More career saves Craig Kimbrell or mariano Rivera??

[CHOPTALK]

It's 1% plain and simple - plenty young relievers out here with a good number of saves...

Actually less than 1%%%

Name them

 

[Doug]

You still need longevity and Kimbrel is not a favorite to reach 600 saves ( IMO) but this record is far from untouchable.

 

[5teamparlay]

Just like you weren't going to post until after the All-Star break when Tiger finished out of the Top 10 in a particular tournament?

I had another screen name that i always posted under with no problem and wasn't hiding that fact... That in the meantime upset powers- so my terms of 5teamparlay not posting were compromised, lol.

 

[5teamparlay]

7/24/12:

O'Flaherty pitched a scoreless eight and Craig Kimbrel pitched the ninth for his 29th save in 30 chances.

 

[5teamparlay]

OVER UNDER SAVES FOR CRAIG IN 2013:

Craig Kimbrel - Total Regular Season Saves
361
Regular Season Saves
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[CHOPTALK]

Way over 5team
this guy is special

 

[CHOPTALK]

Less than 1% chance IMO.

You are way off on that 1%

 

[5teamparlay]

SAVE 92 for KIMBRELL:

Craig Kimbrel needed 28 pitches to get through the ninth. He struck out Adeiny Hechavarria with two on to complete the two-hitter for his third save.

 

[5teamparlay]

Congrats to mariano on save #611

Mariano Rivera, the last major leaguer still wearing the late Hall of Famer's No. 42 on a daily basis, closed for a save

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[ToddInVegas]

Not many closers have 15 year careers. Mariano is the exception.

A lot of guys have a good run for a few years and flame out. Eric Gagne, k-rod, Bilky Koch, soria are a few that come to mind

Huge long shot to believe that kimbrell will have a 15 year career and average 40 saves a year.

If you get 8 great years from a closer that's amazing. 15 likely not going to happen again

 

[5teamparlay]

I could list 100 that dominated for a span..


Well said above..


Calling Keith Foulke, Bobby Thigpen, Jose Mesa, Todd Percival, Todd Worrell, Bob Wickman. Eric Gagne, Brian Wilson, Jeff Shaw, Chad Cordero, joe borowski, and Ron Nen.

adding solame barojas, Al Hrabosky and Willie Hernandez.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I could list 100 that dominated for a span..


Well said above..


Calling Keith Foulke, Bobby Thigpen, Jose Mesa, Todd Percival, Todd Worrell, Bob Wickman. Eric Gagne, Brian Wilson, Jeff Shaw, Chad Cordero, joe borowski, and Ron Nen.

adding solame barojas, Al Hrabosky and Willie Hernandez.

Comparing Kimbrel to the likes of Mesa, Worrell, Wickman, Cordero,Borowski, Nen, and Gagne just shows a complete lack of knowledge and understanding.

Its laughable that anyone would mention any of those guys in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence.

 

[5teamparlay]

Comparing Kimbrel to the likes of Mesa, Worrell, Wickman, Cordero,Borowski, Nen, and Gagne just shows a complete lack of knowledge and understanding.

Its laughable that anyone would mention any of those guys in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence.

All those guys had over 46 saves in a year Cordero at 23.
It would take Gene Garber 60 years to get 612 saves.
in several years this thread will be a joke like Mark Davis, Joe Borowski, Steve Bedrosian and Danny Graves...

 

[CHOPTALK]

All those guys had over 46 saves in a year Cordero at 23.
It would take Gene Garber 60 years to get 612 saves.
in several years this thread will be a joke like Mark Davis, Joe Borowski, Steve Bedrosian and Danny Graves...

HILARIOUS!

You keep comparing Kimbrel to Danny Graves.
LOL

 

[5teamparlay]

Jorge Julio was doing good at 23 years old...


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6709/career;_ylt=AtLgSfTBofEYuDozrgW3eYaFCLcF

 

[CHOPTALK]

Jorge Julio was doing good at 23 years old...


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6709/career;_ylt=AtLgSfTBofEYuDozrgW3eYaFCLcF

There are saves, and then there are saves.


Its pretty obvious you have not seen Kimbrel pitch very much otherwise you would never compare him to some of these clowns you are comparing him to.

When Kimbrel gets in a game its over.

Its almost not fair.
I have seen everyone of those pitchers that you brought up.
None of them compare.

 

[CHOPTALK]

The only pitcher that even comes semi close to Kimbrel on your list in talent was Percival when he was in his first 2 season before injuries ruined him.
Other then him none of your list is even worth talking about.

 

[5teamparlay]

I'll go in detail on the 1% chance soon (injuries, death etc)-- all possibilities.
Glad the Braves are doing well this year, it helps his chances. Rivera had a perfect storm with good teams during his run, Craig's will not be better.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I'll go in detail on the 1% chance soon (injuries, death etc)-- all possibilities.
Glad the Braves are doing well this year, it helps his chances. Rivera had a perfect storm with good teams during his run, Craig's will not be better.

One of the biggest misconceptions about saves is people think a closer has to play for a great team to get a lot of saves.
This is not true.
Good teams often win games by more then 3 runs more often then bad teams.

Hoffman and Lee Smith are great examples of pitchers who saved tons of games on bad teams.

Kimbrel is on a great team.
But even if he was not this would not be a huge factor.

Rivera would have saved a ton of games no matter which team he played on.

 

[5teamparlay]

Not too many closers even have a 5 year run with a club..


randomly picked the Brewers - Dan Plesac all time leader 133... I could have picked the Astros, Orioles, White Sox or Mariners randomly...
http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/st...ing&league_code='MLB'&page=1&ts=1366343299035


Riviera went an entire career without losing his touch, not once.


Bob Horner at age 23 with over 100 home runs had a better chance at Hank Aaron