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Nate Silver's Very Very Wrong Predictions About Donald Trump Are Terrifying



Nobody knows what the future holds. That’s what makes it so interesting—and often terrifying. But it’s become increasingly clear that the person who knows the least about the future is the one that everybody has been turning to for answers about the future of American politics: Nate Silver, the founder of FiveThirtyEight.

Nate Silver emerged as Our National Oracle™ after successfully predicting many of the results in the 2008 election. But as Silver’s satirical counterpart, Carl Diggler, has proven time and again, you may as well just be going with gut instinct based on Silver’s terrible track record since 2008.

Nobody knows if Donald Trump will win. But one thing that has become clear is that prediction models about elections are virtually worthless. Silver’s current hedging about who will win on Tuesday sounds like word salad.

“[E]verything depends on one’s assumptions, but I think that our assumptions—a Clinton lead, sure, but high uncertainty—has repeatedly been validated by the evidence we’ve seen over the course of the past several months,” Silver told Politico in a story published today. “The idea that she’s a prohibitive, 95 percent-plus favorite is hard to square with polling that has frequently shown 5- or 6-point swings within the span of a couple weeks, given that she only leads by 3 points or so now.”

The long and the short of it? Silver has no fucking idea. Looking at past visions of the future—especially failed predictions—is kind of our jam here at Paleofuture. So I’ve collected a few of the highlights from FiveThirtyEight, written by Silver and others, below. Emphasis mine.

Why Donald Trump Isn’t a Real Candidate, In One Chart


June 16, 2015
Taking into account name recognition, Trump’s net favorability rating (favorable minus unfavorable) of -32 percentage points stands out for its pure terribleness at this point in the campaign. Like his unfavorable rating, it is by far the worst of the 106 presidential candidates since 1980 who are in our database.

For this reason alone, Trump has a better chance of cameoing in another “Home Alone” movie with Macaulay Culkin — or playing in the NBA Finals — than winning the Republican nomination.

Donald Trump Is The World’s Greatest Troll

July 20, 2015

Trump has taken trolling to the next level by being willing to offend members of his own party. Ordinarily, this would be a counterproductive strategy. In a 16-candidate field, however, you can be in first place with 15 or 20 percent of the vote — even if the other 80 or 85 percent of voters hate your guts.

In the long run — as our experience with past trolls shows — Trump’s support will probably fade. Or at least, given his high unfavorable ratings, it will plateau, and other candidates will surpass him as the rest of the field consolidates.

August 5th podcast

Nate Silver predicted that Donald Trump had a 2 percent chance of winning the nomination. Katherine Miller of Buzzfeed put it at 0 percent. And FiveThirtyEight’s Harry Enten? Negative 10 percent.

Predictions from August 5, 2015 about Donald Trump’s chances of winning the Republican nomination for president (FiveThirtyEight)

Donald Trump Is Winning the Polls—And Losing the Nomination

August 11, 2015

At FiveThirtyEight, however, we’re fairly agnostic about what will happen to Trump’s polling in the near term. It’s possible that he’s already peaked — or that he’ll hold his support all the way through Iowa and New Hampshire, possibly even winning one or two early states, as similar candidates like Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich have in the past. Our emphatic prediction is simply that Trump will not win the nomination. It’s not even clear that he’s trying to do so.

Was the Second Debate The Beginning of the End For Donald Trump?

September 24, 2015
Donald Trump: The polls clearly show Trump losing ground after his showdown with Fiorina. Even though a number of Republicans thought he won the debate, a larger percentage of Republicans said he did the worst job in it. Zogby was the only poll that had Trump gaining ground after the debate, and Zogby’s Internet polls earned an “F” in the FiveThirtyEight pollster ratings. One cautionary note, though: Polls after the first debate also found Trump falling, but that drop didn’t last.

Republicans Don’t Like Donald Trump As Much As They Used To

October 2, 2015

None of this means that Trump can’t or won’t win votes. Pat Buchanan won a bunch of votes during the 1996 Republican primary despite being unpopular with a large segment of the Republican base. And the fact that Trump’s support has dipped doesn’t mean it’ll drop to zero, or even that it will keep falling.

But Trump looks more and more like, at best, a factional candidate — he may have a core of supporters, but he lacks the appeal to build a coalition broad enough to win the nomination.

Dear Media, Stop Freaking Out About Donald Trump’s Polls

November 23, 2015
So, could Trump win? We confront two stubborn facts: first, that nobody remotely like Trump has won a major-party nomination in the modern era. And second, as is always a problem in analysis of presidential campaigns, we don’t have all that many data points, so unprecedented events can occur with some regularity. For my money, that adds up to Trump’s chances being higher than 0 but (considerably) less than 20 percent. Your mileage may vary. But you probably shouldn’t rely solely on the polls to make your case; it’s still too soon for that.

Trump Boom Or Trump Bubble?

December 15, 2015

My guess is that most of these eventualities represent more downside than upside for Trump, simply because his dominance of the news cycle is so complete right now that other candidates almost can’t help but catch up. One of the usual rewards for winning Iowa or New Hampshire is a massive increase in media coverage, but Trump already has plenty of it. If Cruz or Rubio were to win one of those states, conversely, the newly won attention could help them convert their broad acceptability across the Republican electorate into first place in the polls and in future states.

So far, however, Trump has exploited every opportunity to keep his momentum going. And even if his candidacy is a bubble, there’s a chance that it won’t burst until after he’s started racking up delegates and primary wins.

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Silver’s current hedging about who will win on Tuesday sounds like word salad.

“[E]verything depends on one’s assumptions, but I think that our assumptions—a Clinton lead, sure, but high uncertainty—has repeatedly been validated by the evidence we’ve seen over the course of the past several months,” Silver told Politico in a story published today. “The idea that she’s a prohibitive, 95 percent-plus favorite is hard to square with polling that has frequently shown 5- or 6-point swings within the span of a couple weeks, given that she only leads by 3 points or so now.”

The long and the short of it? Silver has no fucking idea.

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And to think idiot liberals are hanging on Silver's every word!

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Trump better hope this dude doesn't pick him, since he's batting zero zero zero this year

"It's official, it's Rubio", LMFAO, another classic
 

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Oh my god.....Willie and Joe mocking Election predictions

does it get any better:):)
 

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Trump better hope this dude doesn't pick him, since he's batting zero zero zero this year

"It's official, it's Rubio", LMFAO, another classic

Silver's a better fade than vitturd's tout plays.

The libtards argue he's just a "blind math guy" but anything posted on FiveThirtyEight reeks of that familiar DailyKos stench.

Even if his "numbers" indicated a Trump victory, Silver would NEVER predict Trump. NEVER, EVER, EVER NEVER!

And as you say, we don't want him to.

Nate Silver = another member of Loser Nation.
 

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BwaaaaHHHH!!!!! Joe hits at zero percent. Willie career 30 percent.....loses to akp money he can't afford to lose.

These guys talking about others. Lmao. Don't quote my post. Willie warned you!!!

what an alpha male you are joe.....tucked tail from a threat by a 5'2 140 lb pussy. Classic.
 

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Oh my god.....Willie and Joe mocking Election predictions

does it get any better:):)

No, it doesn't, brain dead cocksuckers ain't been right since they nodded "yes" to momma's breast milk and they're goofing on other people's predictions-in particular those of somebody who, over a long period of time, has an outstanding record. Clueless morons doesn't even BEGIN to describe them...
 

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No, it doesn't, brain dead cocksuckers ain't been right since they nodded "yes" to momma's breast milk and they're goofing on other people's predictions-in particular those of somebody who, over a long period of time, has an outstanding record. Clueless morons doesn't even BEGIN to describe them...

It does however begin to describe you.
 

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You've had plenty of opportunities to bet against Silver's analysis. And if you did so during the state primaries you lost big time, where he did better than the sportsbooks odds. Looking only at his writings from a year ago (or more) is retarded. In recent months Silver has given Trump a better chance than most prediction models, including betting markets.

His recent discussions focusing on probability vs uncertainly only sounds like word salad if you have an IQ under 70. A 14 point lead is far different in the first quarter than the fourth quarter. That 14 point lead in the first quarter may be worth as much as a 3 point lead late in the game in terms of probability. But the game just starting could turn into a major route (in either direction if we're looking at a game with a total in the 70s); whereas the close game near the end will finish as a close game.

Likewise, Clinton leading in the polls 42-37 is far different than Obama leading 48-46 at a similar time four years ago. Trump has always been behind, according to both Silver and the market, but he has had plenty of "time" (or in this case undecideds) to make it up.
 

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You've had plenty of opportunities to bet against Silver's analysis. And if you did so during the state primaries you lost big time, where he did better than the sportsbooks odds. Looking only at his writings from a year ago (or more) is retarded. In recent months Silver has given Trump a better chance than most prediction models, including betting markets.

His recent discussions focusing on probability vs uncertainly only sounds like word salad if you have an IQ under 70. A 14 point lead is far different in the first quarter than the fourth quarter. That 14 point lead in the first quarter may be worth as much as a 3 point lead late in the game in terms of probability. But the game just starting could turn into a major route (in either direction if we're looking at a game with a total in the 70s); whereas the close game near the end will finish as a close game.

Likewise, Clinton leading in the polls 42-37 is far different than Obama leading 48-46 at a similar time four years ago. Trump has always been behind, according to both Silver and the market, but he has had plenty of "time" (or in this case undecideds) to make it up.

Yep.....it's amazing the people bashing silver are the guys that have been wrong about every election.
 

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"Harry, you know the Cubs will choke, dodgers have a better pitching staff"---sheriff Joe

willie 40 percent picks are gold compared to Joe mush.
 

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"Harry, you know the Cubs will choke, dodgers have a better pitching staff"---sheriff Joe

willie 40 percent picks are gold compared to Joe mush.

"Scold them Scott I am begging you "!!!!!!!!!
All time classic bitch meltdown !!!!
 

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"Scold them Scott I am begging you "!!!!!!!!!
All time classic bitch meltdown !!!!

Loser Nation sucks at math too, no wonder we need to feed their kids
 

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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

Nate Silver just predicted Trump wins FLORIDA!

"Trump has a 52 percent chance of winning Florida, compared to only a 48 percent chance for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in the polls-only forecast published on 538. Trump made incredible progress in the state, coming up from a 22 percent chance as of Oct. 15. Clinton has fallen from a 78 percent chance of winning the state since Oct. 15.

"Trump has been doing much better in the polls, according to 538’s adjusted poll totals. The last two polls included in the analysis show the two candidates tied in the race, with Trump earning as much as a seven-point lead in a series of polls published last week.

"Silver’s adjusted polling average show Trump with 45.7 percent, compared to Clinton’s 45.4 percent. It is still a tight race, but Silver projects voter turnout will make all the difference. The statistician says that among those who vote in the state on Tuesday, 48.1 percent will vote for Trump, and 47.8 percent will choose Clinton."


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