most important are obvious.

Any 1st year law student could tell you that NFL can never come out as supportive of betting on games.

In any form.

Just "Good Business" as that relates to maintaining a positive trusted image of a league whose games are played fairly and not unduly influenced.

which I know begs the question: "why the hell is Goddell still running the show?"

That I cannot answer. has something to do with $$$ though....or folks are being blackmailed by him.

They could if they got an enlightened, non hypocritical commish like Adam Silver who realizes regulated Sports Gambling would make the league TONS of money, and that it would actually make it safer against any potential monkey business, and can articulate those items.
 

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They could if they got an enlightened, non hypocritical commish like Adam Silver who realizes regulated Sports Gambling would make the league TONS of money, and that it would actually make it safer against any potential monkey business, and can articulate those items.

You're probably right but I think if you are such an approach is YEARS away, like, 12ish years and would require Online Gambling be legalized within USA first before anything like that would even be considered and, like, Online Gambling not just made legal here but made legal and then been around for a few years so maybe, like, 12 years or so cuz I anticipate online gambling becoming legalized for USA about 7-8 years from now. Hopefully sooner. Hopefully 5 years....2020.
 

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One things for sure, it could never be embraced under the Regime of the Idiot Goodell cuz his Public Image is too tarnished. Overwhelming perception would be that he's up to some nefarious shit and beyond that he, of course, would completely and totally fuck the process up. As he has every single thing else he's been faced with.

But I agree with you totally. Adam Silver-like Commish for NFL would be a HUGE positive.
 

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The NFL would be a tiny piece of lint compared to what it is today if it wasn't for sports betting.......only reason most people watch the games is because they have wagers on the games &/or they have money invested in fantasy football.

Get out of your cocoon . There are actually millions and millions of people who like the NFL without ever making a bet
 

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Get out of your cocoon . There are actually millions and millions of people who like the NFL without ever making a bet

I agree... the NFL is one of the greatest forms of entertainment the common man can enjoy for free now days.
 

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I agree... the NFL is one of the greatest forms of entertainment the common man can enjoy for free now days.

Concussions are a serious threat to the viability of this game tho.

49ers alone have lost so many guys just recently, thousands upon thousands of Youth will choose other sports, many forced to by their parents.

Would you let your Child persue an NFL Football career NFLTrends?

I know you have just the girl now but if your next was a Son?



By the way...DIG YOUR ONLINE PROXY SITE.

That is well done. Simple, uncluttered, to the point...case for Trust extremely well made and in an amazingly few words....less might be "more" in such a case and it appears you grasp that. Very well done.

I don't know how you're gonna be able to do anything else come Contest time this year and going forward cuz Hilton Contest is fixin to blow up like WSOP & the like.


Strap Yourself In Trends.

and stop fuckin' around with that nutjob barr he ain't worth it and one just cannot tell when a nutjob like that is gonna implode or what he will do. barr is a straight up Casino-Shooter-Upper Trends. matter of time. He's already threatened you. I know he's frustrating but he ain't worth it you have way too much to lose Trends. Let it go. Noting whatsoever will be accomplished by paying him any mind anyways Trends.
 

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Ba‘al Zəvûv;11119107 said:
Concussions are a serious threat to the viability of this game tho.

49ers alone have lost so many guys just recently, thousands upon thousands of Youth will choose other sports, many forced to by their parents.

Would you let your Child persue an NFL Football career NFLTrends?

I know you have just the girl now but if your next was a Son?



By the way...DIG YOUR ONLINE PROXY SITE.

That is well done. Simple, uncluttered, to the point...case for Trust extremely well made and in an amazingly few words....less might be "more" in such a case and it appears you grasp that. Very well done.

I don't know how you're gonna be able to do anything else come Contest time this year and going forward cuz Hilton Contest is fixin to blow up like WSOP & the like.


Strap Yourself In Trends.

and stop fuckin' around with that nutjob barr he ain't worth it and one just cannot tell when a nutjob like that is gonna implode or what he will do. barr is a straight up Casino-Shooter-Upper Trends. matter of time. He's already threatened you. I know he's frustrating but he ain't worth it you have way too much to lose Trends. Let it go. Noting whatsoever will be accomplished by paying him any mind anyways Trends.

I find it a lot of fun to call him out on all his lies, and push him into a corner to where he gets so frustrated and angry he cant take it lol. Was fun whil eit lasted, but I proved my point on what a pathological lying fraud POS he really is. One day he might turn it around and start telling the truth one day, but I doubt that.

And thanks for the compliment! Get yourself on the twitter and possibly win a Proxy jersey or NFLtrends Nike cap. I will have pics of them posted by next week when they arrive
 

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I find it a lot of fun to call him out on all his lies, and push him into a corner to where he gets so frustrated and angry he cant take it lol. Was fun whil eit lasted, but I proved my point on what a pathological lying fraud POS he really is. One day he might turn it around and start telling the truth one day, but I doubt that.

And thanks for the compliment! Get yourself on the twitter and possibly win a Proxy jersey or NFLtrends Nike cap. I will have pics of them posted by next week when they arrive

Naw.

barr is, IMO, doomed. I think he has accumulated so much bad Karma that he's dug himself an inescapable hole for several lifetimes. he could stop lying, yes, and improve his Life turn the sinking ship around but I think he is so far from shore Trends that there is no way he makes it in unless a higher power intervenes sweeping him up and surfing him in on a cloud.

Which doesn't happen very often Trends.

The more likely outcome is that he ends up losing it and hurting people, destroying lives.

You're too cool of a guy with too much positive stuff going on and a Family, in particular a daughter, that needs you around to foolishly take on the risk of having any involvement with this guy Trends.

Especially when absolutely nothing is gained by interacting with him. Or people like him.

I'll look into the twitter stuff for sure.

And I'll even send you whatever guys I run across that need Proxy.

But only if you promise to not exchange even one more word with that scumbag.

This I ask for your daughter Trends whose too young to ask for this herself.

But would ask for exactly this were she old enough to understand.

Dude just straight out scares me Trends. That threat he made about you meeting him at the casino?

Bad bad visions passed across my mind's eye Trends.


You know people like barr don't show up with desire, intention for a fair fight Trends.
 

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Naw.

barr is, IMO, doomed. I think he has accumulated so much bad Karma that he's dug himself an inescapable hole for several lifetimes. he could stop lying, yes, and improve his Life turn the sinking ship around but I think he is so far from shore Trends that there is no way he makes it in unless a higher power intervenes sweeping him up and surfing him in on a cloud.

Which doesn't happen very often Trends.

The more likely outcome is that he ends up losing it and hurting people, destroying lives.

You're too cool of a guy with too much positive stuff going on and a Family, in particular a daughter, that needs you around to foolishly take on the risk of having any involvement with this guy Trends.

Especially when absolutely nothing is gained by interacting with him. Or people like him.

I'll look into the twitter stuff for sure.

And I'll even send you whatever guys I run across that need Proxy.

But only if you promise to not exchange even one more word with that scumbag.

This I ask for your daughter Trends whose too young to ask for this herself.

But would ask for exactly this were she old enough to understand.

Dude just straight out scares me Trends. That threat he made about you meeting him at the casino?

Bad bad visions passed across my mind's eye Trends.


You know people like barr don't show up with desire, intention for a fair fight Trends.

Usually the guys with the biggest mouths have the smallest brains. But, in a fair fight I am sure with my background and the shape I am in I could probably take him. But, like you said, a guy like him probably wouldn't fight fair from the get-go.

I am more than likely not going to interact with him anymore, my points been proven, and I predicted him as easily as reading a book. No need for me to push it further, whats done is done, point has been made, and it showed him for what he really was.

Thanks for the thoughts and kind words.
 

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Oh and P.S. Trends:

I don't know what your Google results are, like how well you rank (how high link to your site appears...Page One or Page 18) of a Google Search for "Vegas Football Contest Proxy", "Westgate Contest Proxy" and most importantly "Las Vegas Football Contests" and the many other possible combos of Search Words people might use but if you want to bust this open and feel you can handle a LOT of Proxies hats and Shirts are great but an investment in a competent SEO Guy would be better.

To fine tune your site with keywords Trends and whatever else these wizards know. The right Guy (or company) would be SO worth the investment Trends. I'd guess that would only cost about 500 bucks Trends. Then your site is appearing possible even page one of likely Searches Trends.

be mindful going in though that this contest might test 2000 entrants Trends and whatever you do don't get overloaded, backup frequently all vital data stored on computer Trends.

make backup of that backup.

SEO guy/co. could likely help with that as well.

:toast:

I'm just curious to find out if you could handle 200 proxies lmfao. Thus do I want you showing up on PAGE ONE Trends (lol).
 

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Usually the guys with the biggest mouths have the smallest brains. But, in a fair fight I am sure with my background and the shape I am in I could probably take him. But, like you said, a guy like him probably wouldn't fight fair from the get-go.

I am more than likely not going to interact with him anymore, my points been proven, and I predicted him as easily as reading a book. No need for me to push it further, whats done is done, point has been made, and it showed him for what he really was.

Thanks for the thoughts and kind words.

Look into your daughter's eyes Trends then consider how worth it messin with this nutjob is. If thats worth the risk.

If you can distract John Travolta long enough to get her to look deeply into her eyes that is....

simple math. ain't worth it Trends.
 

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Oh and P.S. Trends:

I don't know what your Google results are, like how well you rank (how high link to your site appears...Page One or Page 18) of a Google Search for "Vegas Football Contest Proxy", "Westgate Contest Proxy" and most importantly "Las Vegas Football Contests" and the many other possible combos of Search Words people might use but if you want to bust this open and feel you can handle a LOT of Proxies hats and Shirts are great but an investment in a competent SEO Guy would be better.

To fine tune your site with keywords Trends and whatever else these wizards know. The right Guy (or company) would be SO worth the investment Trends. I'd guess that would only cost about 500 bucks Trends. Then your site is appearing possible even page one of likely Searches Trends.

be mindful going in though that this contest might test 2000 entrants Trends and whatever you do don't get overloaded, backup frequently all vital data stored on computer Trends.

make backup of that backup.

SEO guy/co. could likely help with that as well.

:toast:

I'm just curious to find out if you could handle 200 proxies lmfao. Thus do I want you showing up on PAGE ONE Trends (lol).

Pretty sure I could easily handle 200 with the system I have in place from last year, it was a learning curve the first couple of weeks, but, then it was smooth sailing and easily done after that. I should look into the SEO for my site, definitely worth it if it works out.
 

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If you feel that you could handle that many Trends, have that level of confidence in your system/works I'd like to see you accomplish 3 things immediately :

1). Get on the SEO TODAY. Interview some prospective SEO Guys ASAP cuz it takes time to get ranked well on Google. Couple of Months might be about perfect, later might not....for this season.

2). Consider investing about $1500 Total with the SEO Guys (or company) to rework the website to make it Graphically pop better. Sleek, Professional. Thats not to imply your current site sucks or needs help Trends but rather to say a sleek ass seriously graphically impressive and totally Professional looking website = higher conversion rate of site visitors into paying Proxys. Simple reality of Web Commerce Trends, don't take this suggestion the wrong way.

3). Let me try a Longshot Play Trends: There is at least one maybe TWO Guys in town, Proxys themselves and very trustworthy like yourself, who I might be able to convince to have Dinner with you so you guys could make connection so that were one of you to reach your limit of # of Proxys your comfortable with servicing you could have a trustworthy guy to refer to.

This might see you wind up with a few add'l Proxies Trends.

I seriously never think you'd reach 200 this year lmfao....that be over 10% of the field. I was joking on that but if you think you could handle that many there are things that can be done to get more. One is making connest with the Guys I am talking about. I don't know them personally but I don't need to. I can make them understand why making connection with you might be a positive thing for all.

I don't expect I could actually pull off getting you guys together, guys too worried about losing business to one another if they form even the most basic of Alliances but the reality is that this contest will test 2000 Entrants Trends. If not this year then 2 seasons from now. ESPN is plugging it for chrissakes. 1st prize may be $1,000,000 this season Trends.

If Entries fall short of accomplishing that and Jay & Westgate don't supplement the pot to have a MILLION DOLLAR first place prize, deciding to do this in ADVANCE of opening for signups so that they can advertise a ONE MILLION DOLLAR first place prize I'll be seriously stunned Trends.

And suspicious of Kornegay and Westgate's level of marketing Saavy.

Being able to advertise this as $1,000,000 First Place (or higher if entrants exceed that) would very possibly cause the needed # of new entrants to enter that otherwise wouldn't have done so thus being a "self fulfilling prophecy" or whatever the term is...

Guaranteed $1,000,000 to 1st Place



as a Marketing Tool would be worth whatever Westgate had to kick into the pot to get it there and if they agreed to do that (kick in to guarantee the Milly) I firmly believe that being able to declare that MIL for first would cause enough extra entrants to enter that they'd not have to kick in any additional when all is said and done Trends.


Anywho. Let me know your thoughts on getting together with the other Proxy Guys so that you guys can refer to one another if any of you reaches a limit of # of Proxys you're comfy with and GET ON THE SEO NOW TRENDS.
 

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