My top books go in this order:.....Feel free to comment

[TEASERGURU]

1)Pinnacle 105
2)Skybook (free half)
3)IIS 105
4)Canbet 107
5)Bet Panam 107
6) Hollywood 107
All of the above offer something great. Anyone who thinks other books are as good or better that don't give them something back, don't bother responding as I don't consider you very intelligent. I would love to find more like these 6 great ones. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[lander]

Good list, and I agree with most of these selections except Canbet. If you are a pucks player you'll be VERY disapointed with Canbet and there 20 cent progressive puck line this year.

I'd go something like this.
1. Pinnacle - By a country mile.
2. Panam - 107, reload bonuses, opinionated
3. Hollywood 107, opinionated, great track record
4. IIS 105 -nickel limits/online only OR 107 online with dime limits (-110 for larger wagers)
5. Rio (Sky) - 1/2 points add up

6. Sirbet 108, opinionated.

All of these pay very fast.

[This message was edited by lander on October 21, 2003 at 04:38 PM.]

 

[TEASERGURU]

thanks lander, i think i will check out sirbet also. with 108 and an opinionated line, they are probably worth checking out. Thanks again.

 

[duke0907]

My top books in order:

Olympic-by far the best, in progress wagering, high limits, lightning fast payouts, courteous

Cris-the staple of the industry, deepest pockets of any book

Grande-fastest payouts in the industry

 

[TEASERGURU]

duke, i feel very sorry for you. If you think that because a book is courteous, large, and they send you a xmas card every year is a good reason to play there at 110 juice, you need to take up a new hobby. Unless you are a total wiseguy like BW, or a professional gambler, you have ZERO chance to overcome 110 juice. Crunch the numbers and see for yourself the difference between laying 110 and even 107. over the course of a season, it is astronomical. good luck duke, you are going to need it.

 

[valueman]

I'd agree that pinnacle is a good book but Betfair is a better book by far but sadly US customers are not accepted - Canadians are.

I say this because:

1 - The juice on most markets is much lower than any sports book.
2 - The ability to lay bets is something you can't do at most places.
3 - Horse racing turnover is second to none and no one can argue with getting 1-2% juice on a horse race.
4 - The ability to trade out in running is a fantastic feature that not many places have.
5 - They have more liquidity on their markets than elsewhere - $80million + traded a week.
6 - They are super safe.
7 - You can ask for your own odds if you are not happy with those being offered.

Whilst they don't offer the same range of markets on US sports as some books they still offer enough on the key markets to make it a MUST HAVE book if you are lucky enough to be in Canada.

I know SPV will have a go at me for this but he didn't respond to my previous thread - YOU KNOW YOU HAD NO ANSWER!

 

[PanchoSanza]

Olympic, Pinnacle, CRIS, GRANDE

Don't need much else.

 

[NickDouglas]

Why is it so terrible to bet with 10 cents vig? If you find a better line at -110 or if you wager larger amounts than are allowed at reduced juice books (500 at Sirbet, 500 at IIS, etc.), then you are getting an edge even though you are laying an extra 3 cents of vig.

I find it very stupid to make a statement like, "Anyone who thinks other books are as good or better that don't give something back, don't bother responding as I don't consider you very intelligent." Intelligence is doing your research on a book and finding which ones fit your playing style and not being lured by a little reduced vig on low limit bets that sometimes don't even include totals or hockey bets.

 

[TEASERGURU]

GOOD POINT NICK, THAT WAS A STUPID STATEMENT BY ME. IN FACT, IF THE POINTS ARE GREATLY IN MY FAVOR, I LAY 110 A LOT. I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT STATMENT WAS RIDICULOUS. GOOD LUCK.

 

[Sodium Pentethol V]

Valueidjit,

I choose to respond to folks who at least have a basic understanding of what they are talking about. IOW words if you're going to talk about horseracing know that WPS stand for win, place and show.

Figure out that there is more in horseracing than win or lose betting yet?

Betfair posting, place, show, exacta, quinnela, trifecta, superfecta, pik3,pik4 or pik6 betting yet?

Like I posted b4 at some point even a dolt like you will realize that number of permutations is just as important as takeout, still not holding my breath yet.

And BTW, if I chose to rape you at Betfair, it would be tooooooo easy, see schmucks that bet without video feeds, can't see animals that will not load and consequently do not run near expectations. To you that is just another low juice bet, to me it is just another schmuck backing an animal with no regard to anything other than tote price and betfair price.



Majorbetting-104 football fridays is nice in response to the original post.

 

[lander]

Why is it so terrible to bet with 10 cents vig? If you find a better line at -110 or if you wager larger amounts than are allowed at reduced juice books (500 at Sirbet, 500 at IIS, etc.), then you are getting an edge even though you are laying an extra 3 cents of vig.
Sure, but this is clearly the exception NOT the rule. 95% of your shopping will end at a reduced vig shop.

I find it very stupid to make a statement like, "Anyone who thinks other books are as good or better that don't give something back, don't bother responding as I don't consider you very intelligent." Intelligence is doing your research on a book and finding which ones fit your playing style and not being lured by a little reduced vig on low limit bets that sometimes don't even include totals or hockey bets.
If you're constantly paying more for the same bet then it's stupid. There are plenty of SAFE/FAST PAYING/LOW-VIG books out there. If you're not using them then, yeah, you're stupid. Why?

Say you're a nickel bettor. Every loss you have at a standard -110 (550/500) vs a -107 loss (535/500) cost you $15.

Say you lose 100 bets a year (low estimate IMO). You're out $1500.

 

[lander]

SP,
Is Majorbetting still slow paying?

 

[Duckstabber]

My top books in no particular order:

Betdaq
Betfair
Bet365
Centrebet
Pacific Sport Club
Pinnacle
Pointbet

Valueman,
I agree that Betfair is a must have book/exchange. But for the large majority of punters there's a 5% commission rate that makes it difficult to beat the lines at Pinnacle.

 

[orca]

What you guys think about MVPsportsbook.com and its family?

Just want to know if I'm making a good choice.

Thanks

 

[Sodium Pentethol V]

Lander I have as much money there as anywhere, and as long as he keep his limits low, and uses his decades of experience running his lines.

There never was nor ever will be slow pays.

But nice shot, hows that house built of cards, I mean debt, RIO doing these days?

 

[lander]

I thought we had mulitiple complaints of slow payouts my majorbetting? I believe OutandUp was getting the run-around, no?

As for Rio, couldnt' tell you. I haven't been funded in about 3 weeks as I lost my post up and there and haven't re-upped yet.

Did Freddy get his "decades" of experience in Rikers? Funny, because online gambling hasn't even existed for "decades", has it?

 

[KeithRichard]

Lander...You must call in your bets to get the 105 juice at IIS?

 

[Rogthedodger]

Carib -102 Tuesdays NFL

 

[lander]

Keith,
Apparently I've gotten it mixed up - it's 105 NET ONLY, call in for higher limits (> $500) at non-reduced juice.
Sorry for the misinformation.

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=41310326&p=1

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> *Program Restrictions:
Reduced juice specials are only applicable when wagering online.
Customers seeking to wager higher limits are welcomed to call their wagers in, but no juice discounts apply when calling.
Only one account allowed per household.
Certain other restrictions may apply. Call for details <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

[lander]

Ok, I just asked Rio & they confirm is "Is Online ONLY".

Again, sorry for the misinformation.