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So, Dungy just admitted that he would have discriminated against the man, which is illegal. He should just STFU now.
 

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don't understand how this isn't similar to a coach saying they wouldn't want to have Terrell Owens on their squad. Don't want the circus, want to focus on winning. Just because he's not lining up to the be first guy to employ Sam on an NFL team doesn't mean he wouldn't be the 2nd or 3rd or 4th. Guy is paid to win games.

Hope Sam makes it. Thought his ESPY speech was pretty cool. I'm also sure that clarified for a lot of people his relationship with the guy he made out with during the draft, and how that was NOT a PR stunt premeditated by his camp
I really liked his speech, too. The guy has an amazing heart for other people. He will undoubtedly be a great teammate that is unselfish and puts the team ahead of himself. I really think that after the first couple media circus days at training camp, this whole thing will blow over and the questions will stop. There are no secrets, the guy is gay, so what. The Mizzou team accepted him, I think everyone else will too. I personally don't agree with homosexuality, but I'm not his judge and his personal life is none of my business. I would certainly accept him for who he is. I think it will be a non-issue very soon.
 

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I have to agree with Keith on this one...

 

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So, Dungy just admitted that he would have discriminated against the man, which is illegal. He should just STFU now.

That's not what he said at all. He said he wouldn't have drafted him because he wouldn't have wanted to deal with all the extra stuff that comes along with Michael Sam's story. He didn't say he wouldn't draft him because he was gay. Big difference. Simply put, Sam's situation is a distraction. Some can deal with it while others cannot.
 

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That's not what he said at all. He said he wouldn't have drafted him because he wouldn't have wanted to deal with all the extra stuff that comes along with Michael Sam's story. He didn't say he wouldn't draft him because he was gay. Big difference. Simply put, Sam's situation is a distraction. Some can deal with it while others cannot.
Not buying it one bit. I love Tony Dungy, but he should just shut up now. Is a gay guy more of a distraction than a former player turned murderer? Did the Patriots lose their season because of that circus? Dealing with media is part of the job. It's pointless, but it's part of the job. They are there regardless. It's not any more of a distraction for people to be there asking about a gay dude than it is for them to be there asking who the starting qb is gonna be.
 

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Most NFL owners wouldn't hire an African american coach until Al Davis brought on Art Shell in 89'.
Most didn't want to deal with the "distraction" from their fan base or they felt an "African American" couldn't do the job.

Tell me, whats the difference here?

Dungy sounds like a hypocrite.
 
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Most NFL owners wouldn't hire an African american coach until Al Davis brought on Art Shell in 89'.
Most didn't want to deal with the "distraction" from their fan base or they felt an "African American" couldn't do the job.

Tell me, whats the difference here?

Dungy sounds like a hypocrite.

bingo.
 

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Some things are left best unsaid.....
 

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Not buying it one bit. I love Tony Dungy, but he should just shut up now. Is a gay guy more of a distraction than a former player turned murderer? Did the Patriots lose their season because of that circus? Dealing with media is part of the job. It's pointless, but it's part of the job. They are there regardless. It's not any more of a distraction for people to be there asking about a gay dude than it is for them to be there asking who the starting qb is gonna be.

You're comparing a distraction in Sam before being drafted to Hernandez being a distraction while already on the team? The situations couldn't be more different.
 

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There is no distraction. It's just media attention, which is always there anyway.
 

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Enfuego, you seem like a good dude. But I have to say I don't think I've ever agreed with you on any issue, ever. I guess you are my polar opposite.
 

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That's not what he said at all. He said he wouldn't have drafted him because he wouldn't have wanted to deal with all the extra stuff that comes along with Michael Sam's story. He didn't say he wouldn't draft him because he was gay. Big difference. Simply put, Sam's situation is a distraction. Some can deal with it while others cannot.


I knew as soon as I watched some of last night's talking heads.... that lots of people would dig deep for the PC side of this argument, as so many of the TV guys did. What Enfuego says above is balls-on accurate.

As I said in the title of the thread..... I respect Dungy. He told the absolute truth. All he could have added and did not....... in addition to the media circus...... the kid's abject failure in the combine (main measuring tool for the draft within the league) was very obvious. So his low scores.... plus the uneccesary bullcrap that comes with his hiring....... absolutely NOT worth it.

I was disappointed in Olbermann. I really enjoy the guy's show..... Watch it all the time. Very shocked he did not back Tony on this one. Just too easy to take the other side.

Maybe the kid will perform better than his combine stats indicate. Rams must sure hope he does...... he will be totally worthless if he can't. I mean worthless except for the PR value.



You're comparing a distraction in Sam before being drafted to Hernandez being a distraction while already on the team? The situations couldn't be more different.



Again, balls-on accurate by Enfuego! If the guy is already on your roster like Hernandez (and playing at a very elite level at his position) then yea..... you got to deal with the fall-out when the guy proves to be a criminal.

But...... no compelling reason to take on the circus coming to town for a guy who has not played a snap in the league..... and appears in all his measurables to be incapable.

I still believe this was played up to draw attention to the kid so that he would be looked at favorably somehow.... or so he would be paving the way for some other money making deal if he failed as an NFL football player. (book, or movie, or whatever) He got some advice on this from somewhere. We will see if it works out.

One thing is for sure...... there are LOTS of players quietly wishing to hell they were not on the Rams roster.
 

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That's not what he said at all. He said he wouldn't have drafted him because he wouldn't have wanted to deal with all the extra stuff that comes along with Michael Sam's story. He didn't say he wouldn't draft him because he was gay. Big difference. Simply put, Sam's situation is a distraction. Some can deal with it while others cannot.

The real issue is when the coach has to cut Sam.

The never ending conversation about "was he cut because he is gay" is going to be a problem.
 
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Dungy is my hero, for having the fucking balls to speak his mind in today's PC correct bullshit culture.
 

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I think it takes less balls to say that nonsense than it does to man up and deal with a little media attention.
 

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The real issue is when the coach has to cut Sam.

The never ending conversation about "was he cut because he is gay" is going to be a problem.


Agree. People have not been willing to understand.... or already lost sight of the fact...... that he was FAVORED in the draft process BECAUSE of his announcement.

I don't think we should have known all this kid's personal business to begin with. He should have had to measure up the same as all the other players.

Seems that is often the problem. People ask to be treated "equally". What they clearly really want is special consideration.
 

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