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On a 90 mile trip the other day I was stopped by a trooper for going 69 in a 60. I seemed a bit surprised by that amount over the speed limit as all the while I was driving I looked down at the speedometer and was never driving anywhere close to that speed. I was puzzled, the trooper explained the ticket (for $69) and offered that there was a S.T.O.P. program that would erase the ticket from my driving record if I chose to take that program. He said that program cost around $150. I politely told him that I'd probably just take care of the ticket, meaning that I'd just pay up.

I was about 10 miles from my destination, I spent a couple hours there and then drove home. I noticed on the way home that my speedometer was lazy and slow at times, once I was going down a hill at 62 mph and I knew I was gaining speed but the needle stuck at the 62. Another time I entered a small town at 40 mph, I eased off the pedal and dropped speed to what I thought was around 30 mph yet after a half mile of this speed the needle was stuck at 40 before slowly coming down.

Obviously my speedometer is having issues as it's behaving irregular, I'm wondering if there is a cheap and easy way to present this to the authorities and get the ticket nullified. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to dodge responsibility, I've gotten tickets in the past where I knew I was speeding and just took the hit because I knew I was speeding and had fully deserved the penalty. I just think in this case I was duped by my car into thinking I was driving slower than I was. Had I known it earlier I would have explained it to the trooper and possibly could have avoided the ticket and just gotten a fix-it-ticket instead.

The county seat my ticket was issued in is about 80 miles away, Ideally it would be nice to have some documentation from some mechanic or law enforcement agency that claims my speedometer is retarded, it isn't worth dragging a $40-50 an hour witness to court over a $69 ticket, say if my mechanic could verify my position and get the ticket thrown out. I have a friend who is a good mechanic that states he can probably put a scanner on my car to verify the accuracy of the speedometer.....he has already been privy to a ride in my car and has seen the oddities. I know it's reacting differently than normal because in a stretch of road that I drive everyday to work, there's a "reduced speed ahead" sign that I normally drive by. On past occasions when my gauges kept timely speed I would let completely off the gas when I was at that sign, from doing 60 mph to coasting I would meet a 45 mph sign at 45 mph and subsequently meet a 35 mph sign at 35 mph. All I had to do was take my foot off the gas to meet both those speed limits in order. Now I try this same thing and the speedometer reads at least 5 mph faster at each speed limit sign. The odometer appears to work correctly, turning a mile at every mile interesection. The tachometer appears to work correctly.

My other issue is about my insurance. It's due next month so they may not find out about it in time to jack my rate, if they would choose to do so. I should get my insurance payment notice in a week or two for April, the court date for my ticket is on the 15th of April. I also have a motorcycle policy with the same company that I had to buy a whole year for, that started in late January.

What I'm contemplating for this issue is to pay the ticket, if my insurance rates get jacked because of this then I'll explain the whole situation and just threaten to get another insurance provider, explain that maybe I'll still be paying a higher amount, I just won't be paying them. Works for somebody I know but then again he has multiple houses and multiple cars with the same insurance agency, last time he had some hail damage and they were pronto about dealing with him knowing that they were looking at a major premium loss if he walked. I know, doesn't have the same weight with me having just a car and a bike with my provider.

This all happened yesterday, for now I'm just going to watch my speed more closely, tachometer helps as I know highway speed to tach normal ratio. I just need some advice from the forum brothers and sisters here about if there is a cheap way to go about bringing this issue to that county to try to get it nullified. If I go back by myself it'll only cost about $10-15 gas out of pocket and about a half-day of vacation time. That's if I had some written testimony or legal documentation available to get it overturned. That part for me would probably be worth it. Taking someone else along for that amount is probably out of the question.

What to do now?????
 

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I get tickets all the time... sucks lol. In fact, I just got one 2 days ago. Seems like everytime I drive out of town I get one >:\ I'm flying everywhere now lol.
 

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faulty equipment is no defense

I have thought about this point......wonder if it had made a difference had I known about it before the citation and brought it up to the trooper. I know they hear stories and excuses all the time. Would have been nice if the needle would have been stuck on 40 when I was parked and talking to him.
 

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He would of sited you for faulty equipment. $69 for a speeding ticket is not bad here in Texas it would cost you $189 for 9 miles over if not more depending on city.
 

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He would of sited you for faulty equipment. $69 for a speeding ticket is not bad here in Texas it would cost you $189 for 9 miles over if not more depending on city.

I know what you're talking about in terms of penalty......in my county of residence $69 would be cheap as the paper I read I get the impression that the minimum speeding fine is much higher.

The faulty equipment citation.....wouldn't that amount to something like a burned out headlight......give you a warning and ten days to get it fixed? No fine?

A few years back I was driving an hour back home, late night, a headlight went out in the first two miles......I happened to get off the main highway and onto a backroad about halfway back. I decided that night that I didn't need a trooper pulling me over to tell me I had a headlight out when I already knew it. No, I hadn't been drinking and hadn't even drank at that time for like three years. Just didn't feel like meeting Mr. Obvious that night. I got home unimpeded and changed the bulb the next day.
 

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Marco,

No it is not worth fighting because in traffic court you are guilty until proven innocent.

If you lose you will play court costs and not to mention that it will go on your record.

The $150 cost for taking a course to have it removed from your record seems a bit high. I know here in Texas you can take course online for like $40.
 

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Marco,

No it is not worth fighting because in traffic court you are guilty until proven innocent.

If you lose you will play court costs and not to mention that it will go on your record.

The $150 cost for taking a course to have it removed from your record seems a bit high. I know here in Texas you can take course online for like $40.

Between what you and NHOJ have stated about Texas, it would seem a blessing to pay a $40 fee online instead of $189. If that was offered here I'd probably jump on it. Would be nice but I doubt an online course from Texas would fly here in Nebraska.

I'm guessing different counties have different speeding rates based on the size of the county and income issues contained within.

The court cost issue also occured to me......lose the case and then $69 turns into how much extra?
 

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Marco,

No it is not worth fighting because in traffic court you are guilty until proven innocent.

If you lose you will play court costs and not to mention that it will go on your record.

The $150 cost for taking a course to have it removed from your record seems a bit high. I know here in Texas you can take course online for like $40.

What sort of court costs are you referring to? I thought a day in court was a right.
 

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Yes the online course is $40 but you have to get a copy of driving record I think it is now $25 and also pay the court cost anywhere from $110 to $175 to be able to take the defensive driving course in Texas. So your looking at on the low side $165 to keep a ticket off your record. But as many are not aware of in Texas we now have a point system and once you get 3 points in 3 years you are required to pay $225 per year for 3 years to have the right to drive for next 3 years. So yes you do not want this on your record in Texas. Plus your insurance may go up anywhere from 10%-40% depending on your age. You also have a choice for deferring the ticket which cost $180 or more where if you dont get a ticket for 6 months it goes away. If you do get a ticket it you must pay orginal fine plus new fine and they both go on your record.



Marco,

No it is not worth fighting because in traffic court you are guilty until proven innocent.

If you lose you will play court costs and not to mention that it will go on your record.

The $150 cost for taking a course to have it removed from your record seems a bit high. I know here in Texas you can take course online for like $40.
 

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Court cost in Texas for ticket are $10. Court cost for processing DD request is $110. Your court cost won't be more than $50 for a ticket ask for trail by jury get speedo fix and bring proof and you have a good chance to win the case. I say as high as 75% of a chance of winning. If officer dosnt show it willbe tossed out.
 

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Court cost in Texas for ticket are $10. Court cost for processing DD request is $110. Your court cost won't be more than $50 for a ticket ask for trail by jury get speedo fix and bring proof and you have a good chance to win the case. I say as high as 75% of a chance of winning. If officer dosnt show it willbe tossed out.

I have heard of cases getting thrown out because the officer didn't show....I have a set time and date for court if i choose this option upon which time a trial date would be set. Would mean a third trip to that county.

One other option, don't know how effective it would be......get the speedo fixed and talk to the D.A's office of that county, explain the whole situation to see if anything can be done without going to court, at least get their input. Nothing much lost on a phone call.

Probably looking at getting the speedo fixed or spending the rest of the driving life of that car being extra cautious about speed.

Curious to know if anyone's had a similar case like mine or heard of one that got dismissed or won in court. Sort of rolls back to Legend's post about faulty equipment being no defense. Is that true?
 

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I fought a ticket in court, lost and had to pay the ticket cost of $95 (don't recall exactly, plus $65 court costs).

As some have stated earlier, best bet appears to pay the fine and do what it takes to keep it off insurance.

If finanicially it is a burden, try and get the court date delayed if possilbe.
 

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I fought a ticket in court, lost and had to pay the ticket cost of $95 (don't recall exactly, plus $65 court costs).

As some have stated earlier, best bet appears to pay the fine and do what it takes to keep it off insurance.

If finanicially it is a burden, try and get the court date delayed if possilbe.

No financial burden, just looking right now for a little damage control, mainly insurance. It would help if I could get the court date delayed for another 80 years, I'd be over 120 years old then. I'd even offer to go double or nothing.

Right now I'm looking to delay paying the fine for a couple weeks until I can get my auto insurance premium paid....I'm assuming that there is no public record of this available to the insurance companies until after the ticket is paid for and it is (then?) entered onto my driving record for a period of around three years? So therefore they'd get notice of the speeding infraction after I already paid the premium?

And how often do they look at the driving record.....I'm assuming right before billing for the upcoming period, or do they have the usual computers hunting their database of customers for traffic violators who need punished with a higher premium?

All this shit because my speedo got Alzheimer's.

Somehow I can rationalize all this when I consider the times I intentionally did speed and never got caught, or other infractions and warnings....and the fact that I skipped the motorcycle safety class that I was adamant about going to.....skipping that class saved me about $150, now half of that can go towards this adventure. Sort of like George Carlin said about a jaywalking ticket, that he has jaywalked enough to prorate that one jaywalk ticket down to about 2 cents per jaywalk.
 

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No financial burden, just looking right now for a little damage control, mainly insurance. It would help if I could get the court date delayed for another 80 years, I'd be over 120 years old then. I'd even offer to go double or nothing.

Right now I'm looking to delay paying the fine for a couple weeks until I can get my auto insurance premium paid....I'm assuming that there is no public record of this available to the insurance companies until after the ticket is paid for and it is (then?) entered onto my driving record for a period of around three years? So therefore they'd get notice of the speeding infraction after I already paid the premium?

And how often do they look at the driving record.....I'm assuming right before billing for the upcoming period, or do they have the usual computers hunting their database of customers for traffic violators who need punished with a higher premium?

All this shit because my speedo got Alzheimer's.

Somehow I can rationalize all this when I consider the times I intentionally did speed and never got caught, or other infractions and warnings....and the fact that I skipped the motorcycle safety class that I was adamant about going to.....skipping that class saved me about $150, now half of that can go towards this adventure. Sort of like George Carlin said about a jaywalking ticket, that he has jaywalked enough to prorate that one jaywalk ticket down to about 2 cents per jaywalk.


Depends on your insurance company, as asked my agent about this. He said they review the information every 12 months, but they are small State Farm agent, who was just starting out. Some may check every 6 months.

As for 1 ticket, unless in a school zone or speeding I believe 15 or 20 over (can't remeber which one), they won't raise your premium.
 

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If you do say that your speedometer was broken, then you can go in with a receipt for a new cable or whatever, and most likely you will be let off.


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This may be an urban legend but have heard this more than once.

Over pay when you mail your check,write it for like $10 over the amount of the fine and they will send you back the 10 bucks and you never cash it and it never gets logged and your insurance will never find out?

Never had a ticket since I heard of this so don't know if it works or not but worth a try.
 

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Go to court and fight the ticket. When you see the judge ask the officer to produce paperwork on when the last time the "Gun" was calibrated.
 

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You break the law- you pay for the crime- simple as that. Quit trying to get out of it or around it.
 

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