NBA 2008-09, Week 2 thread...

[brewers7]

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Sides: 27-19-1
#1 picks: 5-2

Totals: 25-22
#1 picks: 1-6
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Day 8:

Random Thoughts:

Unders are 31-16 to this point, so the defenses are well ahead of the offenses to this point...Underdogs are 25-22, after starting 12-6...

Phoenix starts a 4 games in 5 nights stint (my favorite trend to track) tonight in New Jersey and the early surprise here is that with Coach D'Antoni out of town, the Suns have gone Over in all 3 games this years, while the Knicks only went Over in their opener with D'Antoni at the helm...Has Vegas over-adjusted these total lines thus far?...NJ has played 2 Unders in 2 games...These 2 teams have gone Under 5-of-6 and 7-of-9 overall h2h...But why does my gut tell me Over?...Well, I am not making it my #1 total so it actually has a chance to go Over, I guess...

I would jump all over Houston here in this spot except that the Celtics were 11-5 ATS coming off losses last year and 3-0 ATS after losses of 10 points or more in the regular season...The Celts did not lose a game by 20 or more points in the regular season (although they did in the playoffs and did not cover that one)...Celts coming off a bad loss at Indy, losing by 16 (Boston's largest losing margin was 18 last year pre-playoffs)...But I believe Houston has the better motivational spot here, which trumps the good spot for the Celtics...Boston ended the Rockets' shocking 22-game winning streak last year (2nd best in league history) with a 94-74 thrashing at Houston on March 18...No Yao Ming for that one, though...No Shane Battier this time, but Ron Artest is an equitable replacement...What was even more impressive about the Celtics' win last year was they had just beaten SA by a bucket the night before at SA, so they were on the back-end of a tought back-to-back and HOU had 1 day's rest for that one...Anyway, the Celts don't have Posey this year and that will make a difference, and it may show up tonight...Can't help but like the Under, but to me the side is the play here...And I think this game line may move to 4 by game time...

The Mavs were not good last year in back-enders, going 6-10-1 ATS, and the Spurs are 0-2 to start this young season...It looks like both of these teams are going to be 5-thru-8 seeds this year...5 of the last 7 h2h have gone Under...I give the nod to the Spurs here only because they are winless, but I'll be watching this one from the sidelines with my money firmly placed in my wallet as I am not touching this one with a bet...Oh, and I'll be watching this game during the commercials of the Bos/Hou game as that is the game I want to see...

Sides:

#1 Hou -2
#2 SA -3.5
#3 NJ +5.5

Totals

#1 Hou un 178
#2 NJ ov 204
#3 SA ov 189


NO BETS

I really want to bet the Rockets here, but I will probably take one more day off and try and line up a game or two on Wednesday since we have 13 games on the board...I more or less want to just enjoy watching that game...If the line remains at 2, maybe I'll grab it later, but I doubt it, I see it sliding upward...

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[Get-Money]

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Sides: 27-19-1
#1 picks: 5-2

Totals: 25-22
#1 picks: 1-6
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Day 8:

Random Thoughts:

Unders are 31-16 to this point, so the defenses are well ahead of the offenses to this point...Underdogs are 25-22, after starting 12-6...

Phoenix starts a 4 games in 5 nights stint (my favorite trend to track) tonight in New Jersey and the early surprise here is that with Coach D'Antoni out of town, the Suns have gone Over in all 3 games this years, while the Knicks only went Over in their opener with D'Antoni at the helm...Has Vegas over-adjusted these total lines thus far?...NJ has played 2 Unders in 2 games...These 2 teams have gone Under 5-of-6 and 7-of-9 overall h2h...But why does my gut tell me Over?...Well, I am not making it my #1 total so it actually has a chance to go Over, I guess...

I would jump all over Houston here in this spot except that the Celtics were 11-5 ATS coming off losses last year and 3-0 ATS after losses of 10 points or more in the regular season...The Celts did not lose a game by 20 or more points in the regular season (although they did in the playoffs and did not cover that one)...Celts coming off a bad loss at Indy, losing by 16 (Boston's largest losing margin was 18 last year pre-playoffs)...But I believe Houston has the better motivational spot here, which trumps the good spot for the Celtics...Boston ended the Rockets' shocking 22-game winning streak last year (2nd best in league history) with a 94-74 thrashing at Houston on March 18...No Yao Ming for that one, though...No Shane Battier this time, but Ron Artest is an equitable replacement...What was even more impressive about the Celtics' win last year was they had just beaten SA by a bucket the night before at SA, so they were on the back-end of a tought back-to-back and HOU had 1 day's rest for that one...Anyway, the Celts don't have Posey this year and that will make a difference, and it may show up tonight...Can't help but like the Under, but to me the side is the play here...And I think this game line may move to 4 by game time...

The Mavs were not good last year in back-enders, going 6-10-1 ATS, and the Spurs are 0-2 to start this young season...It looks like both of these teams are going to be 5-thru-8 seeds this year...5 of the last 7 h2h have gone Under...I give the nod to the Spurs here only because they are winless, but I'll be watching this one from the sidelines with my money firmly placed in my wallet as I am not touching this one with a bet...Oh, and I'll be watching this game during the commercials of the Bos/Hou game as that is the game I want to see...

Sides:

#1 Hou -2
#2 SA -3.5
#3 NJ +5.5

Totals

#1 Hou un 178
#2 NJ ov 204
#3 SA ov 189


NO BETS

I really want to bet the Rockets here, but I will probably take one more day off and try and line up a game or two on Wednesday since we have 13 games on the board...I more or less want to just enjoy watching that game...If the line remains at 2, maybe I'll grab it later, but I doubt it, I see it sliding upward...

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Words of advice: Past results do not guarantee future performance...Tail me when I am hot... Fade me when I am cold...Nobody wins every day...Only bet what you can afford to lose...
Try not to chase losses...Tomorrow is another day...This is a marathon, not a sprint...
Patience and Persistence...Do your homework...Use Money Management…Stay humble…
Bet with your head, not over it...Act professional…
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very well put my man........

just waiting for u to catch fire......

i like the spurs tonight..

 

[detroitguy311]

Good read. I'm trying to read into stuff like that becuase you put it well... I chase losses like the biggest moron constantly. Last year I was on fire... almost a 3/1 win loss ratio ... lost a couple and tried to catch back up. Dumb... ended the season up a few bucks but it could have been great if I wasn't retarded. Going to try to stay on here for the whole season this time and bet smart-- do my research and make my picks.

Good luck. I'll definetly be checking in on your threads a lot.

 

[thekid78]

Good info as always and respect your patience. GL this week Brew!

 

[LuCaniTy]

I like to read your thread whenever you post it man, it's like a reminder to my money management problem I had in the past and it wasn't pretty

 

[brewers7]

Thanx guys and GL...

Good read. I'm trying to read into stuff like that becuase you put it well... I chase losses like the biggest moron constantly. Last year I was on fire... almost a 3/1 win loss ratio ... lost a couple and tried to catch back up. Dumb... ended the season up a few bucks but it could have been great if I wasn't retarded. Going to try to stay on here for the whole season this time and bet smart-- do my research and make my picks.

Good luck. I'll definetly be checking in on your threads a lot.

When I was younger I did the same thing...I would get way up, winning money hand-over-fist (and I did a mini-martingale betting strategy using my #1 sides) and then BAM...One bad streak with my #1 sides and I lost in 1 week everything I had gained in 2 months, and I would then sit down and look at the carnage and ask myself, "How the hell did that happen?"...My #1 sides winning percentage is incredible and I am right around even if not down a little money and then I'd end the season just betting very small amounts because now I was AFRAID to lose and I'd end the season making what amounted to pizza money while I am staring at a good winning percentage with all the bets I made...That was about 12 years ago, when I just started betting and it took me a couple of years to break that very bad habit...

Maybe I am being too conservative right now, but I'd rather be too conservative than too aggressive as I have experienced being too aggressive and when it worked out, it was GREAT, but when it didn't, it was TERRIBLE, and I am trying to eliminate the extremes of the highs and the lows and keep things on an even plane as much as I can, because I still feel the highs and the lows, even just betting 2.5% of my bankroll with the wins and losses...

 

[ZJP6050]

you're not being too conservative my man...you're being incredibly disciplined

 

[SaltyVeteran]

Great shit in here brewers. Thanks

 

[SaltyVeteran]

Thanx guys and GL...


Maybe I am being too conservative right now, but I'd rather be too conservative than too aggressive as I have experienced being too aggressive and when it worked out, it was GREAT, but when it didn't, it was TERRIBLE, and I am trying to eliminate the extremes of the highs and the lows and keep things on an even plane as much as I can, because I still feel the highs and the lows, even just betting 2.5% of my bankroll with the wins and losses...

Negative. These teams have played 3 games. A lot of the situational plays are not even close to presenting themselves yet. Nothing wrong with waiting a couple weeks to see how things shake down. The public perception of some teams are already starting to take on a life of their own whether too much love or not enough. I'm approaching things the same way right now. No need to force. Good Luck.

 

[rudelef]

ope:Salty

 

[brewers7]

Negative. These teams have played 3 games. A lot of the situational plays are not even close to presenting themselves yet. Nothing wrong with waiting a couple weeks to see how things shake down. The public perception of some teams are already starting to take on a life of their own whether too much love or not enough. I'm approaching things the same way right now. No need to force. Good Luck.

Yeah, you are spot-on with this post, Salty...

I guess I feel I am being conservative because for some reason, the last 4 NBA seasons, I started red-hot out of the gate...But the previous 10 or 12 seasons, I was pretty much break-even until mid-December, then I would go on some unreal runs from mid-december to mid-february or mid-january through mid-march...

But you nailed it, Salty, situationally, there isn't much established yet and you are also right about the early public perception...Good post...

It's a good post because the NBA season is 170 days long...Today is Day 8...So there are 162 more days in the regular season to sniff out the great situational spots that arise every season and then there's 2 more months of playoffs...No need to push...The only situational spot that has really come up so far this season is the one I mentioned where:

A playoff team is playing the team that eliminated them last year for the first time this season and the team that got eliminated that has the "revenge" spot is 3-0 ATS this season (DEN covered vs LAL a few days ago)...

 

[brewers7]

Random thoughts for Wednesday:

Glad I didn't bet anything as I was 0-3 with my Sides AND Totals last night and if you count the half-time play that I THOUGHT about and ALMOST bet (but didn't), then I was 0-7 on the night...A monkey can do better...Hopefully I will do better tonight...

Unders now 33-17 on the season...Underdogs 27-23...

DET at TOR -- Looks like Iverson will play as there is no line out yet...He may make this team better later in the season, but right away??...Sheed didn't seem too ecstatic with the trade at first...So you ask how did Denver do when Iverson made his debut with the Nuggets?...Well it was on 12/22/06, and Iverson came off the bench and played 39+ minutes and shot well (9-for-15 from the floor for 22 points), but Denver lost at Home to SAC as 2.5 chalk 101-96...Now Denver was missing Camby due to a hand injury and Melo and JR Smith were suspended for that fracus at MSG with "toughie" Nate Robinson and others...I think Vegas will establish the Raptors as 4-point chalk here, maybe even 4.5 or 5...If it's less than 4, then I like Toronto a lot...DET 3-0 to the Over and TOR 3-0 to the Under in regulation time this season (Raps had an OT-aided Over) as 5 of the last 7 h2h have gone Under...

PHOE at IND -- Indy coming off a 16-point win over BOS, and they have 3 days rest here and the Suns are on a back-ender and are 0-1 SU and ATS in this spot this season...Did Indy play well or did BOS play bad in that loss?...BOS gave the credit to Indy, but BOS had 24 turnovers, shot 34.6% from the floor and 60% from the FT line...Not going to beat any NBA team with numbers like that...Indy went Over vs. DET and quite frankly, the BOS game was an Over pace (159 shots and 62 FTs attempted) but the shooting on both sides was horrid...PHOE, in essence, should have had 4 Overs in 4 games, but a 31-point 4Q last night as NJ scored a whopping 9 points in the 4Q provided for a miracle Under last night...Over looks good...Side is a stay-away for me as Indy is in a slight let-down spot and PHOE is coming off a 63.2% shooting night last night which is an automatic fade for me against that team the next time out...

PHI at MIA -- Do we really need to wait on Marion's status here before Vegas puts a line out?...No line yet...Philly has covered 5 straight vs. the Heat and 5 of the last 6 have gone Under h2h...Philly has ORL up next, so possible look-ahead, but I doubt it because after blowing a 23-point lead in ATL 4 days ago, Mo Cheeks won't let this team lose focus this time (I would hope)...Philly probably 2.5 or 3-point chalk here...

CHAR at NY -- Should I do it again?...Take NY Over?...Knicks have covered 3 of the last 4 in this series and 3 straight have gone Over...Got to believe Larry Brown will be pulling out every stop to get a win at MSG in his first game back since his coaching debacle there for a season...This total looks too juicy for me...Be hard for me not to take one more shot at a Knicks Over as Charlotte did get 35 FT attempts against DET last time out so if they accomplished that vs. DET, they should have no problem repeating that performance or getting more FTs against the Knicks porous defense...

BOS at OKC -- Thunder yet to have an Over in 3 games and I would expect the Celtics to tighten the screws on defense tonight after a high-scoring affair at HOU last night...I hate laying big Road chalk, but BOS proved last year that let-down spots don't happen with them as they beat HOU last year at HOU to snap their 22-game win streak, and they beat them by 20 after defeating SA at SA the night before by a bucket...They then went on to beat DAL at DAL 2 nights later...

ATL at NO -- No line as we wait for the status of Chandler and Peja for the Hornets...NO has won and covered the last 4 in this series with 2 Overs at NO and 2 Unders at ATL...Battle of unbeatens and that is no surprise for the Hornets but nobody expected ATL to be 2-0...ATL 2-0 to the Under and NO 3-0 to the Over thus far...

CH at CLE -- 7.5 or 8 points looks like a lot here to me...Both teams 2-2 as they have gotten there different ways with CLE doing the LWLW thing and CHI going WLWL...So this means CLE wins this one, right?...If only it was this simple, but even if it was this simple, this doesn't account for the all-important point-spread and who will cover that...Both teams 3-1 ATS...The Bulls have won and covered 3 straight in this series...

SA at MIN -- Ok, SA has won 10 of 11 and are 7-3-1 ATS in those games h2h vs. Minny...But people are saying that the Spurs are suddenly washed up after starting this season 0-3 SU & ATS, especially after that Home debacle last night against the Mavs...Oh, and SA is a bad back-end of a back-to-back team, too...Thing is, as bad as they were the past few seasons in that spot, they were also THAT GOOD in the front-end of those bk-2-bk'ers...And didn't everyone just write off Dallas 24 hours ago after CLE destroyed them at DAL and then the Mavs were playing the Spurs on a back-ender and the Mavs had absolutely no chance to win that game?...What happened again?...Ahh, yes, that's right, the Mavs did destroy the Spurs last night at SA...That "sad-sack" DAL team beat Minny by 10 at Minny, and this Spurs' price is opening cheap, so get on board before it goes up to 4.5 or 5...As far as the total goes, 5 of the last 6 and 7 of the last 9 have gone Over h2h...

WAS at MILW -- No line as we wait to see if Michael Redd plays...I may be wrong stating that MILW is a "chameleon" team as perhaps they are trying to establish themselves as a half-court set team...3 straight Unders, and those Unders went Under the Vegas total by about 60 points...I'll be watching...

PORT at UTAH -- The Blazers beat this team 3 out of 4 times last year SU and all 3 of those games went Under, while the Utah win went Over...But without Deron Williams, the Jazz are 3-0 to the Under, averaging about 15 PPG Under the Vegas total...PORT has gone Over 2 straight...Not sure about the total, but I like the points, despite the Blazers being 0-2 SU and ATS on the Road so far...

MEMP at SAC -- Kings missing Miller and Garcia...MEMP establishing themselves early as a stone Under team...4-0 to the Under and they've been a league-best 110 points Under the Vegas total number this season in their games...SAC started that way before flying Over the last 2 games of their Road trip...Home opener for SAC, and they are historically MUCH better at ARCO...But MEMP has covered 4 straight and 6 of 7 h2h here...SAC looks like the pick at first blush...

DEN at GS -- No line...Looks like Billups won't play but McDyess might which is strange to me...Maggette is questionable for GS...I usually LOVE this match-up Over, but Vegas has so over-inflated these totals since the 06-07 season that 4 of the last 5 have gone Under h2h...I am super-curious to see where Vegas puts this total...

LAC at LAL -- I guess the Lakers fans and the theatre-like lighting at Staples for "Lakers" home games is a lot different than the Clippers fans and the "normal" arena lighting that they have at Staples because the line shift from their last meeting a week ago is BIG as the Lakers opened at 9 or 9.5 chalk a week ago and now they are at 15 point chalk tonight to open...I don't believe the different colors on the floor or the cheerleaders for these home games make a difference...This line is perception based, and apparently they haven't made it high enough as the public seems to be on the Lakers early here...The Lake-show have pummeled the Clips in 5 straight with winning margins of 38, 28, 37, 18 & 21 the last 5 games...I wasn't a math major in college, but I don't need a calculator to know that the average margin of victory for these games = A LOT...4 straight Unders here h2h, which makes sense because usually blowouts = Unders...

 

[nastradamus]

I like your thoughts brewers! I´m in Spurs -3,5 and waiting for Philly line.

GL tonight

 

[brewers7]

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Sides: 27-22-1
#1 picks: 5-3

Totals: 25-25
#1 picks: 1-7
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Day 9:

Random Thoughts already posted...A lot of line-moves today...My #1 totals have been atrocious, losing 6 straight now and 7 of 8 to start the year, but I am hoping tonight will be the end of the bad streak as the non-stop Unders to this point of the season has provided some value in some of these totals that cannot be ignored...

Sides:

#1 GS -3.5
#2 Tor -3.5
#3 Chi +9
#4 Phi -3
#5 Port +6.5
#6 Sac -3
#7 LAC +13.5
#8 Phoe -3.5
#9 OKC +9
#10 Atl +8.5
#11 SA -5
#12 Char +5
#13 Was +1

Totals

#1 NY ov 206
#2 GS ov 206.5
#3 Tor un 181
#4 OKC un 183
#5 LAC un 195
#6 SA un 181
#7 Port un 188.5
#8 Sac un 193.5
#9 Phoe ov 204.5
#10 Phi un 190.5
#11 Atl ov 194.5
#12 Chi ov 186.5
#13 Was un 188.5

Bet:

Level 1 -- Charlotte/New York over 204.5, laying $275 to win $250 -- Line was at 203 last night and I almost bet it, but figured "how much can it really move in 8 hours?"...Well it was at 206 earlier...I waited and it is dropping again and you can get it at this total with positive juice at the moment at Pinny...I am taking one more shot here at a Knicks Over...NY is dead last in the league in FG%...Can only improve...This Unders domination with NBA totals will turnaround at some point...I am looking for a ton of FTs tonight from both teams which will hopefully get us more points...Pace should be ok tonight...I just cannot see a D'Antoni offense being stifled yet again, and even though Larry Brown loves defense, he's got some athletes with the Bobcats who probably arn't going to mind running up and down the floor in this one for long spurts...

Level 1 -- Denver/Golden State over 53, 1Q, laying $275 to win $250 -- I simply cannot help myself here...Golden State is a much different team at Home than on the Road...A lot more Overs at Home...That arena is electric when they play there, you can almost feel the energy, and the Warriors feed off that energy...I realize that the personnel is completely different with both teams now from a year ago and we have a trade and injuries here to factor in, and I realize that Denver is 6th in the league in defense in terms of FG% allowed, so I guess the Nuggets' players weren't just whistling Dixie in the preseason when they said they were focused on defense...But there was a good article on a blog that talked about Denver and their defense last years in terms of points allowed per possession and not points per game, and I believe DEN was 29th last year defensive in terms of PPG, but were somewhere around 9th to 14h in terms of allowing points per possession...Just one look at the insane totals these 2 have played the last 2 seasons lends one to believe that you have a bargain times two with tonight's line, but I'll take the 1Q Over because there is no doubt in my mind that the pace will be an Over pace in the 1Q for sure tonight...just need the shots to go in and some dunks and lay-ups in transition for both teams won't hurt, either...

Again, at Level 1, I am betting to win 2.5% of that starting bankroll...If the bankroll changes a bit as the season progresses, then the betting amount will change...

GL...
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[oChRoNiCo]

gl man CHA/NYK OVER was my #4 play for tonight i also liked that DET/TOR UNDER your #3 play was my #5 play tonight best of luck with all your plays hopefully we can both come out ahead tonight

 

[homedawg]

daily must read. thanks for the insight and BOL

 

[seriousaddiction]

great stuff....really like the 3q over at 53..my only beef is not knowing how the pace of the game is. I'm assuming it will be at a good enough pace to sore over 53 though..BOL

 

[Jstack34]

At least your second bet was a winner, over with 2 mins left in the quarter

 

[homedawg]

Bet:

Level 1 -- Charlotte/New York over 204.5, laying $275 to win $250 -- Line was at 203 last night and I almost bet it, but figured "how much can it really move in 8 hours?"...Well it was at 206 earlier...I waited and it is dropping again and you can get it at this total with positive juice at the moment at Pinny...I am taking one more shot here at a Knicks Over...NY is dead last in the league in FG%...Can only improve...This Unders domination with NBA totals will turnaround at some point...I am looking for a ton of FTs tonight from both teams which will hopefully get us more points...Pace should be ok tonight...I just cannot see a D'Antoni offense being stifled yet again, and even though Larry Brown loves defense, he's got some athletes with the Bobcats who probably arn't going to mind running up and down the floor in this one for long spurts...

Pathetic 4th quarter does us in. Just don't think the Knicks can shoot well enough to play overs in the 200's. I'm going to have to try to stick to this since this is the 3rd Knick over I have been burned on.

Nice call on GS/Den Over. Easy winner

 

[brewers7]

At least your second bet was a winner, over with 2 mins left in the quarter

Thanx...

Knicks game was painful as I went to the kitchen for a snack with 5:40 left in the game and only needing 18 points for the Over after they scored 30 the first 6 minutes of the 4Q...I mentally wrote the win down in my head...So to come back to the TV and see just 8 points in 5 1/2 minutes and not even getting a foul-fest at the end was painful...

Bad luck there, but there's a LONG way to go...

I miss Pinnacle...Could have had plus-juice for that loss...

So a good lesson to folks following...

I am 4-4 and down $100 (all juice) and had I been using Pinny, I'd probably be down maybe $10 or $15 for juice...Already early on, the importance of lowering or eliminating juice is evident...