Most overrated team by FAR

[Boxslayer]

Georgia Bulldogs.

I threw up in my mouth twice and am laughing my ass off at this media-fest for this team.

What makes everyone think this team is so unbeatable?

Is it the fact that they struggled on the road last year?

Was it their BIG huge win over overrated out-talented Hawaii in their bowl game? That game was a joke, Hawaii would have been overmatched to 15 teams.

Their once in a decade victory over an overrated Gators team with a Swiss Cheese defense?

Those are basically the two wins they are living off of, and neither was very impressive to me where I sat back and said "This Georgia team is for real."

I think they got hot last year, more than anything else.

This is a solid team. Don't get me wrong. Top 15, maybe top 10.

Pre-season number 1? Picked to win the east? UF vs. UGA coming into that game both teams undefeated?

Is everyone on crack? Or is the media trying to make everyone go broke. This georgia team has nowhere to go but DOWN. Everyone will be gunning for them, and they are not seasoned enough overall and they are not GREAT enough to mow down their schedule unscathed.

Lot of hype.

Georgia should be a great fade this year with over-inflated point spreads.

Look at their schedule on top of it all:

AT South Carolina
AT Arizona State
(Back to back)

Then just a small gauntlet of:

AT LSU
AT FLORIDA (Jax)
AT Kentucky
AT Auburn

4 straight weeks away from home with a defense that as fast and as good as they were last year is still a young group overall that can be beaten, especially on 4 straight road games.

Back to back home games vs. an up and coming Bama team, and probably the most underrated team in the SEC this year in Tennessee.

Georgia should have 2-3 straight up losses next year and no chance at the title game.

They'll crush Georgia Southern game 1, it will look like business as usual, and they will go to SC where the Ole Ball Coach always plays them tough and they will have their hands full there right out of the gate.

Thats all I got for now.:smoker2:

 

[OTK]

How are they overrated? They aren't even favored as the best team in the SEC? If everyone was saying their the top dog to beat for the NC then maybe I could get why you'd say they're overrated, but Florida is the biggest favorite from that conference, not Georgia.

Their season win total is only 9.

 

[bigtendominator]

How are they overrated? They aren't even favored as the best team in the SEC? If everyone was saying their the top dog to beat for the NC then maybe I could get why you'd say they're overrated, but Florida is the biggest favorite from that conference, not Georgia.

Their season win total is only 9.

Yes, but they are in everyone's Top 5. That would make them overrated in my book.

 

[Furmanski]

Georgia Bulldogs.

I threw up in my mouth twice and am laughing my ass off at this media-fest for this team.

What makes everyone think this team is so unbeatable?

Is it the fact that they struggled on the road last year?

Was it their BIG huge win over overrated out-talented Hawaii in their bowl game? That game was a joke, Hawaii would have been overmatched to 15 teams.

Their once in a decade victory over an overrated Gators team with a Swiss Cheese defense?

Those are basically the two wins they are living off of, and neither was very impressive to me where I sat back and said "This Georgia team is for real."

I think they got hot last year, more than anything else.

This is a solid team. Don't get me wrong. Top 15, maybe top 10.

Pre-season number 1? Picked to win the east? UF vs. UGA coming into that game both teams undefeated?

Is everyone on crack? Or is the media trying to make everyone go broke. This georgia team has nowhere to go but DOWN. Everyone will be gunning for them, and they are not seasoned enough overall and they are not GREAT enough to mow down their schedule unscathed.

Lot of hype.

Georgia should be a great fade this year with over-inflated point spreads.

Look at their schedule on top of it all:

AT South Carolina
AT Arizona State
(Back to back)

Then just a small gauntlet of:

AT LSU
AT FLORIDA (Jax)
AT Kentucky
AT Auburn

4 straight weeks away from home with a defense that as fast and as good as they were last year is still a young group overall that can be beaten, especially on 4 straight road games.

Back to back home games vs. an up and coming Bama team, and probably the most underrated team in the SEC this year in Tennessee.

Georgia should have 2-3 straight up losses next year and no chance at the title game.

They'll crush Georgia Southern game 1, it will look like business as usual, and they will go to SC where the Ole Ball Coach always plays them tough and they will have their hands full there right out of the gate.

Thats all I got for now.:smoker2:

What's up Box,

I have to disagree with a lot of the stuff that you have written.

UGA is returning 7 off. starters including arguably their 2 best players in Stafford and Moreno, and basically the entire OL is a year older as they started 1 senior, 1 sophomore and 3 freshman last year. They are returning 9 def. starters from a team that ranked in the top 20 in total defense and scoring defense last year.

Yes, the schedule is brutal this year, but I don't see how you say they are overrated.

They were picked behind FL in the SEC east, and I expect them to be #4 preseason behind OSU, USC and FL. Personally, I think that FL struggles on defense again this year much more so than UGA will. The problems in the secondary haven't been solved, and good teams should be able to exploit this weakness as they did last year.

"Their once in a decade victory over an overrated Gators team with a Swiss Cheese defense?"

All-time record UGA vs. FL: 47-37-2.

Best of luck this year. Looking forward to reading you analysis for the games. I just don't agree that UGA is overrated in the slightest this year...incredibly tough schedule, but not overrated.

 

[sarcean]

Georgia won their last 7 games, when all the other top teams couldn't keep anything consistent and ended #2 in the country. They absolutely demolished unbeaten Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl, and bring back the most talent this Georgia team has seen since the days of Hershel Walker.

Now yes Georgia does have the @LSU, @Auburn, @Arizona State, and @UF ('neutral' in Jacksonville) but Mark Richt has a 25-4 record in road games which is quite amazing considering the level of the teams they have to play in the SEC. And you are an idiot if you think Georgia had a "once-in-a-decade win" versus UF. Newsflash: Georgia is 2-2 versus UF in the last 4 years.

Also remember how Georgia closed out last year...12 point win over #11 UF, 10 point win over Troy, 25 point win over #18 Auburn, 11 point win over #23 Kentucky, 14 point win over Georgia Tech, and a 31 point win over #10 Hawaii. They DEFINITELY did cover spreads and looked damn good doing it.

Stafford should be better, the receiving corps is the best it has been in a long time, obviously they have a hell of a running back in Knowshon Moreno and he might not even be the most talented rb on the team! (Caleb King red shirted last year). They have deep talent on both side of the ball and the defense is brutal/fast (see Hawaii game). The only question mark is the true freshman kicker they will start, but he is rated one of the top kicker prospects in the nation.

Sure the team has a tough schedule (which you can't fault a team for), but they are the best team in the nation by far coming in to this season.

Have fun fading..you will be a broke motherfucker :nohead:

 

[BigOrange+]

How are da Ohio State Luckeyes not your most overrated team? Are you on crack or something. Can't be an SEC team, there are 4 teams in the SEC that could win the national championship this year if they get the right breaks.

 

[KingsRansom]

:lolBIG:

Funny post


Legit Top 5 team all the way.

They've won 10 or more games 5 of the past 6 seasons playing in the SEC. Not even LSU can match that.

In each of the past 2 years they've only returned 9 players yet still managed to win 20 games. They're loaded to the gills this year with 17 returning and no identifiable weakness anywhere.

Their schedule is absolutely brutal but is irrelevant when discussing the merits of their team. Theoretically any team in the top 10, never mind top 5, will not offer much value at the window.

This looks like an outstanding team that should be a joy to watch all year.


:drink:

 

[silver7]

Based Purely On Talent ignoring That Schedule

I rank Ga. a top 3 tm., OU, OSU, & USC or Gators. My pick for the NC OU or Luckeyes. Only 32 days. Why are we still mentioning possibly the over rated-hyped team of all time 2007 Hawaii? They were a complete joke and had no business being in a BCS game.

 

[Boxslayer]

How are they overrated? They aren't even favored as the best team in the SEC? If everyone was saying their the top dog to beat for the NC then maybe I could get why you'd say they're overrated, but Florida is the biggest favorite from that conference, not Georgia.

Their season win total is only 9.

Most websites you read, most TV shows you watch, most blogs you read, most articles, and even SEC Media Day or the coaches poll(?) I believe, has them #1 in the East and beating LSU in the Title Game.

Bottom line, a lot of people are expecting big, big things out of Georgia this year.

 

[Boxslayer]

What's up Box,

I have to disagree with a lot of the stuff that you have written.

UGA is returning 7 off. starters including arguably their 2 best players in Stafford and Moreno, and basically the entire OL is a year older as they started 1 senior, 1 sophomore and 3 freshman last year. They are returning 9 def. starters from a team that ranked in the top 20 in total defense and scoring defense last year.

Yes, the schedule is brutal this year, but I don't see how you say they are overrated.

They were picked behind FL in the SEC east, and I expect them to be #4 preseason behind OSU, USC and FL. Personally, I think that FL struggles on defense again this year much more so than UGA will. The problems in the secondary haven't been solved, and good teams should be able to exploit this weakness as they did last year.

"Their once in a decade victory over an overrated Gators team with a Swiss Cheese defense?"

All-time record UGA vs. FL: 47-37-2.

Best of luck this year. Looking forward to reading you analysis for the games. I just don't agree that UGA is overrated in the slightest this year...incredibly tough schedule, but not overrated.

This post isnt about Florida. I can go on for days as well why Florida is still overrated and it starts with defense. This isnt a fan discussion, moreso of a looking down the road capping discussion, so please disregard my avatar. And my once a decade wording was probably better worded as "they finally beat the Gators this decade". However you word it, the point is that the win over the Gators is very overhyped because of the unsportsmanlike penalty and the fact that Georgia finally won. Florida lost 3 or 4 games last year, and with their defense was very beatable, just as they should be this year.

I don't care how many starters are returning, that doesnt make a great football team, just like the Gators return everyone and their mother on defense doesnt mean that unit will be great.

Here's yet another article just doing a basic GA Bulldog search on Google, first result for recent news about National Title Hype:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/24/sports/FBC-SEC-Staying-On-Top.php

 

[BigPapaPat]

yet another SEC rules the world thread....

 

[MajorGCG]

UGA is a very good team, so I disagree with Box to a degree. But UGA will never be a title contender until Stafford becomes what everone hopes he can be. The fact is that right now he's just a mediocre QB.

UGA's schedule is pretty nasty and I think having to fight LSU's defense before going to Jax will be interesting. UT has had UGAs number for some reason, but conversely UGA has had AUs number. If UF can make it through their gauntlet in 06, then it's plausible that UGA can as well. Mediocre offense, great defense...sound familiar?

The season for UF and UGA will, IMO, come down to the Cocktail Party and the winner will go on to Atlanta and possibly the NC.

 

[Boxslayer]

yet another SEC rules the world thread....

I say Georgia is the most overrated team by far and it gets twisted into an SEC Rules the World Thread?

Somebody has inferiority complex.

 

[Boxslayer]

UGA is a very good team, so I disagree with Box to a degree. But UGA will never be a title contender until Stafford becomes what everone hopes he can be. The fact is that right now he's just a mediocre QB.

UGA's schedule is pretty nasty and I think having to fight LSU's defense before going to Jax will be interesting. UT has had UGAs number for some reason, but conversely UGA has had AUs number. If UF can make it through their gauntlet in 06, then it's plausible that UGA can as well. Mediocre offense, great defense...sound familiar?

The season for UF and UGA will, IMO, come down to the Cocktail Party and the winner will go on to Atlanta and possibly the NC.

Never said they werent a good team. Georgia IS a good team. I'm saying all of the National Title talk for Georgia is lots of hype. Georgia has an outside chance to make a BCS Bowl game, but that will be the best they will do.

Same for Florida while we are at it.

I will disagree that Georgia's defense is "great". And thats really one of the main points of my argument. You need MEN on defense to run the gauntlet and play for a title, regardless of schedule, and right now Georgia doesnt have many NFL-Ready MEN. They have speed on defense, but they are still young, good but not dominant, and one true NFL player in Owens on defense, who isnt a game changer - probably a 3rd round kind of guy.

Stafford is a project at QB, and has an NFL-ready arm and body, but that doesnt make him a great QB now. He was 50+ in the country at QB rating last year nationwide, has never thrown less than 10 picks in his career, and teams will be keying on Knowshon this year.

When the Gators, as an example, went to the title game, they had only like 3 games where they gave up more than 17 points, but never more than 27 or something crazy. Georgia gave up 34 to Troy, 35 to Tennessee, 30 to Florida, 20 to Auburn, 23 to Bama, etc. You can score on Georgia, they arent going to shut you down. Mix that with a game where Stafford has 2 picks, and I dont care who they are playing, it will be a recipe for a loss. Not enough dominant guys on defense, a bunch of up and comers with talent, but no NFL MEN.

People forget that the unsportsmanlike penalty on Georgia was to give them a kick in the ass and motivate them. Great teams dont need a kick in the ass.

Bottom line, Georgia is a good football team. But they are the hunted from day 1, they arent GREAT enough to overcome it, they arent dominant enough to endure it, and to top it all off their schedule is nasty.

Georgia = Overrated.

 

[Boxslayer]

Georgia won their last 7 games, when all the other top teams couldn't keep anything consistent and ended #2 in the country. They absolutely demolished unbeaten Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl, and bring back the most talent this Georgia team has seen since the days of Hershel Walker.

Now yes Georgia does have the @LSU, @Auburn, @Arizona State, and @UF ('neutral' in Jacksonville) but Mark Richt has a 25-4 record in road games which is quite amazing considering the level of the teams they have to play in the SEC. And you are an idiot if you think Georgia had a "once-in-a-decade win" versus UF. Newsflash: Georgia is 2-2 versus UF in the last 4 years.

Also remember how Georgia closed out last year...12 point win over #11 UF, 10 point win over Troy, 25 point win over #18 Auburn, 11 point win over #23 Kentucky, 14 point win over Georgia Tech, and a 31 point win over #10 Hawaii. They DEFINITELY did cover spreads and looked damn good doing it.

Stafford should be better, the receiving corps is the best it has been in a long time, obviously they have a hell of a running back in Knowshon Moreno and he might not even be the most talented rb on the team! (Caleb King red shirted last year). They have deep talent on both side of the ball and the defense is brutal/fast (see Hawaii game). The only question mark is the true freshman kicker they will start, but he is rated one of the top kicker prospects in the nation.

Sure the team has a tough schedule (which you can't fault a team for), but they are the best team in the nation by far coming in to this season.

Have fun fading..you will be a broke motherfucker :nohead:

In order to make money in this game, you have to think against the grain.

Every year, I make similiar posts to this coming into the season where I pick a few teams that stand out for whatever reason as being overhyped, or whatever it may be, and these posts have been fortunate enough to have been correct.

Put down the remote control, turn off ESPN, and judging from how much you know about UGA, take off the red and black goggles.

The Hawaii win to me is thrown out the window. Completely and utterly thrown out the window. It means absolutely nothing to me as a handicapper coming into this season. It didnt tell me anything new about Georgia, except for the fact that Hawaii was clearly overrated playing in a dogshit conference.

Those types of wins in bowl games, are the biggest wins that lead to hype year in and year out. The last game always stands out the most, and clouds judgement on a team.

Handicappers and the general public think week to week. "Oh they blew out so and so last week, they will easily crush these guys."

Well when you have a bowl game, and there is a 30+ margin of victory in a BCS Bowl, and then 6 months off to think about it, it leads to even more hype.

People seem to forget the following things about Georgia:

1. This team has historically under the leadership of Mark Richt, NEVER, and I mean, NEVER performed well and has shit down their leg once the national spotlight and the bullseye is on their back. This team has never had more attention then they do now, and I promise you they are not ready for it because there are not enough leaders, enough juniors and seniors, enough NFL MEN.
2. Their wins down the stretch weren't overly impressive. As you posted, they won 7 games down the stretch when other top teams couldn't do anything consistent. Thats why they stood out. In a season of upsets and craziness, they were one of the only teams to put together a little streak. But their schedule down the stretch was very average: a week off before playing an overrated Florida team, giving up 34 to Troy, beating an Auburn team w/ 3 losses including a loss to Miss State, beating a Kentucky team who was unraveling at the seams, beating an out-talented Ga Tech team, and a clearly out-talented Hawaii team. They basically took advantage of a schedule on paper that looks ok, but it really wasnt much of a challenge for a team like Georgia that was hot last year and rolling down the stretch. If they would have played Oklahoma or somebody of that caliber in the BCS Bowl and beat them pretty soundly, I'd be right there with the hype. But the Hawaii game proves nothing to me.
4. This Georgia team got blown out by Tennessee 35-14, went to overtime and had a 3-point win vs. Bama, got shut down 12-16 vs. South Carolina, escaped with a 3-point win at Vandy, had an overhyped penalty and win over FL where everyone pronounced them a new team, then gave up 34 points to Troy, won a few games vs. teams that were shells with a nice logo and beat up on an overrated, overmatched Hawaii team to seal off the hype.

Again, don't get me wrong, Georgia is a good football team. I'm not saying they arent good. I'm not saying they arent gonna have some nice wins this year. But dont be surprised when they have 2-3 losses.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

I played 1/2 unit on Jawja under 9.5 wins.

Solid team, but their schedule is tough as usual with SEC.

If they lose one game before October I really like the chances of them losing 3 games this season.

 

[clowncar]

I just assumed this thread was about USC ....

 

[Kruser6]

Hey box it's good to see you back!

 

[Boxslayer]

I played 1/2 unit on Jawja under 9.5 wins.

Solid team, but their schedule is tough as usual with SEC.

If they lose one game before October I really like the chances of them losing 3 games this season.

nice play

and thanks for the kind words last year woof

 

[Boxslayer]

Hey box it's good to see you back!

thanks, looking forward to college foozball