My Heisman Ballot

[GreenDoberman]

From ten to one:

10. V. Morency, Okla. St.
9. DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
8. Kyle Orton, Purdue
7. Cedric Benson, Texas
6. Jason White, Okla.
5. Stefan LeFors, Louisville
4. Braylon Edwards, Mich.
3. Alex Smith, Utah
2. Adrian Peterson, Okla.
1. Matt Leinart, USC:monkey:

 

[ChuckSims]

I agree Doberman. Just curious, why did you rank Jason White #6? He has the same stats as last year.

 

[GreenDoberman]

He was overrated last year, and Peterson takes away some of his thunder. They will split votes, because it's hard to consider voting them 1-2.

He had his glory last year, and is more a product of his team's success than individually talented like Peterson is. He reminds me of Josh Heupel, if you can remember him.

 

[GreenDoberman]

I also strongly considered JaMario Thomas for what he has done for his team, stepping in after an injury and leading the country in rushing playing two less games than his competition. Strength of schedule is the only thing holding him back, but I think he'd be productive even if he was playing on a team without the North before it.

 

[ChuckSims]

Thanks GD for your response. I think what will hurt White even though it should be irrelevant is the way he laid an egg in last years BCS Championship game. Not too many people know this but 1/3 of last years heisman votes were cast before the Big 12 Championship game. A game in which White played poorly and was also hurt in the game. This leads me to believe White will not get his 2nd heisman.

 

[GreenDoberman]

Chuck,

FWIW Leinart is basically even money at WSEX right now, and I can imagine that will be even shorter odds after his numbers from the ND game are considered.

 

[SHAWN GOTTI]

green, if michigan went undefeated does braylon win it?

 

[GreenDoberman]

Gotti,

precedent is there with Desmond Howard (and Tim Brown). However, both were return specialists that emphasized their spectacular runbacks during their Heisman run.
I'd think Edwards (or anyone for that matter) would have a VERY hard time winning strictly as a pass catcher because of the inherent QB/RB bias.

 

[jjgold]

Matt Leinart is the winner

 

[ChuckSims]

Leinart is your Heisman Winner

Any books offering odds on who will place 2nd in the heisman voting?

 

[blackhawk1776]

leinart and white have identical stats...

A.Peterson will win.

 

[NickyDeuces]

1. Matt Leinart
2. Cedric Benson

 

[Journeyman]

Leinart , Peterson, Benson...

GINN MAY BE THE BEST PLAYER (Long Term) IN THE COUNTRY THOUGH .

 

[oldmanTED]

Hope everyone that thinks Matt Leinhart will win the Heisman Trophy is correct as I am currently holding a ticket from Oly at +500 that I made before the season began. Believe that Carroll kept Leinhart in late in the game against Notre Dame and used that late fake punt to give him a shot at throwing his 5th TD pass of the day the very next play also putting him over 400 yards on the day to impress the Heisman voters not the BCS voters. A lot of discussion down in Southern California about trying to assist Leinhart to win the trophy. Expect similiar approach this week against pass deficient UCLA. Not sure if the Trojans cover or not, but would surely bet that Leinhart puts up more good numbers. Meanwhile expect J. White and A. Peterson to be trying to do the same against Colorado. Think the main threat is White as just can't see the votes going to a freshman. Too far out of character for the old guard.

 

[Journeyman]

Very true in regard to giving the award to a freshman, dating all the way back to when Herschel Walker could have won the award, the old guard made Herschel wait....Good Luck Ted, it looks very good

IMO Herschel was the greatest college player of all time, easily could have won 3 in a row...

 

[Journeyman]

The past 10-12 years have not produced many great Pro players


PAST HEISMAN TROPHY WINNERS

YEAR WINNER SCHOOL POSITION
2003 Jason White Oklahoma QB
2002 Carson Palmer Southern Cal QB
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska QB
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State QB
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin RB
1998 Ricky Williams Texas RB
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan DB/WR
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida QB
1995 Eddie George Ohio State RB
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado RB
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State QB
1992 Gino Torretta Miami QB
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan WR
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young QB
1989 Andre Ware Houston QB
1988 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State RB
1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame WR
1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami QB
1985 Bo Jackson Auburn RB
1984 Doug Flutie Boston College QB
1983 Mike Rozier Nebraska RB
1982 Herschel Walker Georgia RB
1981 Marcus Allen Southern Cal. RB
1980 George Rogers South Carolina RB
1979 Charles White Southern Cal. RB
1978 Billy Sims Oklahoma RB
1977 Earl Campbell Texas RB
1976 Tony Dorsett Pittsburgh RB
1975 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1974 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1973 John Cappelletti Penn State RB
1972 Johnny Rodgers Nebraska WR
1971 Pat Sullivan Auburn QB
1970 Jim Plunkett Stanford QB
1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma HB
1968 O.J. Simpson Southern Cal. HB
1967 Gary Beban UCLA QB
1966 Steve Spurrier Florida QB
1965 Mike Garrett Southern Cal. HB
1964 John Huarte Notre Dame QB
1963 Roger Staubach Navy QB
1962 Terry Baker Oregon State QB
1961 Ernie Davis Syracuse HB
1960 Joe Bellino Navy HB
1959 Billy Cannon LSU HB
1958 Pete Dawkins Army HB
1957 John David Crow Texas A&M HB
1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame QB
1955 Howard Cassady Ohio State HB
1954 Alan Ameche Wisconsin FB
1953 Johnny Lattner Notre Dame HB
1952 Billy Vessels Oklahoma HB
1951 Dick Kazmaier Princeton HB
1950 Vic Janowicz Ohio State HB
1949 Leon Hart Notre Dame E
1948 Doak Walker Southern Methodist HB
1947 Johnny Lujack Notre Dame QB
1946 Glenn Davis Army HB
1945 Doc Blanchard Army FB
1944 Les Horvath Ohio State QB/HB
1943 Angelo Bertelli Notre Dame QB
1942 Frank Sinkwich Georgia HB
1941 Bruce Smith Minnesota HB
1940 Tom Harmon Michigan HB
1939 Nile Kinnick Iowa HB
1938 Davey O'Brien Texas Christian QB
1937 Clint Frank Yale HB
1936 Larry Kelley Yale E
1935 Jay Berwanger Chicago HB

 

[Railbird]

I was in the jacuzzi with Matty Sunday night, Ive known the kid since he was 10 years old.

1. Reggie Bush
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Stefan Leflour
4. Alex Smith
5. Peterson