`````MoneyBookers.com`````` has anyone used them to send money to books?

IntuitionBET · Jul 12, 2003

Has anyone here at the Rx used them for Sportsbooks or Casino deposits?

They are located in the UK and the fees they have posted on their site seem competitive.
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They state:

moneybookers enables any business or consumer with an email address to securely and cost-effectively send and receive payments online – in real-time!

Use moneybookers to:

Send money via email from your credit card or bank account

Make online purchases

Collect money via email
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How do we collect money by email

www.moneybookers.com

[This message was edited by Intuition BET on July 13, 2003 at 05:59 PM.]

Phaedrus · Jul 12, 2003

I have used them for sportsbooks and many other purposes almost since the day they opened, with nothing but satifaction. Moneybookers beats PPATM, Neteller, Firepay and WU hands-down.

Phaedrus

FireBad · Jul 12, 2003

There limits are ridiculously low.

oilman · Jul 12, 2003

What books actually accept Moneybookers?

Ninja · Jul 12, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fire Bad:
There limits are ridiculously low.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So what are the limits. What about fees?

Phaedrus · Jul 12, 2003

Actually, the limit is one of Moneybookers' short points ... 15,000 Euro per quarter. However, by opting for the lower limit they are able to practice much better privacy protection for their customers, as it keeps them below the next tier in FSA regulations.

However, point conceded -- if you are a big roller, Moneybookers may not be for you.

Phaedrus

oilman · Jul 12, 2003

Bump to which books offer this?

Halifax · Jul 12, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by oilman:
Bump to which books offer this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not many:

Gamebookers (Antigua/UK/Austria)
Betfair (UK betting exchange)
Pointbet (Asian)
Jokerbets (Austrian)
Fonbet (Russian)

.. and a couple more I can't think of at the moment.

oilman · Jul 12, 2003

Thanks Halifax. What do you think of gamebookers?

JackDee · Jul 12, 2003

gamebookers are fine, huge juice on many sports, except soccer moneylines, but a great book, great customer service, pays promptly, great interface, just great.

as far as moneybookers, i dont like em at all, lying scumbags, they tell you they charge something like 5 euros for a money transfer to your bank, and then they charge 25 euros or more on top of that for bank transfers and say well that was not actualy us that charged you, the banks involved did. Fvcking scammers.

oilman · Jul 13, 2003

Thanks Jack, very interesting. I checked out gamebookers website, very slick. Your right though, the juice on the baseball lines is quite steep.

lakerfan · Jul 13, 2003

Used them to withdraw from gamebookers. Didn't think a lot of the system. But I would use again if I had to.

IntuitionBET · Jul 13, 2003

lakerfan - what did they charge you for the withdrawl?

Did they tack on an extra fee as JackDee posted above?

Phaedrus · Jul 13, 2003

Jack, why do you call them 'fvcking scammers?' You asked what the deal was, they told you. Did you follow up with the bank? Did you folow up with MB? I have a feeling the answer is 'no.' You just love to bitch. If MB did take an extra fee off of you, and the bank can confrim that, I am certain that you would get it back. The only time I have ever had a balance problem with MB it took all of about three e-mails to correct, and I got an unsolicited apology to boot.

Lazy people cast accusations when they have to go through more than one step to get a lousy fvcking $ 25.00 . Like you've never made an error in your life.

You've really been sliding lately; you used to bring something to the table here but all I ever see come out of you the last couple of months is bile and derision. Not that it's any of my business, but whatever it is that's got you so down lately, I hope it passes over soon. I miss the old JackDee.

Phaedrus

Halifax · Sep 2, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by oilman:
Bump to which books offer this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A couple more:

BetClass.net

BetAustralia (unknown to me until BTJ broke the news a few days back)

Fishhead · Sep 2, 2003

This is something we all need to take a closer look at. Lets all try and learn what we can about Moneybookers.com

VG789 · Sep 2, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JackDee:
as far as moneybookers, i dont like em at all, lying scumbags, they tell you they charge something like 5 euros for a money transfer to your bank, and then they charge 25 euros or more on top of that for bank transfers and say well that was not actualy us that charged you, the banks involved did. Fvcking scammers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

JackDee,I have plenty of bad experiences with moneybookers,I dont reccoment them at all but they always pay,I would describe them as amateurs,and surely not the safest place of the earth to send money.
As for the 25$,they ve probably given you the right answer,some banks have set rediculous charges for this kind of transfers.

Sodium Pentethol V · Sep 3, 2003

Never had a problem with either moneybookers or gamebookers, have used both for close to a year now.

ataraxa · Sep 3, 2003

JackDee wrote "..........surely not the safest place of the earth to send money"

Actually, Moneybookers probably IS the safest place to send money.

Separate client accounts and serious SFA supervision mean thay always have all your funds

available at all times:

"requirements & liquidity — Our business is required to maintain minimum levels of capital. There is an initial and continuous threshold of € 1 million own funds (approx £615, 000). We must also hold sufficiently liquid assets to be able to redeem all e-money issued and to meet our working capital requirements."

Beats your local bank.

IntuitionBET · Sep 4, 2003

They seem to be an OK company as I am trying them with small amounts ($500) to see how well they handle transactions...so far so good.

Not all books accept MoneyBookers but they are an alterative we need to explore as there becomes less and less payment solutions out there that I TRUST.

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