game opened "pick"
"we" (broncos) are now -2.5ish
this is despite the fact plummer and beuerlein are out. kannel has a finger problem meaning jarius jackson might start for denver.
IF JJ starts - UNLOAD on the pats - for JJ SUX!
even if kannel starts - NO WAY i would lay the points here. if kannel plays - not anxious to take it, either.
but wait and see - if JJ plays - POUND NE - for JJ blows!
"we" (broncos) are now -2.5ish
this is despite the fact plummer and beuerlein are out. kannel has a finger problem meaning jarius jackson might start for denver.
IF JJ starts - UNLOAD on the pats - for JJ SUX!
even if kannel starts - NO WAY i would lay the points here. if kannel plays - not anxious to take it, either.
but wait and see - if JJ plays - POUND NE - for JJ blows!
There is no way that the Broncos lose 3 in a row.The Broncos are one of the toughest teams coming home after 2 road games in arow as the Broncos are 32-8-1 ats after 2 road games.Another biggie which has been a jump start for the Broncos is when they score less than 10 points the following game they are 15-3-1 ats.Maybe the mothership of them all is the Broncos are 35-15-2 ats at home if the opponent is coming off a home win.This one I have not seen in years (only been doing this 3 years) is play a home team with a winning percentage of .501 or better if they are off 2 away straight up losses.Big profit this is 37-13-1 ats.The Patriots are not a good team.Luck will catch up to them.The Broncos will light this team up.Denver will explode tonight with points.They will also give up points.This is no sunday game.This is Monday.Denver likes to score points at home.The Patriots are not going to shut the Broncos down whoever is the qb for the Broncos.Hopefully a good Sunday, then pound this one with the %'s on the side of Denver to win the game.
"The Patriots are not a good team"
Are you kidding me?
I can think of a lot of other teams that arent good... The pats have won 6 out of their 1st 8 games so far and they were suffering from major injuries.
How can you say a team that is 6-2 is not a good team?
They beat the Giants 17-6, Miami 19-13, and Tennessee 38-30.
Their only bad showing this year was against buffalo after a huge shock in the locker room with the loss of a leader - not to mention he went to the competition.
Are you kidding me?
I can think of a lot of other teams that arent good... The pats have won 6 out of their 1st 8 games so far and they were suffering from major injuries.
How can you say a team that is 6-2 is not a good team?
They beat the Giants 17-6, Miami 19-13, and Tennessee 38-30.
Their only bad showing this year was against buffalo after a huge shock in the locker room with the loss of a leader - not to mention he went to the competition.
back to the team that is.. not out of retirement.
Anyway truthfully I think the pats are a good team. Kevin Faulk has filled in the holes where Antoine Smith couldnt last year, and despite all the injuries they haev proven week after week that they can play the game as a team.
One of the best things for them has been that they have been flying under the radar somewhat with all of their injuries and their failure to do much last year.
They do well when they are under the radar. and as underdogs also...
Anyway truthfully I think the pats are a good team. Kevin Faulk has filled in the holes where Antoine Smith couldnt last year, and despite all the injuries they haev proven week after week that they can play the game as a team.
One of the best things for them has been that they have been flying under the radar somewhat with all of their injuries and their failure to do much last year.
They do well when they are under the radar. and as underdogs also...
I think the Pats could beat the Broncos with Jake in, if they got a break or two, playing at Mile-High. This outta be interesting, two of the league's golden childs playing in Denver, watch, not one penalty will be thrown. anyways, if you're going to give me points with a back-up at the helm for Denver I'm all over it. Is the line moving towards 1?
Well let's see year in and year out take a look at any team that starts 8-0,7-1,or 6-2.They are no shoe in to make the playoffs or finish real good.I don't have those teams from past years,(big lou can maybe help us here) but lets just say there are 5 teams with one of those records.Only 3 make the playoffs.Is New England really a good 6-2 team.I think not.Slim wins vs. cleveland and Miami to name a few without punching the ball into the endzone doesn't make you a good team.That running game for the Pats really does blow.There are atleast 8 teams that have a better running game than the over-rated 6-2 Patriots.When playoff time comes around the Pats will not make any noise other than breathing the fresh air in the off season.
Oren, nothing for nothing Belichek has been doing this for years.So this year is really no different than past years.
A book that I read once said to play against every team that starts 8-0,7-1,or 6-2 in the 1st half of the season.One reason they said to do this was because the line tends to be inflated.I believe it was 3 years ago (i could be wrong) the Raiders started 6-2 and they were no where to be found at the end of the season as they finished off the board and you made money.
A book that I read once said to play against every team that starts 8-0,7-1,or 6-2 in the 1st half of the season.One reason they said to do this was because the line tends to be inflated.I believe it was 3 years ago (i could be wrong) the Raiders started 6-2 and they were no where to be found at the end of the season as they finished off the board and you made money.
That doesnt work here - look at the rest of the pats schedule...
After the bye week they have Dallas and Houston. Dallas may put up a fight but Belecheck knows the game parcells plays - and houston shouldnt be too tough of a game for them.
Of course ATS is a different story - I'll be real interested to see how much the pats are favored by in the two games after the bye week. If its more than a couple of FGs then I would lean the other side.
After that they have Indy and Miami which will at the very least be one loss.
Then easy games vs Jacksonville and the Jets and a revenge game vs buffalo at home in the snow a couple of days after christmas.
From what I know about this team - barring any unforseen circumstances I see it like this,
Sure wins (if there is such a thing):
Houston
Jacksonville
Jets
Other games:
Dallas - possible win
One of two possibly: Indy or Miami
Probable win:
Buffalo
So if they win the 3 sure bets then they have their 9 wins.
If they beat one of the 4 others (Dallas, Miami, Indy, or Buffalo) then they are in better shape for a playoff spot.
And if their 10th win is against one of the two remaining division foes then they would likely be a lock for the post season.
I know that's a lot of if's - but look at it this way:
All yer asking them to do is win 3 out of their next 6 - then control thier own destiny at home vs the bills in week 17...
The odds are in their favor for a post season run.
Am I nuts? or does this make sense?
After the bye week they have Dallas and Houston. Dallas may put up a fight but Belecheck knows the game parcells plays - and houston shouldnt be too tough of a game for them.
Of course ATS is a different story - I'll be real interested to see how much the pats are favored by in the two games after the bye week. If its more than a couple of FGs then I would lean the other side.
After that they have Indy and Miami which will at the very least be one loss.
Then easy games vs Jacksonville and the Jets and a revenge game vs buffalo at home in the snow a couple of days after christmas.
From what I know about this team - barring any unforseen circumstances I see it like this,
Sure wins (if there is such a thing):
Houston
Jacksonville
Jets
Other games:
Dallas - possible win
One of two possibly: Indy or Miami
Probable win:
Buffalo
So if they win the 3 sure bets then they have their 9 wins.
If they beat one of the 4 others (Dallas, Miami, Indy, or Buffalo) then they are in better shape for a playoff spot.
And if their 10th win is against one of the two remaining division foes then they would likely be a lock for the post season.
I know that's a lot of if's - but look at it this way:
All yer asking them to do is win 3 out of their next 6 - then control thier own destiny at home vs the bills in week 17...
The odds are in their favor for a post season run.
Am I nuts? or does this make sense?
i dont think being a good team has anything to do with gambling...its like john madden said...nfl, pretty much stands for never figure league...look at when SF played tampa...Sf looked so strong..yet when they played arizona they looked like shit..and as far as what captain said bout no way denver will loose three..u might eat ur words...
Well - and I could eat my words too...
I understand where captain is coming from - believe me, I know how long the pats went without ever winning a game in Denver, and playing the stats is never a bad bet.
Pats arent a bad team though. They wouldnt have gotten this far under these circumstances - and they will only get better.
I understand where captain is coming from - believe me, I know how long the pats went without ever winning a game in Denver, and playing the stats is never a bad bet.
Pats arent a bad team though. They wouldnt have gotten this far under these circumstances - and they will only get better.
Jaypaw, the teacher always some how finds a way to beat the student.Dallas I believe will get the win up there.Parcells had that circled in the spring time.
If Denver would have won the last 2 games.what would be the line? Maybe 4.5 or 5 or more? But Denver lost the last 2 and have a 3rd string qb going and they are favorites.What how can it be New England is not the favorite off of the way they have been playing and the way Denver has performed with a 2nd and 3rd string qb? Now the line is 2.5 today.Get the trap out for the mice when they get 3 points monday nite with the Patriots.
Denver has not beaten anybody, but they arre the fav.The boys that put the number out know more than us.I will gladly give the 2.5 or 3 points and say thank you.
If Denver would have won the last 2 games.what would be the line? Maybe 4.5 or 5 or more? But Denver lost the last 2 and have a 3rd string qb going and they are favorites.What how can it be New England is not the favorite off of the way they have been playing and the way Denver has performed with a 2nd and 3rd string qb? Now the line is 2.5 today.Get the trap out for the mice when they get 3 points monday nite with the Patriots.
Denver has not beaten anybody, but they arre the fav.The boys that put the number out know more than us.I will gladly give the 2.5 or 3 points and say thank you.
