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Veteran Suicides: 18 every day, 1,000 attempts per month


Eighteen American war veterans kill themselves every day. One thousand former soldiers receiving care from the Department of Veterans Affairs attempt suicide every month. More veterans are committing suicide than are dying in combat overseas.

These are statistics that most Americans don't know, because the Bush administration has refused to tell them. Since the start of the Iraq War, the government has tried to present it as a war without casualties.

In fact, they never would have come to light were it not for a class action lawsuit brought by Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans United for Truth on behalf of the 1.7 million Americans who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. The two groups allege the Department of Veterans Affairs has systematically denied mental health care and disability benefits to veterans returning from the conflict zones.

The case, officially known as Veterans for Common Sense vs. Peake, went to trial last month at a Federal Courthouse in San Francisco. The two sides are still filing briefs until May 19 and waiting for a ruling from Judge Samuel Conti, but the case is already having an impact.

That's because over the course of the two week trial, the VA was compelled to produce a series of documents that show the extent of the crisis effecting wounded soldiers.

"Shh!" begins one e-mail from Dr. Ira Katz, the head of the VA's Mental Health Division, advising a media spokesperson not to tell CBS News that 1,000 veterans receiving care at the VA try to kill themselves every month.

"Our suicide prevention coordinators are identifying about 1,000 suicide attempts per month among the veterans we see in our medical facilities. Is this something we should (carefully) address ourselves in some sort of release before someone stumbles on it?" the e-mail concludes.

Leading Democrats on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee immediately called for Katz's resignation. On May 6, the Chair of the House Committee on Veterans Affairs, Bob Filner (D-CA) convened a hearing titled "The Truth About Veteran's Suicides" and called Katz and VA Secretary James Peake to testify.

"That e-mail was in poor tone but the content was part of a dialogue about what we should do about new information," Katz said in response to Filner's questions. "The e-mail represents a healthy dialogue among members of VA staff about when it's appropriate to disclose and make public information early in the process."

Filner was nonplused and accused Katz and Peake of a "cover-up."

"We should all be angry about what has gone on here," Filner said. "This is a matter of life and death for the veterans that we are responsible for and I think there was criminal negligence in the way this was handled. If we do not admit, assume or know then the problem will continue and people will die. If that's not criminal negligence, I don't know what is."

It's also part of a pattern. The high number of veteran suicides weren't the only government statistics the Bush Administration was forced to reveal because of the class action lawsuit.

Another set of documents presented in court showed that in the six months leading up to March 31, a total of 1,467 veterans died waiting to learn if their disability claim would be approved by the government. A third set of documents showed that veterans who appeal a VA decision to deny their disability claim have to wait an average of 1,608 days, or nearly four and a half years, for their answer.

Other casualty statistics are not directly concealed, but are also not revealed on a regular basis. For example, the Pentagon regularly reports on the numbers of American troops "wounded" in Iraq (currently at 31,948) but neglects to mention that it has two other categories "injured" (10,180) and "ill" (28,451). All three of these categories represent soldiers who are so damaged physically they have to be medically evacuated to Germany for treatment, but by splitting the numbers up the sense of casualties down the public consciousness.

Here's another number that we don't often hear discussed in the media: 287,790. That's the number of returning Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who had filed a disability claim with the Veterans Administration as of March 25th. That figure was not announced to the public at a news conference, but obtained by Veterans for Common Sense using the Freedom of Information Act.

Why all the secrecy? Why is it so hard to get accurate casualty figures out of our government? Because the Bush Administration knows if Americans woke up to the real, human costs of this war they would fight harder to oppose it.

Think back to 2002, before the invasion of Iraq, when leading neoconservative thinker and Donald Rumsfeld aide Ken Adelman predicted the war would be a "cakewalk."

Or consider this statement from Vice President Dick Cheney. Two days before the invasion, Cheney told NBC's Tim Russert the war would "go relatively quickly, (ending in) weeks rather than months."

Today, those comments are gone but the motivation behind them remains. This is why the VA's head of mental health wrote "Shh!" telling a spokesperson not to respond to a reporters' inquiry.

But all the shhing in the world cannot stop the horrible pain that's mounting after five years of war in Iraq and nearly seven years of war in Afghanistan.

Unpleasant Facts
According to an April 2008 study by the Rand Corporation, 300,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans currently suffer from post traumatic stress disorder or major depression. Another 320,000 suffer from traumatic brain injury, physical brain damage. A majority are not receiving help from the Pentagon and VA system which are more concerned with concealing unpleasant facts than they are with providing care.

In its study, the RAND Corporation wrote that the federal government fails to care for war veterans at its own peril, noting post traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury "can have far reaching and damaging consequences."

"Individuals afflicted with these conditions face higher risks for other psychological problems and for attempting suicide. They have higher rates of unhealthy behaviors such as smoking, overeating, and unsafe sex and higher rates of physical health problems and mortality. Individuals with these conditions also tend to miss more work or report being less productive," the report said. "These conditions can impair relationships, disrupt marriages, aggravate the difficulties of parenting, and cause problems in children that may extend the consequences of combat trauma across generations."

"These consequences can have a high economic toll," RAND said. "However, most attempts to measure the costs of these conditions focus only on medical costs to the government. Yet, direct costs of treatment are only a fraction of the total costs related to mental health and cognitive conditions. Far higher are the long-term individual and societal costs stemming from lost productivity, reduced quality of life, homelessness, domestic violence, the strain on families, and suicide. Delivering effective care and restoring veterans to full mental health have the potential to reduce these longer-term costs significantly."

Bush and Congress have the power to stop this problem before it gets worse. It's not too late to extend needed mental health care to our returning Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans; it's not too late to begin properly screening and treating returning servicemen and women who've experienced a traumatic brain injury; and it is not too late to simplify the disability claims process so that wounded veterans do not die waiting for their check. As the Rand study shows, this isn't only in the best interest of veterans, it's in the best interest of our country in the long run.

To start with, the Bush Administration needs to give us some honest information about the true human costs of the Iraq War.

Aaron Glantz, a Foreign Policy In Focus contributor, is the author of two upcoming books on Iraq: The War Comes Home: Washington's Battle Against America's Veterans (UC Press) and Winter Soldier Iraq and Afghanistan: Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupations (Haymarket). He edits the website WarComesHome.org.
 

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I can't begin to spell out the anger I feel toward these liberal anti-war idiots who try to make Veterans out to be suicidal psychotic killers.

The suicide rate among Vietnam Vets in the five years following their return was about twice the normal rate. 35 years after the end of the war, the average suicide rate for Vietnam Vets is still higher than norm. PTSD plays a major role in such rates - but everyone seems to turn a blind eye to the treatment returning Vets get. The newspapers make them out to be psychotic killers while college professors and their student stooges paint the Vets as mercenary stooges rather than Patriots serving their country.

Does anyone believe it could be different for Veterans returning from an unpopular Iraq war?

When discussing the problems of returning Veterans, I rarely see the word "self medication", but I often see the words "alcoholism" and "drug addiction" as though the Vets have criminal proclivities rather than real psycholigical problems.

Left wing bum kissing officer veterans like John Murtha of Abscam fame and John Effin Kerry who "Reported to Duty" often accuse Veterans of attrocities that they didn't commit. Kerry compared Vietnam veterans to Ghengis Khan while Murtha accused all Marines involved in Haditha of murder before there was a trial where all but one was found to be innocent of any wrong-doing.

I'm not dismissing the VA - the rank and file VA claim reviewers are stuck following a very complex and limiting 38 CFR while the Congress and Executive branch ignore the real issues until the shit hits the fan.

The extreme liberal left hates the military and they take their hate out on the very soldier who would give his life to protect their lives and liberties. They asuage their feelings by painting vets with the meanest image possible when the exact opposite is the truth.

The way our nation treats its hero Veterans is a shame!
 

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BB, just amazing how you took that article and spun it into liberal hate rhetoric.

To start with, the Bush Administration needs to give us some honest information about the true human costs of the Iraq War.

However, I agree with
The way our nation treats its hero Veterans is a shame!
 
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Robb:

right on Senor!!

Leave it to Queen Dittohead to make the story out to be "Liberal Hate
Rhetoric"
 

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Spin is right Rob

"the Bush administration" & "veterans", clearly meaning to imply a Bush administration problem, and an Iraqi war problem by extension.

I guarantee you the numbers include all veterans, including WWII vets.

I'll even suggest the numbers are probably twisted, as that what liars with an agenda do.
 

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I can't begin to spell out the anger I feel toward these liberal anti-war idiots who try to make Veterans out to be suicidal psychotic killers.

The suicide rate among Vietnam Vets in the five years following their return was about twice the normal rate. 35 years after the end of the war, the average suicide rate for Vietnam Vets is still higher than norm. PTSD plays a major role in such rates - but everyone seems to turn a blind eye to the treatment returning Vets get. The newspapers make them out to be psychotic killers while college professors and their student stooges paint the Vets as mercenary stooges rather than Patriots serving their country.

Does anyone believe it could be different for Veterans returning from an unpopular Iraq war?

When discussing the problems of returning Veterans, I rarely see the word "self medication", but I often see the words "alcoholism" and "drug addiction" as though the Vets have criminal proclivities rather than real psycholigical problems.

Left wing bum kissing officer veterans like John Murtha of Abscam fame and John Effin Kerry who "Reported to Duty" often accuse Veterans of attrocities that they didn't commit. Kerry compared Vietnam veterans to Ghengis Khan while Murtha accused all Marines involved in Haditha of murder before there was a trial where all but one was found to be innocent of any wrong-doing.

I'm not dismissing the VA - the rank and file VA claim reviewers are stuck following a very complex and limiting 38 CFR while the Congress and Executive branch ignore the real issues until the shit hits the fan.

The extreme liberal left hates the military and they take their hate out on the very soldier who would give his life to protect their lives and liberties. They asuage their feelings by painting vets with the meanest image possible when the exact opposite is the truth.

The way our nation treats its hero Veterans is a shame!


Wow...this is one of the strangest spin jobs I've ever seen. I'm speechless.

So a hawkish Republican Admnistration shoehorned evidence to fit their preconceived notions to launch us into a poorly planned war, with the main victims being the Iraqi people and our military...

...yet somehow it's the Democrats fault?

I must say I'm amazed at the partisan hackery in this post. I would be really, really surprised if you believe a word of what you typed.
 
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Bblight exposed himself WIDE OPEN for the way his mind "attempts" to
generate thought patterns ...


:nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead:
 

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wtf does the left have to do with the fact that these soldiers are going crazy. i think it has to do a little more with the WAR.
 
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Its easy for folks like Bblight to hide behind a computer acting all tough
and blame everything on the Left

Hell ... Limbaugh called American Soldiers PHONY S0LDIERS and that
acceptable to BBlight and company on this forum
 

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i think it is more the anti depressant drugs causing the problems than ptsd. my cousin recently shot and killed himself after returning from duty. he was home for 4 months, was not the same, died 2 weeks after starting the medication.
 

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Post traumatic stress disorder is no effing joke.

Some of us, might strongly disagree on the war. But nobody is upset with the boys doing their job. Or the the vets that have done their job.
 

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Wow...this is one of the strangest spin jobs I've ever seen. I'm speechless.

So a hawkish Republican Admnistration shoehorned evidence to fit their preconceived notions to launch us into a poorly planned war, with the main victims being the Iraqi people and our military...

...yet somehow it's the Democrats fault?

I must say I'm amazed at the partisan hackery in this post. I would be really, really surprised if you believe a word of what you typed.

I can't say it any better than that.
 

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Wow...this is one of the strangest spin jobs I've ever seen. I'm speechless.

So a hawkish Republican Admnistration shoehorned evidence to fit their preconceived notions to launch us into a poorly planned war, with the main victims being the Iraqi people and our military...

...yet somehow it's the Democrats fault?

I must say I'm amazed at the partisan hackery in this post. I would be really, really surprised if you believe a word of what you typed.

...yet somehow it's the Democrats fault?

Huh?

I'd like to see the quote where I mention Democrats!

My post is aimed at the liberal media, liberal academia and their student stooges, the do nothing Congress which is made up of Republicans and Democrats and the EXECUTIVE branch, which means the Republican White House.

I took aim at the liberal left because they ARE guilty of this evil manifestation of hate toward our soldiers.

Nowhere did I specifically point to Democrats. I think this a freudian slip and an expression of guilt on your part.
 

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they are killing themselves since they are haunted for the lives they took overseas. i'd probably try myself if i went through a similar situation.

the person to blame: the military for allowing anybody to go over without checking out the mental mindset of people. you have to be a special breed to be a killer, whether thats good or not is up to interpretation.
 

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BB, just amazing how you took that article and spun it into liberal hate rhetoric.



However, I agree with


I agree about the Bush administration - nowhere in post do I support their treatment of vets.

My problem is the negative focus the liberal left puts on war Vets along with a VA that's handcuffed by arcane and aging disability regulations and a bunch of hack politicians who do nothing beyond lip service to resolve problems that have been recognized since WWII.

For those of you that don't know, the VA does a good job within the scope that it is allowed to. It could be much better, but don't blame the people who run the system - they're good people and many of them are vets themselves.
 

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they are killing themselves since they are haunted for the lives they took overseas. i'd probably try myself if i went through a similar situation.

the person to blame: the military for allowing anybody to go over without checking out the mental mindset of people. you have to be a special breed to be a killer, whether thats good or not is up to interpretation.

I won't chastize you for such foolish sentiments because you obviously still live at home where mommy and daddy feed you and change your didi when you poop!
 

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I won't chastize you for such foolish sentiments because you obviously still live at home where mommy and daddy feed you and change your didi when you poop!

truth hurts don't it?

fact of the matter is if the military didn't take advantage of 18-21 year old kids who arnt developed mentally you wouldn't see this going on.

there is a reason why they offer 60k bonuses to sign up, to lure people to sign up, and entry standards are a joke.
 

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you have to be a special breed to be a killer, whether thats good or not is up to interpretation.
The guys always yelling "Get some!" are probably a good fit for it.

You ever see the movie 'Jarhead'? I'm not trying to say this is some classic war movie by any means but a few of the soldiers were actually going crazy because they didn't get to kill anyone. All the training and all the crap they went through it just drove them nuts to see an air strike negate their only chance for a kill.
 

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The guys always yelling "Get some!" are probably a good fit for it.

You ever see the movie 'Jarhead'? I'm not trying to say this is some classic war movie by any means but a few of the soldiers were actually going crazy because they didn't get to kill anyone. All the training and all the crap they went through it just drove them nuts to see an air strike negate their only chance for a kill.

and if you think about it we'd be way ahead of where we are now if we selected people with that mindset, because there are many that fit that psychological profile. military cant afford the extra costs though so they send these kids in straight out of high school who arn't prepared to deal with the hell that goes on over there. these people barely make it, come home, and blow there heads off because of what they did over there. military essentially sets these people up to fail.
 

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