Need Help with my two Futures on Ohio State and Oregon

yanks11pm · Jan 2, 2015

On November 25th I took these Future bets all to win the College Football Playoff:

TCU (+700)
Risk $67.10 to win $469.70

Ohio State (+700)
Risk $71.40 to win $499.80

Oregon (+450)
Risk $222.22 to win $999.99

Should I even mess with the Moneyline on this game? Ohio State is +265 maybe throw another $100 on that or wait and see if Oregon scores first and take Ohio State Live In-Game at +400something down a touchdown. Im in a pretty good situation where I win either way. I dunno what do ya'll think?

BernieVegas · Jan 2, 2015

Ohio State +7.5 ( yes buy the half point) and pray that Oregon wins by 7pts or less. The best scenario for YOU!!!

Yours in Winners
BernieV

*****further note you'd be getting one LIVE DOG!!!

PBMULE · Jan 2, 2015

Free Money I would let it Ride GL..

BigdaddyQH · Jan 2, 2015

Forget about these guys who keep screaming to buy the hook. It has cost them plenty of money and has not come even close to figuring in the final score of a game. Stick to what you have.

pizzap · Jan 2, 2015

personally, i'd throw $200 on the ohiost ML at +220 and sit back and enjoy the game stress free. No matter which team wins, you should pocket around $720 (initial bet already taken out). i think the ohiost ML will probably go down so you want to put this in early. either way nice future bets on both teams, wish i had those tickets :103631605

NoCoke · Jan 2, 2015

Who do you think will win? If Oregon, leave it how it is. If Ohio State, hedge like pizzap mentioned. I think Oregon is going to win so I would leave it.

BernieVegas · Jan 2, 2015

Yes listen to these guys above who shit out whatever brains they have daily...

IF OHIO STATE WINS the game based on your futures you would have invested $360.72 to win $499.80. Hardly a windfall on your investment BUT the braintards above who have shit for brains couldn't figure that out. BigDaddy has proved dozens of times he has shit for brains so his comments don't surprise me.

Im looking at the best possible way for you to maximize profits. People without a brain wouldn't understand it so the above comments don't surprise me.

Good Luck on Whatever you decide but listening to BigDaddy you might as well be in the nut house

Yours in Winners
BernieV

BigDaddy also known as BrainTard it only costs you money buying the hook if you lose jackass but you wouldn't know that duh!!!!

ERockMoney · Jan 2, 2015

It looks like you can get Ohio State on the ML around +230. If you want to lock in a even profit regardless of the outcome throw $197.50 on the Ohio State ML, which guarantees a proft of around $731-$732.

Wanger · Jan 2, 2015

If you are going to hedge a little on Ohio St ML don't wait for a better price because just like the Super Bowl the + money price will only go down.

JeffTheNit · Jan 2, 2015

BernieVegas said:
Ohio State +7.5 ( yes buy the half point) and pray that Oregon wins by 7pts or less. The best scenario for YOU!!!

Yours in Winners
BernieV

*****further note you'd be getting one LIVE DOG!!!

What he said, a middle hedge gives you the best way to maximize your profits.

yanks11pm · Jan 2, 2015

Jeff The Nit said:
What he said, a middle hedge gives you the best way to maximize your profits.

I think this is the best idea. I thought Oregon was the best team and that's why I laid the most on them and I took TCU and Ohio State thinking that they were both playing hot and betting on the hot teams is what I like to do. But I am an Ohio State fan in CFB and will take the points and if Oregon squeezes out a tight win then I maximize profits but if not Ohio State winning is my best outcome as a fan.

MookieOO · Jan 2, 2015

1. First and foremost, ALWAYS ignore BigDaddyQH. He's is a moronic fucktard, but he has no clue that's the case.

2. While Bernie's argument makes sense, it's not as simple as he made it out to be.

Under your current arrangement, you win $706.37 if the Ducks win and $206.18 if the Buckeyes win.

If you add to your current position a $190 ML bet on OSU at +265, you will win $519.68 if the Buckeyes win and $516.37 if the Ducks win. You can take a little more or a little less of the Buckeyes if you increase or decrease, respectively, the size of the Buckeye ML play.

The Buckeye+7.5 situation is much more complicated, but the net result is it hurts you when the Buckeyes win. Following are four OSU+7.5 bets (50, 100, 150, and 200) at -125:

OSU+7.5	50	40		OSU+7.5	100	80
	343.62				393.62
Oregon Blowout Win			656.37	Oregon Blowout Win			606.37
Oregon Win no cover			696.37	Oregon Win no cover			646.37
OSU Win			196.18	OSU Win			146.18

OSU+7.5	150	120		OSU+7.5	200	160
	443.62				493.62
Oregon Blowout Win			556.37	Oregon Blowout Win			506.37
Oregon Win no cover			596.37	Oregon Win no cover			546.37
OSU Win			96.18	OSU Win			46.18

If I were in your shoes, I'd hedge with the Buckeyes on the ML --- but that's my preference. Good luck to you no matter what you decide.

-Mookie

yanks11pm · Jan 2, 2015

Wow thank you for pointing that out. I'll just take the ML then and sprinkle a tiny bit on OSU with the points or the under

tmader7 · Jan 2, 2015

Mookie, who are you betting with??? He plays O.State on the ML, 190 to win 265, and O.State wins, he gets 546.88. The Ducks win, he gets 671.49. Last time I checked, you get your bet back if you win, plus the winnings. Do the math. That being said, I think Bernie has the right idea with O.State +7+.

~T~

RRC · Jan 2, 2015

I think you're asking how to guarantee yourself the max profits possible? If yes, minus the math equations... you should bet $119.07 on Buckeyes to win with 3.2 odds.

You're Guaranteed a profit of $520.10 either way.

If Buckeyes Win and you bet 119.07 * 3.2 odds = 381.02
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 499.80 - Futures wagers 360.72 + 381.02 = $520.10

If Ducks Win.
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 999.99 - Futures wagers 360.72 - 119.07 (Bet on Buckeyes to Win) = $520.10

If you want the algebra equations on how to figure that out, i can post em if you want.

Good Job man! That's an awesome situation!

The smart play is to bet the $119.07 on the Buckeyes and lock in your guaranteed profits. I've been in those situations and it's hard for me to do what 'should' be done or what the 'smart' play is because I like gambling and i like the risk. Personally, I think the Ducks are gonna kick the shit out of the Buckeyes. And by way, way more than 7. So I'd bet the $120 on the Ducks and go for more (Ducks Win $1100 profit, Buckeyes Win $380) ! It's too bad it's not the other way around... I guess if you think the Buckeyes are gonna win, you're sitting pretty, cuz you've got profits locked up and you could bet on more on the buckeyes and rest assured you're going to get profit. For me, it'd be hard for to put money on the Buckeyes to win.

Really, the smart play is to put $119.07 on on the Buckeyes to win and lock in your guaranteed $520.10.

Then take that $520.10 and double-down on the Lions-Cowboys Over 48!

RRC · Jan 2, 2015

RRC said:
I think you're asking how to guarantee yourself the max profits possible? If yes, minus the math equations... you should bet $119.07 on Buckeyes to win with 3.2 odds.

You're Guaranteed a profit of $520.10 either way.

If Buckeyes Win and you bet 119.07 * 3.2 odds = 381.02
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 499.80 - Futures wagers 360.72 + 381.02 = $520.10

If Ducks Win.
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 999.99 - Futures wagers 360.72 - 119.07 (Bet on Buckeyes to Win) = $520.10

If you want the algebra equations on how to figure that out, i can post em if you want.

Good Job man! That's an awesome situation!

The smart play is to bet the $119.07 on the Buckeyes and lock in your guaranteed profits. I've been in those situations and it's hard for me to do what 'should' be done or what the 'smart' play is because I like gambling and i like the risk. Personally, I think the Ducks are gonna kick the shit out of the Buckeyes. And by way, way more than 7. So I'd bet the $120 on the Ducks and go for more (Ducks Win $1100 profit, Buckeyes Win $380) ! It's too bad it's not the other way around... I guess if you think the Buckeyes are gonna win, you're sitting pretty, cuz you've got profits locked up and you could bet on more on the buckeyes and rest assured you're going to get profit. For me, it'd be hard for to put money on the Buckeyes to win.

Really, the smart play is to put $119.07 on on the Buckeyes to win and lock in your guaranteed $520.10.

Then take that $520.10 and double-down on the Lions-Cowboys Over 48!

Sorry, forgot to account for the initial bet amount... so with 3.2 odds, your winnings are only 2.2

Thus, you should bet $156.28 on the Buckeyes to Win @ 3.2 odds.

Guaranteed Profits of $482.90

RRC · Jan 2, 2015

RRC said:
Sorry, forgot to account for the initial bet amount... so with 3.2 odds, your winnings are only 2.2

Thus, you should bet $156.28 on the Buckeyes to Win @ 3.2 odds.

Guaranteed Profits of $482.90

If Buckeyes Win and you bet 156.28 * 3.2 odds - 156.28 initial bet = 343.81
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 499.80 - Futures wagers 360.72 + 343.81 = $482.90

If Ducks Win.
- Total Winnings = Futures Payout 999.99 - Futures wagers 360.72 - 152.68 (Bet on Buckeyes to Win) = $482.9