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to a certain degree i'm posting this here as almost a personal blog. but i thought others might find it interesting.... my guess also is that the preseason ratings mostly reflect where teams finished last season. few adjustments for returning starters etc...

surprised cal didn't fall after yesterday's loss but it's probably the prime example of a team that should have had an power rating improvement bump from last season


most improved:
Temple
Appalachian State
California
Southern Mississippi
Connecticut
Ohio
Akron
Northwestern
Massachusetts
Michigan
Florida International
Iowa
Kentucky
Memphis
Western Kentucky
Indiana
Florida
Wake Forest
Nevada-Las Vegas
Georgia Southern
Tulsa
Illinois
Toledo
Utah
South Florida

most deteriorated (worst at bottom):
Virginia
Missouri
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisville
Auburn
Maryland
Texas State
Old Dominion
Arkansas State
New Mexico State
Oregon State
Rutgers
Florida Atlantic
Colorado State
Georgia Tech
Nebraska
Louisiana-Lafayette
Texas-El Paso
South Carolina
Oregon
Fresno State
Kansas
North Texas
Wyoming
Central Florida
 

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The Nebraska hire has to be the biggest head scratcher in years for a major program.
 

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i dont think its fair to put Missouri in that catagory
 

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i dont think its fair to put Missouri in that catagory

the ratings are purely quantitative so it's hard for them to be unfair, except by misleading scores.

i looked up another set of ratings (phil steele) from before last weekend and these ones would use definite pre-season ratings that are adjusted for off-sesaon changes. and those ratings had missouri as 9th biggest deterioration amongst ncaa teams.
 

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The Nebraska hire has to be the biggest head scratcher in years for a major program.

Callahan hire set Nebraska back 15 years. This looks to be a repeat. Banker is an elementary DC. Simply atrocious, he's not remotely serviceable. Joel fucking Stave passed for 300. I understand some of the offense trying to transition, but 3 losses directly related to the OC not being able to close it out....not a fucking 1. Riley could be a decent ceo, except he brought all his pals with their underdog mentality. I hope this fucking team loses evey game and these guys resign from the pressure. The jokes on us. Uncle.
 

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This is relative to where I had them rated at the beginning of the season:

Up:

Houston
Bowling Green
Texas-San Antonio
Michigan
Toledo
UNLV
Connecticut
Western Kentucky
Iowa
Southern Miss


Down:

Central Florida (by a wide margin)
Auburn
Ohio St
Missouri
Oregon
Texas-El Paso
North Texas
Fresno St
Kansas
Maryland,Arkansas,Michigan St
 

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Callahan hire set Nebraska back 15 years. This looks to be a repeat. Banker is an elementary DC. Simply atrocious, he's not remotely serviceable. Joel fucking Stave passed for 300. I understand some of the offense trying to transition, but 3 losses directly related to the OC not being able to close it out....not a fucking 1. Riley could be a decent ceo, except he brought all his pals with their underdog mentality. I hope this fucking team loses evey game and these guys resign from the pressure. The jokes on us. Uncle.
RLR.... Have to tell you, being from same home town as Pelini I smile after every Nebraska loss.. By season end they will wish Bo was still there ( some may have already ) the world has changed so much from the days of Osborne but they still live in those days. I can't imagine how difficult it is recruiting because there just isn't much there.. I have played the game and coached it and I would much have a guy like Bo who was emotional, fierce and you knew exactly how he felt... Now they have just the opposite.. Once the kids he recruited are gone things will only get worse IMO. It's crazy when you think about the ole saying.. Be careful what you ask for.
 

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I'm not sure i would put auburn on the deteriorated list. They were way overated on preseason rankings and projections but they were only 8-5 last year , so they havent really deteriorated that much , they just didnt meet expectations. ....The pollsters and pundits really missed it bad here , if you look at how many young players they are playing there was no reason for such high expectations. ....I guess it was the muschamp factor.
 

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RLR.... Have to tell you, being from same home town as Pelini I smile after every Nebraska loss.. By season end they will wish Bo was still there ( some may have already ) the world has changed so much from the days of Osborne but they still live in those days. I can't imagine how difficult it is recruiting because there just isn't much there.. I have played the game and coached it and I would much have a guy like Bo who was emotional, fierce and you knew exactly how he felt... Now they have just the opposite.. Once the kids he recruited are gone things will only get worse IMO. It's crazy when you think about the ole saying.. Be careful what you ask for.

There is possibly a small fraction that still wants Bo, but remember his teams were giving up 500 yards rushing to Wisconsin PER GAME. Pelini had to go, and not for the countless beatdowns always on national tv, but because he was toxic for much of the fan base and for the players because he made the fans enemy number 1. That's Nebraska's program, not the coaches. Some of his assistants are STILL trying to plant seeds of discontent with the current players. That's sad really and shows some immaturity and lack of professionalism, because the players are still very loyal to their former coaches. These new guys didn't do themselves any favors with poor late game strategy.

As far as recruiting, I'm not sure what you mean by their is nothing there. My guess is you've never been. As far as athletic facilities and experience for recruits, they all say same thing and come away shocked. It doesn't fall in line with the stereotype. The problem with recruiting is getting there. Let's face it, current rules aren't favorable for Nebraska. When you can't get kids to official until football season, they play friday night, you play Saturday morning. It's tough unless they got their own dime to travel, which I don't think is common. Junior officialsand paid travel for 1 parent (like basketball) would be a big boost for Nebraska.
 

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There is possibly a small fraction that still wants Bo, but remember his teams were giving up 500 yards rushing to Wisconsin PER GAME. Pelini had to go, and not for the countless beatdowns always on national tv, but because he was toxic for much of the fan base and for the players because he made the fans enemy number 1. That's Nebraska's program, not the coaches. Some of his assistants are STILL trying to plant seeds of discontent with the current players. That's sad really and shows some immaturity and lack of professionalism, because the players are still very loyal to their former coaches. These new guys didn't do themselves any favors with poor late game strategy.

As far as recruiting, I'm not sure what you mean by their is nothing there. My guess is you've never been. As far as athletic facilities and experience for recruits, they all say same thing and come away shocked. It doesn't fall in line with the stereotype. The problem with recruiting is getting there. Let's face it, current rules aren't favorable for Nebraska. When you can't get kids to official until football season, they play friday night, you play Saturday morning. It's tough unless they got their own dime to travel, which I don't think is common. Junior officialsand paid travel for 1 parent (like basketball) would be a big boost for Nebraska.

what i meant was not facilities but getting there.. so far away from everything and these kids today are much different then 30 years ago, not intended to diminish facilities. Given locations, travel, and all that goes with it, it is hard to get kids there is all i meant.. facilities are great. Its just tuff place like so many places and sometimes the grass is not greener on the other side i guess... I think we can agree it was the fans/administration who did not like the person Bo was now they have the complete opposite... I think in the end you are judged by wins and losses tbh. He avg 9/10 wins a year.. so anything less would be considered a failure imo.
 

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speaking of improvement. here is Pitt on the defensive side of the ball....

Opponent yards per game:
2014 Pitt: 384.4 (#47 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 230.0 (#3 in nation)

Opponent yards per play:
2014 Pitt: 5.7 (#90 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 3.7 (#3 in nation)

Sacks per game:
2014 Pitt: 1.4 (#104 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 3.8 (#4 in nation)

Opponent yards per carry:
2014 Pitt: 4.7 (#88 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 2.6 (#4 in nation)

Opponent passer rating:
2014 Pitt: 125.5 (#49 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 93.8 (#8 in nation)

Opponent yards per completion:
2014 Pitt: 13.4 (#111 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 10.3 (#14 in nation)

have to see where they rate at season's end but the turnaround on defense has been incredible considering they recruited poorly on that side of the ball for many years
 

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I think in the end you are judged by wins and losses tbh. He avg 9/10 wins a year.. so anything less would be considered a failure imo.

Yup. But to be honest, Schedule-wise 9 wins should be expected regardless the coach, unless you are losing to teams you shouldn't be (Riley) or never winning any of the big games (Pelini).
 

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speaking of improvement. here is Pitt on the defensive side of the ball....

Opponent yards per game:
2014 Pitt: 384.4 (#47 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 230.0 (#3 in nation)

Opponent yards per play:
2014 Pitt: 5.7 (#90 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 3.7 (#3 in nation)

Sacks per game:
2014 Pitt: 1.4 (#104 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 3.8 (#4 in nation)

Opponent yards per carry:
2014 Pitt: 4.7 (#88 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 2.6 (#4 in nation)

Opponent passer rating:
2014 Pitt: 125.5 (#49 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 93.8 (#8 in nation)

Opponent yards per completion:
2014 Pitt: 13.4 (#111 in nation)
2015 Pitt: 10.3 (#14 in nation)

have to see where they rate at season's end but the turnaround on defense has been incredible considering they recruited poorly on that side of the ball for many years

Amazing what good coaching can do.
 

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Oregon has to be the biggest collapse from 2014 to 2015 it pains me to say as a Duck fan, the losseds aren't done piling up......
 

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