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This person sounds mentally ill. The sane approach would be to assume he's not getting the money and proceed accordingly. If he had spent all the time that he has obsessed over it on something productive then maybe he'd already have made up for the lost money. Sounds like this guy needs professional help more than his Neteller funds.

No thats not the sane approach.We are most likely getting our money back and he has every right to worry about if and when that is. You have no idea how much he had on there and what he needs it for. The crap also happened 5 months ago so it sounds like he had food rent money set aside but has run through it which is understandable.
Its his fucking money and you act like he should want it or be pissed he doesnt have it.


I got a lot of my money off neteller when this all happened but still have a lot more on there. Not everyone only had 2000 dollars on there at the time so it wasnt exactly easy to get all of the money off at once. I was stupid for having as much as I had on neteller (although it wasnt all my fault either-wn a poker torunament and make 2 other big cashouts after having a great month or 2 in cash games and have really shitty timing.) but that doenst give them the right to keep it.
 

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so it sounds like you have a gameplan..

Correct me if i am wrong, but it seems like you did little to no wagering, most of your profits were from bonus's, ETC?


very little wagering (other than FL BCS bowl). I covered all sides mostly. Most of my profits were from BJ and high variance slot and VP deals. My last big score before the BCS game was Mansion where I did the free $1000 NFL bet followed by the $1000 matching bonus in the casino playing bingo with the 100x side bet before they yanked it. I managed about 30 accounts there.
 

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I had already pulled most of the money out of my accounts in November. I let everything I still had ride on Florida moneyline for the CFL championship. I was in the middle of getting all this money out when the shit hit the fan. I was doing the Canadian Peer to Peer thing when that avenue got cut off. All in all I have 16 accounts with frozen funds.

I have talked to everyone and the only thing I can do is wait like everyone else. My lawyer thinks the US and Neteller will have to give up the funds. Some of the funds are in ach limbo (frozen) while some is still sitting in Neteller. He is prepared to file suit, but I would be exposing other people who are not involved and I am not going to do that. If they froze US accounts a couple months earlier I would be out mid 6 figures which makes this easier to swallow.

This was the final wakeup call for me hence my retirement. BOS hurt me pretty bad, but I hurt them even worse. Pinnacle was disappointing, but they were not my moneymaker.

16 Neteller accounts?
 
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16 Neteller accounts?


The guy was a true professional.He had friends (ghosts) open up accounts and take advantage.But he did fuck up.There was a window to get his funds and he missed.The writing was on the wall.He just couldnt get all of it out.I'm sure he got a good percentage but theres 70 large still out there.WVU is one sharp,sharp cookie.I respect what he has to say.You can learn alot from him.
 

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"All in all I have 16 accounts with frozen funds"
"managing 30 accounts"

your email must be full of bonus offers everytime you wake up in the morning
 

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I first heard the rumors on this forum and listening to posters here


just a mere 5 days before they stopped the even the Neteller Debitcard withdrawals thing I had just finished getting my small amount of $2800.00 I had out of there I really feel for the people that lost tons on this stiff job by neteller... How many years of extentions and excuses before the pay the people they owe???

its going to be awhile IMO


I used to love these guys never saw this coming
 

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should we rephrase that to 'the UIGEA is ruining lives"

or

'the port security bill is ruining lives'

No, in this case the DOJ is ruining lives by maliciously holding $55 million as evidence that they don't even need since most NETeller transactions are documented bank EFT transactions.
 

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70 fuckin DIMES!??

Did you move money there right after Pinnacle shut of americans then got stuck in the run on the bank??

That's exactly what happened with me. 36 logs. I didn't get paid by Pinny until Saturday, and with Martin Luther King Day costing me a chance to get a checks mailed on Monday, Neteller shut down Tuesday. If Pinny would've paid me 2 days earlier I wouldn't have got stuck. Then someone was ready to do a person-to-person with me, and Neteller shut that down. I've been about 48 hours behind through this whole fucking nightmare. I just couldn't get on top of it because I never had a Neteller ATM card. I hope we get some good news soon.
 

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That's exactly what happened with me. 36 logs. I didn't get paid by Pinny until Saturday, and with Martin Luther King Day costing me a chance to get a checks mailed on Monday, Neteller shut down Tuesday. If Pinny would've paid me 2 days earlier I wouldn't have got stuck. Then someone was ready to do a person-to-person with me, and Neteller shut that down. I've been about 48 hours behind through this whole fucking nightmare. I just couldn't get on top of it because I never had a Neteller ATM card. I hope we get some good news soon.
have you been in contact with anyone there through all this? If I had money tied up there at that level they would know my name persoanlly. that and i'd be paying them a visit personally..
 

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have you been in contact with anyone there through all this? If I had money tied up there at that level they would know my name persoanlly. that and i'd be paying them a visit personally..

Who am I going to threaten and harass? You call them and you'll get a $9.50 an hour employee who is going to lose his/her job soon.

I'll tell you another part of my nightmare...I ordered checks on Friday and Saturday that were in the FedEx envelopes ready to go out Monday, but because of MLK Day they couldn't. When they decided to shut down first thing Tuesday, they didn't send the envelopes out, and then lied to me about it for 2 days, which cost me more valuable time.

"They have 120% of the deposits held in an escrow account verified by auditors"....fucking joke.

"Their business model is so perfect that it's impossible for them to lose money"...another shit joke that hit the fan.
 

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As soon as people started talking about Neteller like they were stronger than IBM and that their failure is a mathematically impossibility, I knew I was getting stroked and I sensed disaster. "They have over 100% of the customer deposits in an escrow account"...THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE!
 

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As soon as people started talking about Neteller like they were stronger than IBM and that their failure is a mathematically impossibility, I knew I was getting stroked and I sensed disaster. "They have over 100% of the customer deposits in an escrow account"...THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE!

I knew thats was a sham also...as soon as the DOJ froze accounts. Someone can correct me but I don't think that the DOJ can touch an escrow account...JMO
 

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This person sounds mentally ill. The sane approach would be to assume he's not getting the money and proceed accordingly. If he had spent all the time that he has obsessed over it on something productive then maybe he'd already have made up for the lost money. Sounds like this guy needs professional help more than his Neteller funds.

He also could have and should have used a little common sense and presumed the us govt was serious about throwing a monkey wrench into offshore gambling.

Why have blood money tied up in neteller when what was going on certainly was far from being secret?
 

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According To The Public Information Officer For The Us District Attorney's Office, The Preliminary Hearing Has Now Been Rolled Over Again. The Next Date For Court Will Be 30 Days From Yesterday (5-31)
 

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According To The Public Information Officer For The Us District Attorney's Office, The Preliminary Hearing Has Now Been Rolled Over Again. The Next Date For Court Will Be 30 Days From Yesterday (5-31)

WTF? I thought an agreement had been reached. What does a preliminary hearing have to do with my cash? Or is my money forever attached to the fate of these two founders, in spite of claims of an agreement? Is this buying more time so Neteller can go under some sort of bankruptcy protection?
 

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Just like when ENRON went down... only a small window of opportunity to get out before they lost everything.
 

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Just like when ENRON went down... only a small window of opportunity to get out before they lost everything.

I said this from the begining...I really dont think anyone is going to get paid by Neteller. Somehow someway they will make an excuse not to pay...JMO

Just look at BOS..they settled in court and from what I have read no one has gotten paid.
 

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