MLB -1 run lines

[187Sports]

Does anyone know what US sportsbooks offer the -1 run lines? I know pinnacle offers them, but they don't accept US players, and none of the casinos in Vegas have them. Thanks

 

[Bourn]

I know 5dimes does. I would think most of the better ones do. Heritage, Bookmker. It's a good bet.

 

[EXpress]

Bet 66% of your unit on moneline AND 33% of the unit on -1.5 run line, which will make it effectively -1 run line

 

[187Sports]

I know 5dimes does. I would think most of the better ones do. Heritage, Bookmker. It's a good bet.

Thanks for the info. I contacted Heritage earlier, the rep said they don't have them, but he seemed unsure.

 

[Keef]

Does anyone know what US sportsbooks offer the -1 run lines? I know pinnacle offers them, but they don't accept US players, and none of the casinos in Vegas have them. Thanks

Essentially all books do.

You can manufacturer a -1 line by making two bets:

play the money line (bet 1) and then lay the expected win amount on the -1.5 run line (bet 2)

if if your team wins by 1, you push just like a -1 bet.

if your team wins by 2, you win just as you would a -1 bet.

if your team loses, you lose just as you would a -1 bet.

 

[187Sports]

Bet 66% of your unit on moneline AND 33% of the unit on -1.5 run line, which will make it effectively -1 run line

Thanks for the info.

 

[187Sports]

Essentially all books do.

You can manufacturer a -1 line by making two bets:

play the money line (bet 1) and then lay the expected win amount on the -1.5 run line (bet 2)

if if your team wins by 1, you push just like a -1 bet.

if your team wins by 2, you win just as you would a -1 bet.

if your team loses, you lose just as you would a -1 bet.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Bourn]

Essentially all books do.

You can manufacturer a -1 line by making two bets:

play the money line (bet 1) and then lay the expected win amount on the -1.5 run line (bet 2)

if if your team wins by 1, you push just like a -1 bet.

if your team wins by 2, you win just as you would a -1 bet.

if your team loses, you lose just as you would a -1 bet.

So for example you play Boston MlL and -1.5. If other team wins you lose 2 bets instead of 1. Doesn't seem like a good way to do it to me.

 

[EXpress]

So for example you play Boston MlL and -1.5. If other team wins you lose 2 bets instead of 1. Doesn't seem like a good way to do it to me.

You misunderstood.
2 bets are not equal amounts, but approx. 60% and 30% of a unit

 

[Bourn]

You misunderstood.
2 bets are not equal amounts, but approx. 60% and 30% of a unit

Oh I see

 

[Keef]

So for example you play Boston MlL and -1.5. If other team wins you lose 2 bets instead of 1. Doesn't seem like a good way to do it to me.

Same team.

play Dodgers -150 money line: risk 150 to win 100

play dodgers -1.5 +120 for 100.

essentially you are betting 250 to win 220 or about -114.

 

[Keef]

It is wise to compare the listed -1 line with the manufactured line. Often times they are different.

 

[187Sports]

So for example you play Boston MlL and -1.5. If other team wins you lose 2 bets instead of 1. Doesn't seem like a good way to do it to me.

I was thinking the same thing, but it makes more sense when you use this calculator: http://zcodesystem.com/runline_calc/

 

[Keef]

I was thinking the same thing, but it makes more sense when you use this calculator: http://zcodesystem.com/runline_calc/

You would lose on the -1 just as.

Its a a mathematical equation. You are betting the same team, just proportionate amounts divided on the money line and run line.

Sometime the listed -1 is a better price, sometimes not.

It it is worth understanding if you play -1's.

 

[Mac]

You would lose on the -1 just as.

Its a a mathematical equation. You are betting the same team, just proportionate amounts divided on the money line and run line.

Sometime the listed -1 is a better price, sometimes not.

It it is worth understanding if you play -1's.

the calculator takes the different prices into account. Just doing a percentage split does not, because as you said, prices vary.

 

[RenoChazz]

Baseball is one of the few sports that's reduced juice everywhere. When you bet -1 -1.5 ect, you are paying 20 cents, or adding at least adding 20 cents when you split up the bet to make the -1/+1 line. Why would anyone do this? Do gamblers hate money?

 

[Bourn]

Baseball is one of the few sports that's reduced juice everywhere. When you bet -1 -1.5 ect, you are paying 20 cents, or adding at least adding 20 cents when you split up the bet to make the -1/+1 line. Why would anyone do this? Do gamblers hate money?

I play -1 or RL because i would never lay -220 on a play. -1 plays push if they win by 1. I like the bet in certain situations. We should do an experiment. You play reduced juice lines and I'll play -1 lines for a month and see what happens.

 

[Keef]

Baseball is one of the few sports that's reduced juice everywhere. When you bet -1 -1.5 ect, you are paying 20 cents, or adding at least adding 20 cents when you split up the bet to make the -1/+1 line. Why would anyone do this? Do gamblers hate money?

A) like the original poster eluded to, he doesn't have a -1 out

b) the manufactured -1 is sometimes better than the offered -1.

 

[RenoChazz]

I play -1 or RL because i would never lay -220 on a play. -1 plays push if they win by 1. I like the bet in certain situations. We should do an experiment. You play reduced juice lines and I'll play -1 lines for a month and see what happens.

That is one of few exceptions. On -220 games you're no longer getting reduced juice usually, and very often you're paying 40 cents and even higher, so laying 20 cents on the -1.5 would be the correct move.

As for your second sentence they're correlated that is a fact, so over 1000's of plays paying less vig, on correlated edge, the opne paying less vig, will come out on top.

 

[RenoChazz]

A) like the original poster eluded to, he doesn't have a -1 out

b) the manufactured -1 is sometimes better than the offered -1.

The manufactured one is sometimes/probably most of the time better because the portion you put on the moneyline is often reduced vigorish. Plus you can line shop, that doesn't change that putting it all on the reduced vig number or best number is the right move over splitting them up.