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too bad beli-choke didn't have any tapes to give him a heads-up on how quick the g-men d-line was gonna be.
 

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Even after being warned by the NFL, Bellichek decided to put his reputation on the line and continue doing it. Eiteher he was getting a huge advantage or he is really dumb. I vote for the former.
 

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Number 1 is nice if you want to throw the rules of logic out the window:
1.) There was no evidence found that the taping was used for the game being played.Therefore there was no cheating.

To be clearer on the point.What Belichick had said to Goodell what he did regarding the rule was consistent with other notes and tapes that the Pats had since 2000.These explanations although still in violations of the rules were consistent and good enough for Goodell and the comittee that there WAS NO EVIDENCE OF CHEATING IN THAT GAME OR ANY OTHER THAT THEY FOUND IN THEIR CONCLUSION.And also evidence was consistent to what Belichick told them.
Like I said you can be skeptical and draw your own conclusions,at the end of the day it YOUR conclusion not the NFL's.
They were fined for a rules violation not cheating.
 

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It just does not mean that much. Smart people know this. Dumb bells and haters do not . They need their motive to post or write or hate. IT IS NoT A BIG DEAL. This has gone on...it does not help teams win and many have done whatever taping or stealing has happened. Get a life and worry about something real. Pats went 18-0 last year you want to explain that?? yeah lets talk about them being 18-0 and why???? How about next year?? You will not. You only talk about a meaningless negative. It means LITTLE.

18-0??? You really are in denial.
 

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Maybe he forgot this

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Every owner in the NFL is trying to sweep this thing under the rug because a widespread cheating problem would be bad for the bottom line - and that is the only thing these business men care about...duh
 

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The people saying the taping doesn't help win game is out of their minds. They were taping the play signals and deciphering what defense was being run. Watch the D coordinator call the play, relay the call to the O coordinator, he relays the call to Brady in the huddle. Brady would come to the line knowing exactly what defense was being run and could audible accordingly. This would be a HUUUUUUUGE competitive advantage if this was what was being done - and really, what else would they possibly be using the tape of the D coordinators for?
 

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The people saying the taping doesn't help win game is out of their minds. They were taping the play signals and deciphering what defense was being run. Watch the D coordinator call the play, relay the call to the O coordinator, he relays the call to Brady in the huddle. Brady would come to the line knowing exactly what defense was being run and could audible accordingly. This would be a HUUUUUUUGE competitive advantage if this was what was being done - and really, what else would they possibly be using the tape of the D coordinators for?

Why would anyone think that a coach, with such high moral integrity, would even think to use that type of information to cheat during the game???
 

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The people saying the taping doesn't help win game is out of their minds. They were taping the play signals and deciphering what defense was being run. Watch the D coordinator call the play, relay the call to the O coordinator, he relays the call to Brady in the huddle. Brady would come to the line knowing exactly what defense was being run and could audible accordingly. This would be a HUUUUUUUGE competitive advantage if this was what was being done - and really, what else would they possibly be using the tape of the D coordinators for?


This is impossible to happen. Do you know anything about football and how it is run. WHen Pats were 18-0 this year what did they use? That is not happening and far fetched for a variety of common sense reasons. Belichik and all coaches work over 100 hours a week. They look for every edge alive. Not saying they are totally perfect or have not stolen a few signals but that goes on everywhere. Teams know that and adjust in case and because you have too. Forget the nonsense stealing down ,we know your play nonsense. Dick Vermail was laughing at the suggestion it is so absurd that this helped the pats. HE KNOWS and so do not many others. Patriots are great because we have the best players and coaches. Stop the hate.
 

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What else would they use the filming of the opposing teams D coordinators for? Surely it wasn't for their amusement
 

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Why would anyone think that a coach, with such high moral integrity, would even think to use that type of information to cheat during the game???
high moral integrity?? im laughin so hard i'll probably need some more pajamas!! L O L
 

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What else would they use the filming of the opposing teams D coordinators for? Surely it wasn't for their amusement


Poker king, with all due respect, you might know poker but you do not know football. At least this topic. A lot goes on in football and al ot of stealing signals and filming and all that. REGARDLESS,. that does not effect winning and losing. THere is noo much involved and it isn't realistic. Patriots went 18-0 this year. Stick with poker or whatever it is you do because you have no clue on this topic. This is the most overblown thing I have ever seen in my life.
 
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What else would they use the filming of the opposing teams D coordinators for? Surely it wasn't for their amusement

No need to film anything. Any team can get someone with a good memory
to watch the other team's signals at every game the other team plays
and relay this info to the coach. Maybe they are all "cheating".
 

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P lot goes on in football and al ot of stealing signals and filming and all that. REGARDLESS,. that does not effect winning and losing. THere is noo much involved and it isn't realistic. Patriots went 18-0 this year.

Are all pats fans this delusional? 18-0? Are you still waiting for that annoying 6 week bye, between the AFC Championship game and the Superbowl, to finally end?
 

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Poker king, with all due respect, you might know poker but you do not know football. At least this topic. A lot goes on in football and al ot of stealing signals and filming and all that. REGARDLESS,. that does not effect winning and losing. THere is noo much involved and it isn't realistic. Patriots went 18-0 this year. Stick with poker or whatever it is you do because you have no clue on this topic. This is the most overblown thing I have ever seen in my life.

I like how you say "with all due respect", and then disrespect me. But you still didn't answer my question - what else would they be filming the defensive signals for? And if you don't think the QB knowing what D is going to be run before the play would affect winning and losing then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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The people saying the taping doesn't help win game is out of their minds. They were taping the play signals and deciphering what defense was being run. Watch the D coordinator call the play, relay the call to the O coordinator, he relays the call to Brady in the huddle. Brady would come to the line knowing exactly what defense was being run and could audible accordingly. This would be a HUUUUUUUGE competitive advantage if this was what was being done - and really, what else would they possibly be using the tape of the D coordinators for?

No advantage if teams change their signals. In fact the plan could
backfire if they do, and you think you know what they're doing when
you don't.
 

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Are all pats fans this delusional? 18-0? Are you still waiting for that annoying 6 week bye, between the AFC Championship game and the Superbowl, to finally end?

What is delusional HATER about 18-0 this past year and three Super Bowl victories this past decade??? Tell Hater PLEASE??
 

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I like how you say "with all due respect", and then disrespect me. But you still didn't answer my question - what else would they be filming the defensive signals for? And if you don't think the QB knowing what D is going to be run before the play would affect winning and losing then I don't know what to tell you.


Jim, I am trying to be nice. You have no clue at all. None. Zero. Many many coaches past and present have laughed this off becausee IT DOES NOT HELP YOU WIN. As far as why he does it, look Belichick (and manymany other coaches) do all sorts of things that you cannot figure out..they work 100+ hours a week and quite rankly are not well adjusted people. Example..they totaly distort the mandatory injury list every week that has to be reported to the league. The pAts have put Tom Brady on the list every week for a couple of years. He has not missed a game. When asked about obvious things (not hidden or unknown things OBVIOUS THINGS) Belichick gives ridiculous answers. WHo knows why and who cares. It is a tough busines. I could go no to many other things but that is off base. Fact is this is not what wins games...Many other teams do it too and you have no clue (as do many others here too, don't feel bad)...put your thoughts on the next Poker world series or something more you know about. I would not talk about Poker Jim, because I have no clue on that so I would keep my mouth shut. Some haters here should so the same about the patriots
 

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No advantage if teams change their signals. In fact the plan could
backfire if they do, and you think you know what they're doing when
you don't.


Right. Teams change their signals all the time. They have too. This topic is such a joke it is unreal. Haters can really get motivated to carry their emotion a long way.
 

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