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LOL @ Rampage 1:12

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Boxing RTD : 15-4 + 94.4 units

MMA YTD : 41-20 + 45.10 units


First off all I am going to hedge an old pending bet :


Felix Sturm vs Sebastian Sylvester: WBA Middleweight Championship

My pick is FELIX STURM to win

Odds : - 245

Where : 5dimes

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UFC 92 - Heavyweight 5 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV Sat 12/27

Frank Mir vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

My pick is Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira to win

Odds : - 360

Combined odds : 1.80

10 units to win 8 units


Putting 4.16 units to win 13.14 units , + 316 at pinnaclesports on Frank Mir . If Nogueira wins I will be up 3.84 units if Frank Mir wins 3.14 units , going to count this as 1-0 bet . Just don't feel like throwing 1300 $ out of the window on a bet I can easily hedge even tho I still fancy Nogueira to win the fight .

Going to try and post any useful info I can find in this thread and hopefully earn few extra dollars before 2009 .
 

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LOL @ Rampage 1:12

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So there are 10 fights on this card , no bet for me on Nogueira vs Mir fight as posted above . Here is my first bet , spent around 2 hours to find as much info as possible and there is only one winner I see in this fight .

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"The Viking"
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</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=150><TABLE class=data_table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Name:</TD><TD>Pat Barry </TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Height:</TD><TD>5' 11" (180 cm)</TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Weight:</TD><TD>235 (107 kg)</TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Record: </TD><TD>3-0-0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=185>

"HD"
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Dan Evensen Vs Pat Barry

My pick is Pat Barry to win

Odds : - 205 & - 225

Where : bookmaker & 5dimes

5.125 units to win 2.5 units & 5.625 units to win 2.5 units = 10.75 units to win 5 units



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http://www.suckerpunchent.com/fighter-news/suckerpunch-signs-patrick-get-hype-barry/

Patrick Barry – A “Pure Striker” Makes His Octagon Debut

I’m not a fighter, but if I happened to be one who was going to be fighting Patrick Barry, I have to say I’d be a little bit curious as to the meaning of the following line <TABLE align=right><TBODY><TR><TD>




</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>from his UFC bio, which gave his thoughts on his UFC 92 opponent, Dan Evensen:

“He's a big guy with lots of experience who claims to be a striker,” said Barry of his opponent. “But everyone's a striker until they get hit by a real striker.”

Right about now I’m glad I’m not a fighter. More specifically, I’m glad I’m not Dan Evensen. And while I have a good idea of what former K-1 kickboxer Barry means by the above statement, I’d like to hear the explanation from the source.

“It’s a fact,” said Barry. “Everybody’s a striker till they get hit by a real striker. I’m a pure striker. I’ve seen a lot of people who say they’re strikers and they get punched in the head or kicked in the leg and it changes their whole perspective on the fight game. I’ve kicked people in the ring and I can see that look on their face that says “oh s**t, what was that?’ Everybody trains hard and hits hard and all that, but I hit really, really hard.”

He’s not kidding. Though only 5-11 (short for heavyweight standards these days), Barry comes into the UFC Octagon with 18 kickboxing wins (18-6-1 record) and a 3-0 MMA record that includes three first round stoppages. He’s also studied his craft under two of the game’s best, Ernesto Hoost and his current trainer, Duke Roufus. This resume has gotten “HD” a nice little buzz leading into his bout this Saturday against the 6 foot 3 Evensen, and he’s heard the talk.

“As soon as I heard about this fight, I was as happy as I possibly could be because the UFC is the Super Bowl of all fight sports,” said Barry. “That’s like the top of the mountain. And I figured, okay, there’s gonna be a lot of people having doubts and that a lot of people are going to think that I’m getting in over my head. But as time has gone by, just hearing comments here and there and reading things that people have been writing, it’s turning out to be a lot bigger than I expected it to be.”

That’s because Barry brings the aura of menace that comes along with being a knockout artist. As nice as he can be when outside the ropes, when the bell rings, he’s a different guy. And when your heroes (besides Mom of course) are Mike Tyson and the Street Fighter videogame character Sagat, there are certain expectations for him to bring the fireworks, something he’s fine with.

“There’s that pressure for every fight that I’m in,” said the 29-year old. “I know that the crowd is what makes us exist. If it weren’t for the fans, we wouldn’t be who we are or where we are. So I know there are a lot of expectations, and just from being an MMA fan myself, of course I would always choose to see someone get their head kicked off than to see somebody get choked unconscious. That’s just me. It’s visually more pleasing for me to see and more exciting. So I’m assuming that the majority of fight fans feel the same way. Nobody’s expecting me to come in and go the distance. I haven’t heard anybody say ‘hey man, I can’t wait for you to go all three rounds with Dan Evensen.’ (Laughs) The questions I’ve been getting are ‘how long is it gonna take before you knock him out?’ One of us is gonna go down, and I’m knocking on wood that it’s not gonna be me.”

With all this talk of striking, kickboxing, and knockouts, it could be easy to forget that Saturday’s bout is a mixed martial arts fight. So what happens if Evensen - a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under John Lewis – decides that a standup battle with a world-class kickboxer isn’t high on his priority list and takes the fight to the mat? Will it then be easy pickings for ‘The Viking’, or does Barry have some tricks up his sleeve?

“I’m a pretty sensible guy and I’ve always had a good head on my shoulders, and even saying that, I was unable to escape the ‘you know what, I’m just gonna punch and kick everybody and nothing’s ever gonna happen to me’ mentality,” admits Barry. “But when I first got into MMA, my first few practices, Red Schafer, my jiu-jitsu coach, and Ben Rothwell, my other teammate, they both let me know really quickly that you just can’t go in the ring and punch and kick everybody. As soon as they get their hands on you, it’s over, there’s nothing you can do about it – they’re awesome. So I had a very rude awakening. You can’t punch and kick everybody, they’ll just tackle you. And even if you do get back to your feet, you can’t punch and kick the way you used to. So I had to evolve my striking game. You can’t kickbox in an MMA fight. You have to strike like an MMA fighter. And for the last six months, since I started, we’ve been focusing more on jiu-jitsu and wrestling than I have been on striking.”

Barry made his pro MMA debut in May with a first round stoppage of Mike Delaney. By August, he was 3-0 and close to getting the UFC call. And what makes him believe he can finish off the transition from kickboxing to MMA and make some noise in the UFC’s heavyweight division is the same type of resolve that allowed him to get through the events of August of 2005, when Hurricane Katrina ripped through his native New Orleans, tragically taking his home and his grandmother’s life in the process.

“The comparison I can make to the fight sport is that we have to be quick on our feet and evolve to any given situation in a blink of an eye,” said Barry when asked about his own recovery from Katrina. “Katrina came and was way more devastating than we actually believed. We heard it was gonna be bad, but no one really believed it was going to be that bad. When it came through, we had an option, which all people do – we could sit in a chair, grieve, rot away and disappear, or we can accept the fact that it happened and that there’s nothing we could do about it, and move forward. It was a devastating situation to be in, and emotionally it was painful, but we evolved and kept moving forward.”

Now living in Milwaukee, Barry is back on his feet, and his family is back home in Louisiana, where he expects to someday to return.

“Nobody ever truly leaves New Orleans for good,” said Barry. “You may move away and live somewhere else for a while, but if you’re from New Orleans, you always go back, no matter what happens.”

Right now, going back isn’t an option, at least as far as Patrick Barry’s MMA career is concerned. He’s only thinking about moving forward. That doesn’t mean he’s coming in here with brash proclamations and bold predictions, but he does promise to leave his mark, beginning with Saturday’s bout.

“I’m not coming into the UFC saying I’m about to take over the division,” he said. “A fight is a fight, no matter what it is, and there’s no such thing as an easy fight. All fights are hard, and the heavyweight division in the UFC is a monster. (Heavyweight champion) Brock Lesnar’s gotta be the scariest man in the world, but that’s part of it. I don’t think any true athlete would ever want an easy victory, and I want to know that I’m putting forth all this effort and working towards something I’m going to have to actually achieve, and not just an easy win. But it’s gonna be exciting. I’ve never been a dull fighter. I’m a very explosive and athletic guy, and I’m a very aggressive fighter in the ring. Don’t expect the fight to go the distance. It’s gonna be one helluva show - it’s gonna be like a video game.”


The quote on Barry's MySpace page says "IF YOU AINT HYPE YOU AINT SHIT."
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UFC 87 Cheick Kongo vs. Dan Evensen

http://www.myvideofight.com/video/ufc/ufc-87-cheick-kongo-vs.-dan-evensen/index-3.html
 

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Am I silly to put my money on a fighter that has very little to none ground game ? Not really when you look at this match up . Dan Evensen is not your wrestling guy that will slaughter a stand up fighter with GnP in a MMA fight , he was in Norway hammer throw team but decided to start training MMA to support his family . He will be the bigger guy this time unlike his fight against Kongo but I don't see this saving him from a nasty T/KO due to an ever bigger advantage of Pat Barry in stand up being a K-1 , kickboxing fighter coming into this MMA bout . Barry is a bulky dude with nasty leg kicks and solid hands , rewatched Kongo vs Evensen fight and I see Evensen has no leg kicks defense at all , not that he impressed with anything else either . Kongo had an easy task whole fight with this guy and he himself has no ground game , most likely just a bit better than Patrick Barry due to more MMA experience . After all I mean come on : Dan Evensen got dropped by Kongo with a short right hand jab like he was kicked by Mirko's LHK .

Dan Evensen has no wrestling or judo to get Barry down , I am sure coming fresh into this fight Pat Barry will have enough energy to defend a takedown in case Evensen trys one . Overall I can see a nasty KO for Barry , maybe even with a LHK to the dome of Dan Evensen who should have nothing to offer on the feet either against a solid guy like Pat Barry who trains with ELITE , LEGENDS of K-1 and kickboxing Rick Rufus and Ernesto Hoost .
 

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I think UFC is doing a smart thing as almost always the case ... feeding a guy like Evensen on his way out of the UFC to an exciting stand up fighter like Barry . Most people love fights with heavy hitters going at each other instead of a ground control battle and adding Pat Barry I think they made just the right choice for an overall mediocre HW division in UFC . Maybe if both Pat Barry and Antoni Hardonk win their fights in this event UFC can set em up against each other to bang it out in one of their next shows .
 

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forrest and silva. bank on it.

Not sure at all ... still undecided but might just skip those two fights but I somehow don't think both of those guys will win , people counting Rampage out too early , same with Evans .
 

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I dont know why that post came up twice. i only posted it once. Wanderlei has beat him twice already and i know its been a few years but quinton seems to have other stuff been going on outside the octagon. I wont make my final decisions till after i see the weighs in tomorrow. I know both fights could go either way but forrest and silva were my initial gut feelings.
 

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</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=150><TABLE class=data_table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Name:</TD><TD>Mike Wessel </TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Height:</TD><TD>6' 0" (183 cm)</TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Weight:</TD><TD>260 (118 kg)</TD></TR><TR class=data_row><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Record: </TD><TD>8-1-0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=185>

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Antoni Hardonk Vs Mike Wessel

My pick is Antoni Hardonk to win

Odds : 1.31

Where : bodog

10 units to win 3.1 units


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I like this from sherdog :

The bottom line: Expect Wessel to come out guns blazing and Hardonk to brush that initial onslaught aside, as his clinical muay Thai takes over and summarily picks apart an overmatched opponent. One can only hope Wessel’s cornermen will have the ice packs ready, as their fighter will have the welts to prove he was in the Octagon with Hardonk.

Hardonk might not be a wizard on the ground but from what I've seen neither is his opponent Mike Wessel who is 6-0 fighting booms that my grandmother could defeat . All jokes aside Wessel is nothing but a HL material for a heavy KO . Hardonk has few levels better striking coming from a kickboxing background against a brawler like Wessel who will go for broke and get brutally surprised by either well known low kicks power of Hardonk or his good quality muy thai clinch .
Here I think Hardonk actually has an opponent who is worse than him on the ground , people can flame Antoni as much as they want but guy has shown something on the ground unlike people like C.Kongo .

Low odds ? YES . Lot of risk ? NO

Hardonk took some heavy punches of Eddie Sanchez , got rocked but recovered without much trouble , Wessel has a very little punchers chance here but Hardonk's proved kicks and striking should be too much for his opponent who comes into this fight as a late replacement for Mark Burch .
 

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HARDONK READY FOR BATTLE AT UFC 92

Posted by basblue on December 26, 2008 at 11:17am

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Source: THE CANADIAN PRESS - 2/22/2008 3:11:01 PM

At six foot four and 245 pounds, heavyweight Antoni Hardonk cuts a commanding figure in the cage.

"I was born a big baby," he said with a chuckle.

The Dutch mixed martial arts fighter showed the size of his heart - and perhaps a piece of his anatomy slightly lower - at UFC 85 in June in London when he rallied to knock out Eddie (The Manic Hispanic) Sanchez at 4:15 of the second round.

Sanchez put Hardonk on his butt seconds into the fight with a right to the chin and the Dutch big man ended the first round battered and leaking blood from a cut near his eye after losing the standup battle.

There was more of the same to start the second, with a left putting Hardonk down. But he weathered the storm, got up and chopped away at Sanchez with a string of punishing leg kicks. Hardonk eventually found his range and whaled away at his exhausted opponent at the fence, catching him with more than 20 blows before ending it with a roundhouse left hook that toppled Sanchez.

His previous fight, at UFC 80 in Newcastle in January, was a far easier night. Hardonk cut down Colin Robinson with two vicious leg kicks and the fight was called just 17 seconds into the bout after Robinson's knee buckled as he tried to get up.

The 32-year-old Dutchman looks to make it three wins in a row Saturday night at UFC 92 in Las Vegas, where he meets UFC newcomer Mike (The Juggernaut) Wessel on the undercard of the light-heavyweight title fight between champion Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans (available on pay-per-view).

Hardonk (7-4 including 3-2 in the UFC) arrived Friday night in Las Vegas after some visa delays and learning that his original opponent Mark Burch had been replaced by Wessel.

"Apparently he played football," Hardonk said. "He's a very physical guy but he just started training mixed martial arts a couple of years ago and because of his physicality, he's very successful. . . . He has a good record and now he's fighting in the UFC."

Wessel, 31, is a six-foot 260-pounder who played defensive tackle for the San Diego Riptide of the Arena Football League. He has also served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Wessel trains in Little Rock along with Roli Delgado, who was on Season 8 of "The Ultimate Fighter."

Hardonk doesn't seemed fazed by having to suddenly focus on Wessel, whose record is listed as 6-0 by Sherdog.com and 8-1 by the UFC.

"For me, I mostly focus on myself when I train, so I try to keep my strong points sharp and I work on my weaker points to get them better," said Hardonk, who boasts a degree in business management. "My style, the way I train, I'm really a well-rounded fighter so it makes it a little bit easier for me to anticipate different styles of fighters. . . . Of course there's strategy involved but when you're an all-round fighter, it's easier to adapt to the different styles of your opponent."

While 2008 has produced two wins and no losses, it was the opposite in 2007 when he was beaten by Frank Mir (a 77-second submission at UFC 74) and Justin McCully via unanimous decision at UFC Fight Night 9).

The McCully loss taught him the need for strategy and how to use the cage, which Hardonk quickly learned is different than a ring.

The Mir defeat reminded him to be patient. Rush in and you can get caught.

A former swimmer and water polo player, Hardonk always enjoyed "play-fighting" with his brothers and friends. He got interested in the different techniques of fighting, started training and soon found it had become an important part of his life.

Living in the Amsterdam area, where kickboxing is huge, he turned to that sport via K-1 where he enjoyed success but had difficulty getting fights. He soon fell in love with Brazilian jiu-jitsu and moved into mixed martial arts.

"My sport is my passion," he said. "I have many, many interests and I'm not lazy but with all the other activities I'm doing, sooner or later they start to feel like work. But training and sports is never going to make me tired. It doesn't take energy, it brings me energy."

While kickboxing remains his base, he says his ground game is improving.

"Of course I can improve much more," he said. "There's always something more to learn but I feel very confident."


From http://antonihardonk.ning.com/ , some of his fights there in case anybody is interested . Mike Wessel's ''FIGHTS'' can be found on youtube .
 

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Weird feeling about Nogueira vs Mir fight , hope this isn't rigged , Nog doesn't look in such a great shape .
 

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Weird feeling about Nogueira vs Mir fight , hope this isn't rigged , Nog doesn't look in such a great shape .
yea its weird, i dont wanna put money on nog. i know everyone is picking him to win but something is just saying stay away lol.
 

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yea its weird, i dont wanna put money on nog. i know everyone is picking him to win but something is just saying stay away lol.

I'm getting a weird feeling about the fight too. Maybe all that accumulated damage will catch up with Nog. Hopefully it doesn't happen anytime soon but it's going to happen eventually.
 

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Everybody and their mom bet on Nogueira here , I am not sure . He has taken lot of damage in his long career , even in the UFC he took so much punishment from Heath and Tim that I just don't know how he keeps coming back at you , it may end tho ... maybe today ?

Pretty sure a Frank Mir win here is what UFC is looking for . This guy looks good and most of the time knows what he is talking about , just what UFC needs for spreading this sport .
 

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I might just bet on Mir so that I have something to be happy about if Nog loses. I really want Nog to beat Mir badly. Don't like Mir at all.
 

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Still undecided on Forrest vs Rashad , Wanderlei vs Rampage and CB vs Massenzio , all other fights I am gonna skip . Hamill should beat Reese and same with Okami over Lister but odds aren't great , atleast in my two bets for this event I think I know how the fight will play out but here Hamill really showed nothing against Rich and Okami might get caught by Lister . Dana said Lister gotta show his 'shit' unless he wants out of the UFC's cashier window so I dont feel like betting against him . Many people think Al Turk is a good bet over Kongo and this is the only reason I dont put 1000 on Kongo . IMO Al Turk is very sloppy with his takedowns and Kongo will work him but of course Kongo might just loose it easily if they hit the ground , still I think he will have solid enough takedown defense and beat Al Turk standing .
 

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Rumors 50 cent put sum G-UNIT $$$ on Rashad to beat Forrest haha
 

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