NFL player not allowed to go into hospital while relative died, cop keeps him outside: THOUGHTS?

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cop was a dick, this much we know.
to say that all cops are scum is, well just a stupid statement.
if i can recall, the situation in east oakland last week started as a routine traffic stop...we all know that did'nt end well, except for that piece of shit shooting from the closet getting clipped.
 

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ENF insists: 1) Cop in a uniform is more of a target to criminals than any normal person going to work and that's a fact that can't be disputed.

B: Nonsense. If that were the case, a relatively high percentage of assaults and homicides would be directed at police officers vs civilians.

In fact, it's a miniscule ratio when comparing violence against civilians vs violence against police.

Any "criminal" is far more interested in accosting a civilian than they are in trying to take on a police officer. Don't even be so foolish as to pretend otherwise.

It's reasonable to stand by your submission - "most cops are hard working and honest" without being so fanciful as to suggest that more than a few of them face any notable physical or life-threatening risk on a daily basis.

Uh, duh, because the ratio of civilians to cops is much greater thus the reason for a higher ratio. Cops are targets and you can deny that if you'd like but you'd be wrong. A cop responds to incidents including domestics and regular disputes daily. They also pull people over for traffic violations. THIS IS THEIR JOB! And in performance of the job they do 40-50 Hrs per week, the chances of being killed or injured is much higher than that of a civilian. You can dispute this but you'd be flat out wrong and ignorant for making the statement.

Anytime a cop is in uniform and responding to an incident or making a traffic stop they are putting their life at risk. THAT IS A FACT.

If you think a florist or insurance salesman is more at risk than what I just described then you are high.
 

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Uh, duh, because the ratio of civilians to cops is much greater thus the reason for a higher ratio. Cops are targets and you can deny that if you'd like but you'd be wrong. A cop responds to incidents including domestics and regular disputes daily. They also pull people over for traffic violations. THIS IS THEIR JOB! And in performance of the job they do 40-50 Hrs per week, the chances of being killed or injured is much higher than that of a civilian. You can dispute this but you'd be flat out wrong and ignorant for making the statement.

Anytime a cop is in uniform and responding to an incident or making a traffic stop they are putting their life at risk. THAT IS A FACT.

If you think a florist or insurance salesman is more at risk than what I just described then you are high.


who cares. they signed up for the job. they know the risks involved. quit kissing ass.
 

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whats your point enfuego and whale???

We are talking about this incident. This incident in and of itself.

What the hell are you defending?
 

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who cares. they signed up for the job. they know the risks involved. quit kissing ass.

Quit kissing ass? What are you talking about? The first post you made in this thread said all that needs to be said about you and your character.
 

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whats your point enfuego and whale???

We are talking about this incident. This incident in and of itself.

What the hell are you defending?

Totally realize what you're saying and that was the point of my initial post. Barman made a point that these guys don't risk their lives everyday which is hard for me to comprehend.

Hell, you respond to a bar fight and two guys are bleeding and you then must defend against AIDS and other viruses that the normal civilian doesn't. Wake up Barman.

That's all I'm saying at least. I don't know about WW.
 

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alright, I get in enfuego

I will be one of the first to admit I am extremely thankful for what law enforcement does for me and the people I care about on a daily basis.

I will also admit I take that for granted and wish I didn't because at some point in time I will very much need them.

This story just strikes a nerve in a lot of people. I believe in humanity before I weight what cops do for a living each and every day. I believe in treating your fellow man with the decency and respect you would want him to show to you.

It's just so fucked up that this cop let himself get in the way of that, it just angers me so greatly.
 

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alright, I get in enfuego

I will be one of the first to admit I am extremely thankful for what law enforcement does for me and the people I care about on a daily basis.

I will also admit I take that for granted and wish I didn't because at some point in time I will very much need them.

This story just strikes a nerve in a lot of people. I believe in humanity before I weight what cops do for a living each and every day. I believe in treating your fellow man with the decency and respect you would want him to show to you.

It's just so fucked up that this cop let himself get in the way of that, it just angers me so greatly.

Intially I feel he had the right to pull them over as they were breaking the law and then try to figure out what was going on.

Then, he let the situation overcome him and he became the actor in the movie instead of the spectator. All he had to do was calm it down a little and communicate in a logical matter with them. I know they were being irrational and unpredictable but just follow them into the hospital and figure out what's going on. After that, turn off your lights and go back to work.

He should've check the car on the way in against anyone else in the vehicle but he should've put himself in their shoes and acted with more calm.

I honestly don't think he should be fired as he's obviously shown something to this point however he should be suspended and reassigned to a different postion. In his mind he probably thought he was doing the right thing but obviously he didn't.

And another thing, this thing wasn't racial. We have to stop blaming everything on race. It's getting ridiculous.
 

I say vee cut off your Chonson !!!!
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Rupert is a girl in a man uniform.

Are your panties still in a bunch over my signature ?? Would you like me to change it ? Too bad sucka !!! Come down to the game tommorrow,I would like to put a face next to your gay ass posts , once and for all ... Should I call your Mom and ask her permission for you ? Do you think it will be ok ?@):mad:


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I don"t believe Moats. Most guys would be partying if their mother inlaw was dying. I think the wife ran in just to make sure she was on the will and didnt make it on time and thats why she's pissed off.

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Are your panties still in a bunch over my signature ?? Would you like me to change it ? Too bad sucka !!! Come down to the game tommorrow,I would like to put a face next to your gay ass posts , once and for all ... Should I call your Mom and ask her permission for you ? Do you think it will be ok ?@):mad:


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ENF keeps rollin' with: Cops are targets and you can deny that if you'd like but you'd be wrong.

B: If "cops were targets" then more than a couple dozen per year would be killed by civilians.

If they are "targets", seems those targeting them are scoring very very low.

ENF: A cop responds to incidents including domestics and regular disputes daily.

B: Some days yes, some days no. If they were being harmed at any kind of notable rate in such calls, we'd have headlines daily about "cops get assaulted while on domestic service call".

But we don't.

E: They also pull people over for traffic violations. THIS IS THEIR JOB!

B: Police being harmed by civilians during a traffic stop are incredibly rare. Perhaps you're confusing real life cops with those on television who encounter violence several times in each weekly episode.

E: And in performance of the job they do 40-50 Hrs per week, the chances of being killed or injured is much higher than that of a civilian.

B: Absolute nonsense. There's at least a couple dozen professions in which the worker is in far more danger of injury or death.

Police work is not without danger. But it's hardly the stuff of television and movies.

On a day to day basis, 99% of police work is frankly as mundane and boring as anything done on your job or in my business.

E: If you think a florist or insurance salesman is more at risk than what I just described then you are high.

B: Well hey, we finally have at least one agreement. The average florist and insurance salesman does have a less dangerous job than the average police officer.

And don't forget elementary school music teachers and clothing designers.

In fact, we should make a list of the Least Dangerous Jobs in America and then line the average police officer's job up against that list so as to make the cop's job look Extra Super Dangerous.

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Or we could simply take a deep breath and think for a moment and I'm sure even you could identify a couple dozen or more professions where the worker faces far more danger than a ticket writing cop.

We lose less than two officers a month nationwide out of several hundred thousand law enforcement officers to death by civilians. Tragic for those two, but hardly a reason to bow and worship the remaining several hundred thousand.
 
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ENF keeps rollin' with: Cops are targets and you can deny that if you'd like but you'd be wrong.

B: If "cops were targets" then more than a couple dozen per year would be killed by civilians.

If they are "targets", seems those targeting them are scoring very very low.

ENF: A cop responds to incidents including domestics and regular disputes daily.

B: Some days yes, some days no. If they were being harmed at any kind of notable rate in such calls, we'd have headlines daily about "cops get assaulted while on domestic service call".

But we don't.

E: They also pull people over for traffic violations. THIS IS THEIR JOB!

B: Police being harmed by civilians during a traffic stop are incredibly rare. Perhaps you're confusing real life cops with those on television who encounter violence several times in each weekly episode.

E: And in performance of the job they do 40-50 Hrs per week, the chances of being killed or injured is much higher than that of a civilian.

B: Absolute nonsense. There's at least a couple dozen professions in which the worker is in far more danger of injury or death.

Police work is not without danger. But it's hardly the stuff of television and movies.

On a day to day basis, 99% of police work is frankly as mundane and boring as anything done on your job or in my business.

E: If you think a florist or insurance salesman is more at risk than what I just described then you are high.

B: Well hey, we finally have at least one agreement. The average florist and insurance salesman does have a less dangerous job than the average police officer.

But take a deep breath and think for a moment and I'm sure even you could identify a couple dozen or more professions where the worker faces far more danger than a ticket writing cop.

We lose less than two officers a month nationwide out of several hundred thousand law enforcement officers to death by civilians. Tragic for those two, but hardly a reason to bow and worship the remaining several hundred thousand.

I don't think you understand or have attempted to understand one thing I've said here.

My point is this and it's very simple. If a cop is in uniform and performs any sort of patrol duty and responds to any call from a bar fight to a traffic stop his/her life is at risk. I don't care what the percentages are that something happens or not. I've not one time in this entire thread said the percentages of something happening were high. I said if they respond to a situation or perform their duty they are at risk period and if you tell me they're not you are wrong.

You must be joking if you think the media writes articles every time a cop is assaulted. You don't read half of what happens in the U.S. Just because it's not in the newspaper doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Ridiculous argument.

You or I have no idea how many cops are assaulted on traffic stops. We haven't done the research but if they pull someone over their life is at risk. It's a fact.

You mention cops that are killed but you fail to mention those that are injured in the line of duty. That's because you don't know how many and neither do I.

My point again if you didn't see it the first few times, cops are at risk everytime they respond whether something happens or not.

I would also like you to list more than two dozen jobs where people are at risk of dying almost 2,000 hours in a year.
 

I say vee cut off your Chonson !!!!
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NES left them at my house , he was gonna give em to Hunter , so if thats what you heard, its probably true ...
 

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