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Anyone who thinks this isn't important for the well being of the sport is either chicken and doesn't want their team to take any risks for the sake of accomplishing something great, or they are a fan of mediocrity and will settle for it if there's an advantage in it for them.

There was a time when CFB existed solely to serve the interests of its fans and players as well as the interests of major sports organizations, TV networks, and the general media. 20 years ago, College Football was an exciting game with great matchups of every kind, great dramas played out every Saturday during football season. Many rivalries became traditions. Teams often played well respected opponents from far away places. That is how College Football became a great American institution where the word "National Champion" once meant Champion of the Nation.

Today college football's national champion is nothing more than a regional champion that wins one big game vs one other regional champion. Fewer regional teams than ever play on a national level and it seems pointless to call anyone a "national champion" anymore. Today, there are about 10 regional champions that play their own regional teams almost exclusively, nowhere even close to playing on a national level as they had done in the past.

It is the isolationism that is degrading and fragmenting the sport. Smashing it into regional pieces of what it had once become, a great national past time where teams settled things on the field instead of pollsters telling us who "would have won" or "which team is better than another." That is just wrong.

Where have all the big-time intersectional games gone?

<cite class="source"> By Pat Forde
ESPN.com

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<!-- end mod-article-title --> <!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->For two seasons now, Alabama has been the savior of Labor Day weekend college football. While the vast majority of FBS schools seek out season-opening chumps, the Crimson Tide have dared to play somebody.
Last year Bama played a neutral-field game in Atlanta against Clemson to start the season. This year it will face Virginia Tech, also in Atlanta.
Taking on ranked nonconference teams right away? That qualifies as a profile in courage these days. But compare it to 30 years ago, and Alabama looks positively soft by its own standards.
In 1978, the Tide opened the season by playing Nebraska in Birmingham, then facing Missouri on the road, then hosting USC. In October they worked in a road game at Washington.
Behind schedule

While the number of major-conference teams has increased from 54 in 1978 to 65 in 2008, the number of nonconference matchups between Top 20 teams has dramatically decreased.
<table> <thead> <tr> <th> </th> <th>1978</th> <th>1988</th> <th>1998</th> <th>2008</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="last"> <td>Major teams</td> <td>54</td> <td>55</td> <td>62</td> <td>65</td> </tr> <tr class="last"> <td>Top 20 games</td> <td>11</td> <td>15</td> <td>8</td> <td>4</td> </tr> <tr class="last"> <td>Ranked games</td> <td>11</td> <td>15</td> <td>13</td> <td>8</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Source: ESPN Stats & Information

Beyond Clemson and Virginia Tech, Alabama's other six nonconference games of 2008 and '09 are: Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State, Florida International, North Texas and Chattanooga. You don't even need to ask whether any of those are road games.
And that pretty well illustrates where scheduling has gone in college football. Into hiding, namely. Everyone at the high end of the sport has taken their ball and their competitiveness and gone home -- to play Directional Tech and count their cash.
Big-time intersectional games have gone the way of the wishbone.
I asked ESPN's estimable Stats & Information group to run some numbers for this story. I wanted to compare the number of nonconference games between ranked teams from 1978, '88, '98 and 2008 -- to confirm or refute the theory that there's been a drop-off in ambitious scheduling.
The results: There were 11 games matching Top 20* teams in 1978, 15 in '88, eight in '98 and just four in '08. In other words: over the past two decades, the number of Top 20 non-conference matchups has decreased by half every 10 years. And the Top 10 matchups have virtually disappeared, going from five in '78 to seven in '88 to two in '98 and one in '08.
(* We used the Top 20 instead of Top 25 for consistency. That was the size of the poll back in 1978 and '88.)


<cite>Marvin Gentry/US Presswire</cite>
After Virginia Tech, Alabama's 2009 non-conference
schedule doesn't look very tough.

If you go by Phil Steele's 2009 Preview Top 20, we could be looking at five such intersectional matchups this season: Alabama-Virginia Tech, BYU at Oklahoma, Georgia at Oklahoma State, USC at Ohio State and USC at Notre Dame. Not much meat on the nonconference bone. Even with teams like Penn State, Florida State and Miami joining conferences in the 1990s, that doesn't fully explain this decrease in marquee intersectional games.
Fact is, almost everyone is trying to find the easy way to success -- which, depending on the level of your program, could be bowl eligibility, a BCS bowl or a national championship.
"All schools manage their own schedules by balancing the needs of the fans, season-ticket holders and sponsors with the needs of being competitive within their conference," said Dave Brown, vice president for programming at ESPN and the network's scheduling czar. "Some people don't mind playing more tough ones, and some people, given the demands of their conference, will not."
The number of will-nots has grown over the years. And could continue to grow in the near future, some believe.
"[Scheduling] is the most challenging it's ever been," said Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione, one guy who still believes in selective blockbuster scheduling. "I'm concerned, because I just don't see the strength-of-schedule philosophy being shared by as many people as we would hope if we're really concerned with the health of college football."
Here's how we got to this position of potential infirmity for what has been a robustly healthy sport:
The BCS
Shocking that America's least favorite sports computer system would be a factor, isn't it? Even with strength of schedule as part of the BCS formula for selecting two teams to play for a national championship, the system can encourage user-friendly scheduling.
LSU, Florida and Oklahoma all have ridden strength-of-schedule advantages into the BCS National Championship Game the past two years despite losses. The Tigers played seven ranked opponents in 2007, while the Gators played five and the Sooners six in '08. LSU got a boost from playing Virginia Tech out of conference, and Oklahoma squeaked past Texas in part by playing TCU and Cincinnati.


But it's just as true that Texas Tech made a strong push for the title game last year while playing a nonconference schedule of Eastern Washington, Nevada, SMU and Massachusetts. If the Red Raiders had gone 13-0, they would have played for the national championship despite that travesty of a nonleague schedule.
In 2007, Kansas rose to No. 2 in the polls after opening the season with Central Michigan, Southeastern Louisiana, Toledo and Florida International.
"Everyone should schedule in a way that helps their own school," Castiglione said. "Having said that, there are some things on the horizon that make some of us wonder if it's a disincentive to scheduling harder nonconference games."
Such as?
"The premium on going undefeated."
Conference expansion
More teams in the major conferences generally produces more league games. As recently as 1987, the Southeastern Conference played only six conference games -- now eight. The ACC played a six-game schedule until 1984. The Big Eight played a seven-game schedule but went to eight games when it became the Big 12.
And the addition of a league championship game is seen by some as one more reason to schedule a cupcake, since the strength-of-schedule hit can be overcome on the back end if the school is good enough to play for a league title.
Conference realignment also switched traditional nonconference games like Oklahoma-Texas and Florida State-Miami to conference games.
More bowl games, more bowl revenue and more pressure to play in bowl games
What's the easiest way for a traditionally weak program to get to six wins and bowl eligibility? The Bill Snyder way, popularized during his first tenure at Kansas State: find as many beatable opponents as possible.
In 2007, Indiana went to its first bowl game in 14 years, in no small part thanks to a nonconference schedule of Indiana State, Western Michigan, Akron and Ball State. Kentucky has been to three bowls and won 23 games the past three season -- with nine of those victories coming against opponents from the Sun Belt (Louisiana-Monroe, Florida Atlantic, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky) the Mid-American Conference (Central Michigan, Kent State) and FCS (Texas State, Eastern Kentucky, Norfolk State). Rutgers has used a similar formula in its four-year bowl run, with victories over Villanova, Howard, Norfolk State, Morgan State, Army (twice), Navy (thrice) and three opponents from the MAC.
Problem is, the cost of bringing in those opponents for "guarantee" games is skyrocketing. Georgia athletic director Damon Evans said he recently shelled out $975,000 to a school for a guarantee game. Castiglione said he heard of programs paying as much as $1.2 million.
And now smaller programs are turning the guarantee game even more to their advantage. If they signed a contract five years ago to play a powerhouse for, say, $500,000, what's the financial disincentive to pay a penalty and opt out of that deal and sign a new one with another power for twice as much?
"They know [the power programs] need them," Evans said. "They know they're a hot commodity."
Money
As football has become an ever-bigger meal ticket for athletic departments, the premium on home games has increased. If you're trying to fund volleyball, softball and a new weight room, what better way than to schedule a seventh or eighth home game and rake in that many more millions?
That means one more chance per year to grab that Sun Belt or FCS opponent. And that's why the 12th game was voted into existence -- not to beef up schedules, but to beef up revenue.


<cite>Hunter Martin/Getty Images</cite>
JoePa and Penn State face Akron, Syracuse,
Temple and Eastern Illinois in 2009 nonconference games.


Of the 65 teams in the big six leagues, 39 will play at least seven home games this season. Seven of them -- Tennessee, Auburn, Penn State, Michigan, Oklahoma State, NC State and Syracuse -- will play eight. There aren't many Georgias out there -- schools that are using that 12th game to schedule more aggressively. Last year the previously isolationist Bulldogs played at Arizona State -- their longest regular-season trip west since 1960. This year they open with a trip to Stillwater to play Oklahoma State, and future schedules include home-and-home arrangements with Colorado, Louisville and Oregon.
"I felt we needed to gain more national exposure and recognition," Evans said. "We want to get out there and let people see the Dawgs. [Annual opponent] Georgia Tech is an A-list opponent, but that doesn't get us outside the region."
Admirable of an SEC school to resist the temptation to simply line up a cadaver and fill the seats, as most can any given Saturday. Because nowhere is it more rewarding to schedule cupcakes than the SEC, where demand for tickets is always high. They'll put 80,000 to 110,000 in the stands to see the home team play just about anyone -- including, at Alabama, itself.
It's not quite so easy at some other locales. According to one source knowledgeable in the ways of scheduling, that's why Pac-10 teams are willing to (a) play nine league games and (b) schedule high-caliber nonconference opponents -- because the fan base is a bit more fickle.
"USC will sell tickets," the source said. "A lot of other schools will not unless the game is good."
College football might be the most recession-proof sport in America, but that still doesn't mean it isn't susceptible. Especially if the major programs are continually asking fans to shell out big bucks for the Louisiana-Lafayettes of the world.
"If the steady diet is mismatches, just puffing up the winning side of the column, I'm not so sure how long people are going to acquiesce to that," Castiglione said. "Or how long they'll have the financial inventory."
Even if schools start experiencing fan backlash at the turnstiles, don't expect a return to the days of fearless intersectional scheduling. Alabama won't play a 1978 schedule again, and neither will anyone else.
 

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An excellent article. USC has played the toughest schedules year in and year out, playing Notre Dame every year, and such schools as Suburn, Ohio State, and others. But even USC is softening up it's non-con schedule by scheduling the likes of Hawaii, Minnesota, and Syracuse in the next few years, as well as the Irish. It is a sad testament to the all mighty dollar and the fact that NO school is actually considered a true National Champion.
 

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Exhibit 1a; Texas


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</td> </tr> <tr id="1062755" title="2009,8,05,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">09/05/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Louisiana-Monroe</td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062756" title="2009,8,12,15,30,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">09/12/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Wyoming
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</td> <td class="row-text">Laramie, Wy.</td> <td class="row-text">2:30 pm CT</td> </tr> <tr id="1062759" title="2009,8,19,20,00,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">09/19/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Texas Tech
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</td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">7:00 pm CT</td> </tr> <tr id="1062757" title="2009,8,26,15,30,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">09/26/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. UTEP
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</td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">2:30 pm CT</td> </tr> <tr id="1062762" title="2009,9,10,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">10/10/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Colorado </td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062750" title="2009,9,17,12,00,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">10/17/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Oklahoma
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</td> <td class="row-text">Dallas, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">11:00 am CT</td> </tr> <tr id="1062751" title="2009,9,24,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">10/24/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Missouri </td> <td class="row-text">Columbia, Mo.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062763" title="2009,9,31,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">10/31/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Oklahoma State </td> <td class="row-text">Stillwater, Okla.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062764" title="2009,10,07,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">11/07/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Central Florida</td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062765" title="2009,10,14,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">11/14/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Baylor </td> <td class="row-text">Waco, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062752" title="2009,10,21,23,59,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">11/21/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Kansas </td> <td class="row-text">Austin, Texas</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="1062753" title="2009,10,26,20,00,00" class="" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">11/26/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Texas A&M
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Exhibit 1a; Texas


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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE id=schedtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=event-table-headings bgColor=#666666><TD class=head-text>Date</TD><TD class=head-text>Opponent / Event</TD><TD class=head-text>Location</TD><TD class=head-text>Time / Result</TD></TR> <TR bgColor=#000000> <TD colSpan=4>
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</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062755 title=2009,8,05,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#f1f1f1><TD class=row-text>09/05/09</TD><TD class=row-text>vs. Louisiana-Monroe</TD><TD class=row-text>Austin, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062756 title=2009,8,12,15,30,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#d1d1d1><TD class=row-text>09/12/09</TD><TD class=row-text>at Wyoming
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</TD><TD class=row-text>Austin, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>2:30 pm CT</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062762 title=2009,9,10,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#f1f1f1><TD class=row-text>10/10/09</TD><TD class=row-text>vs. Colorado </TD><TD class=row-text>Austin, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062750 title=2009,9,17,12,00,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#d1d1d1><TD class=row-text>10/17/09</TD><TD class=row-text>vs. Oklahoma
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</TD><TD class=row-text>Dallas, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>11:00 am CT</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062751 title=2009,9,24,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#f1f1f1><TD class=row-text>10/24/09</TD><TD class=row-text>at Missouri </TD><TD class=row-text>Columbia, Mo.</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062763 title=2009,9,31,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#d1d1d1><TD class=row-text>10/31/09</TD><TD class=row-text>at Oklahoma State </TD><TD class=row-text>Stillwater, Okla.</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062764 title=2009,10,07,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#f1f1f1><TD class=row-text>11/07/09</TD><TD class=row-text>vs. Central Florida</TD><TD class=row-text>Austin, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062765 title=2009,10,14,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#d1d1d1><TD class=row-text>11/14/09</TD><TD class=row-text>at Baylor </TD><TD class=row-text>Waco, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062752 title=2009,10,21,23,59,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#f1f1f1><TD class=row-text>11/21/09</TD><TD class=row-text>vs. Kansas </TD><TD class=row-text>Austin, Texas</TD><TD class=row-text>TBA</TD></TR> <TR class="" id=1062753 title=2009,10,26,20,00,00 vAlign=top bgColor=#d1d1d1><TD class=row-text>11/26/09</TD><TD class=row-text>at Texas A&M
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I expect this team to be in the title game, but If the Horns get left out of the BCS title game this season, they have only themselves and their schedule to blame.
 

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when Texas made that schedule...Wyoming and UTEP werent exactly shi**y football schools. and UCF was added of late that isnt a terrible team either. ULM is their throwaway pounce on a team by 50 game.

at least they arent facing a Div1AA team like many schools and are playing a road game with Wyoming.

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i think Exhibit 1a should be Florida

all non-conf games at home. playing a div 1AA team (Charleston Southern). Troy is decent but will still lose by 28. FIU is their throwaway blowout game before FSU. That would appear weaker than the Horns schedule.


i think the issues with

a) having to schedule these OOC gams 5+ years in advance
b) no playoff = you must win ALL GAMES to get to MNC game
c) tough conference schedules

is why we see sorrier OOC schedules from many teams.

why doesnt CFB have a Big 10/SEC (or Pac10/Big12) matchup like CBB?

or God forbid, CFB should get a freakin playoff system so that 1 loss doesnt completely kill you.

the NCAA is doing it to themselves with the sorry OOC scheduling with the dumb BCS system they have
 

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when Texas made that schedule...Wyoming and UTEP werent exactly shi**y football schools. and UCF was added of late that isnt a terrible team either. ULM is their throwaway pounce on a team by 50 game.

at least they arent facing a Div1AA team like many schools and are playing a road game with Wyoming.

---

i think Exhibit 1a should be Florida

all non-conf games at home. playing a div 1AA team (Charleston Southern). Troy is decent but will still lose by 28. FIU is their throwaway blowout game before FSU. That would appear weaker than the Horns schedule.


i think the issues with

a) having to schedule these OOC gams 5+ years in advance
b) no playoff = you must win ALL GAMES to get to MNC game
c) tough conference schedules

why doesnt CFB have a Big 10/SEC (or Pac10/Big12) matchup like CBB?

or God forbid, CFB should get a freakin playoff system so that 1 loss doesnt completely kill you.

the NCAA is doing it to themselves with the sorry OOC scheduling with the dumb BCS system they have
I'm sorry, but "Wyoming and UTEP were good teams when Texas scheduled them" is a terrible excuse. Last time I looked they were both still non-bcs schools that have never even got a far off sniff of a BCS game. The fact that they didn't schedule one BCS conference team this season tells me where their AD's head is at. He's dodging the big boys in favor of an easy ride to a BCS game. It's all about making more money for his school. He needs to grow a bigger set of balls.
 

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He's dodging the big boys in favor of an easy ride to a BCS game. It's all about making more money for his school. He needs to grow a bigger set of balls.

dont they already play "the big boys" every year?

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i concur that this is a weak schedule this year. But we have seen Texas schedule the likes of TCU, Arkansas and OhioSt of late so this isnt a persistent evasion of top football programs....like some schools

that's why i'd like to see a matchup of the BCS conferences...or an NCAA mandate that all BCS schools must schedule one other BCS school OOC so that we can see some better matchups....
 

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I think that Texas knew that this was a pussy schedule. From what I recall they did try to add wisconsin. Unfortunately neither team wanted to remove a home game with one of the weak sisters on their slate in upcoming years to make it happen.

This will most definitely cost Texas if it comes down to it.
 

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dont they already play "the big boys" every year?

that's why i'd like to see a matchup of the BCS conferences...or an NCAA mandate that all BCS schools must schedule one other BCS school OOC so that we can see some better matchups....
I'll give Texas the kudos for scheduling a home and home with Ohio State. Those were also much anticipated games. And the first one at OSU was a near classic. Why Texas got away from these kinds of games for this one season is what I can't figure out. I'm not sure what the AD/Mack Brown were thinking, when they know how the BCS operates. But I agree, I think every BCS conference team should be required to have one BCS game on their schedule.
 

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I think that Texas knew that this was a pussy schedule. From what I recall they did try to add wisconsin. Unfortunately neither team wanted to remove a home game with one of the weak sisters on their slate in upcoming years to make it happen.

This will most definitely cost Texas if it comes down to it.

with Wisky, maybe Texas was trying to avoid having to play 2 OOC BCS teams in one year. Weenie, but I guess understandable since few BCS schools ever schedule 2 OOC BCSgames. The next 4 years they have UCLA and Ole Miss on tap....

to me this just seems like an oddball year for Texas...and their weak OOC schedule should be a factor if it comes to it.
 

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How can yo knock Florida in the defense of Texas? Granted their OOC schedule sucks but at they least play FSU. The reason everyone is down on Texas is for the simple fact that they didn't schedule at least one top 50 type team.

Just please don't wine if you find yourself in a position like last year. Making the title game comes down to strength of OOC games not just making sure you don't face competitive OOC teams.

Same for Penn St. but at least they scheduled a BCS school in Syracuse.
 

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when Texas made that schedule...Wyoming and UTEP werent exactly shi**y football schools. and UCF was added of late that isnt a terrible team either. ULM is their throwaway pounce on a team by 50 game.

at least they arent facing a Div1AA team like many schools and are playing a road game with Wyoming.
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i think Exhibit 1a should be Florida
all non-conf games at home. playing a div 1AA team (Charleston Southern). Troy is decent but will still lose by 28. FIU is their throwaway blowout game before FSU. That would appear weaker than the Horns schedule.

i think the issues with

a) having to schedule these OOC gams 5+ years in advance
b) no playoff = you must win ALL GAMES to get to MNC game
c) tough conference schedules

is why we see sorrier OOC schedules from many teams.

why doesnt CFB have a Big 10/SEC (or Pac10/Big12) matchup like CBB?

or God forbid, CFB should get a freakin playoff system so that 1 loss doesnt completely kill you.

the NCAA is doing it to themselves with the sorry OOC scheduling with the dumb BCS system they have

No excuses my man. Sorry, but cupcakes have never been passed around on the basis of whoever's got the most harassment in conference play. You win your league or you go noplace. That's pretty old stuff and it's been that way since forever when they played them just as tough in conference back when. But this cupcake-pansy thing is all pretty new over the last 10-20 years in the kind of numbers we are vexing over in this thread. It's really about the quality of football that's been compromised big time.

I hear that tough conference schedule excuse so much, I'm beginning to think the SEC schedule got too tough for anyone to manage right around 10 years ago when the cupcake number virtually doubled within 10 years. That was long before competitive football was ever invented. Probably face masks too.

I mean they make it sound like they all play about 4 tough opponents in conference games at least (most) on account of the conference is split up. But they do get a couple of those games at home anyway. Yeap, that's one hell of a gauntlet. How can ANYONE be expected to win the SEC 2 years in a row! C'mon... it will never happen! 3 times in a row? What is this? The competition-less Sun Belt for god sakes? Or how does Florida and the 11 dwarfs sound? (just trying to be original.)

Not to be all picky sdf, you are right that UTEP did manage a couple 8 win seasons back around '05, but Wyoming has been just a cut above the MWC bottom feeders for a decade. 35 wins in 9 years, blah. One year when Glenn managed 7 wins but they still beat all nobodies and lost to anyone who was anybody. Average about 4 wins a year. They suck. At least they found a pretty good head coach so they might come up for air a couple times this year.

Nothing personal about Texas at all man, but with a schedule like that, they should be disqualified for any NC consideration or BCS bowl berth. I don't mean to single them out either and you are right that UF is worse and they definitely deserve an ** by anything they do this season of note with a schedule like they've got. It's just WRONG to call yourself a national anything if you don't play on a national stage. I'd feel a lot better about the title game if they called it the National Cupcake eaters game (brought to you by Hostess Twinkies.)

If it is of any consolation to you, Wyoming has a new coach and is headed in a new direction. AND, let us not forget their defining win last year at Neyland where they beat the "Old Hickory" has beens from the '90's on their own turf no less! I think Tennessee should be going to Wyoming this year instead of Texas. Seems fair to me.

At any rate, please permit me the liberty to let you in on some good advice. This comes straight from the backroom of the SEC main offices. If you are going to try for this undefeated run thing with enough cupcakes to boil it all down to winning just a tough game or 2, do like the SEC does it, don't ever go to their house. Keep them all at home and keep the money in Texas.

WTF is Texas doing playing a road game in Wyoming anyway? Padre Island's got more people laying out in the sun on a mild Saturday afternoon than they whole state of Wyoming's got from one end to the other. Y'all going to ride up there on horseback or what? I can't imagine enough Texans making the trip up there unless you're looking for a little vacation time on the side. (The Grand Tetons are an excellent place to go visit.)

They do it right in the SEC so pay attention. With not much to do around town, football is about all there is to it! That will fill 'em up to the tune of at least 80,000+ at $20+ per head before we start counting $9 hot dogs and $5 sodas. You see my point? So if you are going to go after the cupcakes, at least stay home and get paid for it.

Now on second thought, the fella in that article was saying something about these cupcakes holding out for big football money because they know that a piece of a NC could be in it for their opponent if they agree to play them in their big football stadium. I'm thinking maybe Texas got stiffed because all the cupcakes were sold out. The SEC has had first dibs on them for years and years. So gettem while they're fresh next time! And don't forget to take them home with you.

Looks like you guys got clear sailing this year. BOL.



I tried to make light of this whole thing in this post but it just ain't workin out. This whole thing is just to rotten and unsportsmanlike to laugh off so easy for me.
 

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How can yo knock Florida in the defense of Texas? Granted their OOC schedule sucks but at they least play FSU. The reason everyone is down on Texas is for the simple fact that they didn't schedule at least one top 50 type team.

Just please don't wine if you find yourself in a position like last year. Making the title game comes down to strength of OOC games not just making sure you don't face competitive OOC teams.

Same for Penn St. but at least they scheduled a BCS school in Syracuse.

yep, you're right. I forgot about FSU. My mistake.
 

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You can blame the BCS for weaker OOC schedules. Most teams want to try and schedule the bare minimum and get by with wins.
 

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You can blame the BCS for weaker OOC schedules. Most teams want to try and schedule the bare minimum and get by with wins.
I think it's not only about scheduling the bare minimum and getting their wins, I think their concerns are getting early season injuries when playing BCS schools, which could possibly ruin their whole season. If Texas goes undefeated and wins the BCS title it's really going to spark more of this cupcake scheduling. This is when the NCAA will need to crack down and make some rules changes as far as scheduling goes, or we may never again see a good matchup on television in the first month of the season.
 

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sdf,

I'm not going to justify UF's OOC schedule this year. However they play FSU every year. In the 1990's UF only won that game 4 times, and one was in a bowl game (for the national championship).

You are propping up UCF on UT's schedule. The reason UF is playing Charleston Southern to open the season is that they could not find another D1 team after....(drum roll).....UCF backed out of the contract to come to Gainesville for the opener.....

In this era of the 12th game, you will see the 1AA games on 75% of D1 schedules. Deal with it...it's now a part of life in college football. Ask Michigan if scheduling a 1AA team is a guarantee....
 

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I think that Texas knew that this was a pussy schedule. From what I recall they did try to add wisconsin. Unfortunately neither team wanted to remove a home game with one of the weak sisters on their slate in upcoming years to make it happen.

This will most definitely cost Texas if it comes down to it.

Texas tried to add Wisconsin for 2009 for a game in Austin. The concern on the part of Wisconsin was that a return game in Madison wouldn't happen.
 

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I think it's not only about scheduling the bare minimum and getting their wins, I think their concerns are getting early season injuries when playing BCS schools, which could possibly ruin their whole season. If Texas goes undefeated and wins the BCS title it's really going to spark more of this cupcake scheduling. This is when the NCAA will need to crack down and make some rules changes as far as scheduling goes, or we may never again see a good matchup on television in the first month of the season.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

An honest response from a CFB fan who had his pocket picked for 1/3 of all the worthwhile games in an average season... and they did it real long and slow like being beaten to death with a teaspoon. And so GoSooners, you think it's going to get worse?

To be eligible for BCS consideration:

-a team may not play more than 1 FCS opponent per year
-play at least 1 road game vs an FBS opponent not less than 600 miles from home
- at least one game vs a BCS conference opponent.

That's next to nothing but fat chance that will fly
 

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dont they already play "the big boys" every year?

OU
TTech
Mizzou
Kansas
OKSt


i concur that this is a weak schedule this year. But we have seen Texas schedule the likes of TCU, Arkansas and OhioSt of late so this isnt a persistent evasion of top football programs....like some schools

that's why i'd like to see a matchup of the BCS conferences...or an NCAA mandate that all BCS schools must schedule one other BCS school OOC so that we can see some better matchups....
The only big boy I see there is OU. The other 4 always schedules weak OOC teams, and when you factor in an almost certain 4-0 or 3-1 record, plus the 4 or 5 conference doormats, they appear bigger then they really are, like looking at yourself in a funhouse mirror.
 

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sdf,

I'm not going to justify UF's OOC schedule this year. However they play FSU every year. In the 1990's UF only won that game 4 times, and one was in a bowl game (for the national championship).

You are propping up UCF on UT's schedule. The reason UF is playing Charleston Southern to open the season is that they could not find another D1 team after....(drum roll).....UCF backed out of the contract to come to Gainesville for the opener.....

In this era of the 12th game, you will see the 1AA games on 75% of D1 schedules. Deal with it...it's now a part of life in college football. Ask Michigan if scheduling a 1AA team is a guarantee....


yes and as i said above....i forgot about FSU. my mistake. my argument was invalid. but thanks!
 

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