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Vikings over or under 9 wins in '08?

  • OVER 9 wins

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • UNDER 9 wins

    Votes: 8 53.3%

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my team......alas i see 9-7 at best......8-8 possible
 

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Think 9 is right on, Vikings fan as well. Voted for the over. If Jackson can be just average at qb this year, the Vikings can win 10 in my opinion. With no good qb and average receivers, teams will keep putting 8 in the box and make Jackson beat them.
 

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Them and GB, overs.

Bears lucky to get 6 wins now. Lions will be the Lions.
 

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Going over just on the principal that they are going to win the division, but the fact is that they could win this division at 8-8 or 9-7 this season...
 

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I have them winning no more than 7 games.


I don't see it.. Adrian Peterson, Matt Birk, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper. Seven players at least who are all but locks to make the Pro Bowl, and each one of them can be argued to be the top 3-4 in the NFL at their given position. Too much talent to not make the playoffs, and Tarvaris won't prevent them with a team like that.
 

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I don't see it.. Adrian Peterson, Matt Birk, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper. Seven players at least who are all but locks to make the Pro Bowl, and each one of them can be argued to be the top 3-4 in the NFL at their given position. Too much talent to not make the playoffs, and Tarvaris won't prevent them with a team like that.

That's my heart speaking, as I hope they don't win a freaking game all year.


Having said that, I actually don't dislike their organization as much as in years past.
 

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I don't see a 9-5 finish here:

Slumping Vikings turn to Frerotte at QB



By Times wires

Published Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:46 PM
<HR noShade SIZE=1>EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. — After losing the first two games, coach Brad Childress decided the Vikings can no longer afford to let 25-year-old quarterback Tarvaris Jackson learn on the job. Wednesday, he turned to 15-year veteran Gus Frerotte to run the offense.
"I'm just not seeing right now the aggressiveness from Tarvaris that I saw throughout the offseason, training camp, the two preseason games that he played in," Childress said. "And part of it may be experience. I know Gus will give us that."
Jackson completed 51 percent of his passes this season. He threw a game-ending interception in a loss to the Packers and was partly responsible for the offense settling for five field goals in an 18-15 loss to the Colts.
"I know there's many other plays, there's a lot of other people that have to step up," Childress said. "But then when you go back through and look at the tape, and most importantly be able to sit across from the young man and want to be able to verify what you're feeling, it's kind of like looking in your kids' eyes and saying one (thing) and feeling another."
Frerotte, 37, was signed in the offseason to back up Jackson.
 

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Schedule gives Vikings hope, if 1-3 doesn't become 1-4

Jeff Wheeler, Mct
Quarterback Gus Frerotte was helped to his feet after taking a hit in the fourth quarter Sunday.

Coach Brad Childress sees upcoming NFC games — beginning Monday night at New Orleans — as a chance for his team to turn around their 1-3 season.
By JUDD ZULGAD, Star Tribune
Last update: September 29, 2008 - 11:56 PM

A mistake-filled loss Sunday at Tennessee left the Vikings with a 1-3 record for the second consecutive season and in dire need of a victory Monday night in New Orleans.
What the loss did not do was cause the Vikings to question whether there still is time to make a run at a postseason berth. Playing in what is shaping up to be an incredibly mediocre division, the Vikings are only one game behind NFC North-leading Chicago and Green Bay (both 2-2). Minnesota holds a half-game lead on Detroit (0-3).
"With the three NFC games [against the Saints, Lions and Bears] coming up, it's easy for me to say it's not how you start it's how you finish," Vikings coach Brad Childress said Monday. "But it is how you finish and what you learn as you go and how you continue to improve."
Childress can't be blamed for maintaining a positive outlook as he faces a situation similar to 2007. Things actually seemed worse a year ago when the Vikings won only one of their first four and dropped three games behind the Packers.
The Vikings were 3-6 following an embarrassing 34-0 loss on Nov. 11 at Green Bay but rebounded to win five in a row and were in playoff contention before losing their final two regular-season games.
Management believed spending big money in the offseason on Pro Bowl defensive end Jared Allen, receiver Bernard Berrian and safety Madieu Williams, who has yet to play because of a neck injury, would help to avoid another disappointing start. That hasn't been the case.
Monday's game against the Saints will begin a three-game stretch for the Vikings leading into their bye on Oct. 26. Minnesota will play at New Orleans (2-2) and Chicago with a home game against the Lions in between.
History indicates that even playing in a weak division might not be enough to save the Vikings if they lose to the Saints. According to STATS Inc., only nine of 173 teams -- 5.2 percent -- have qualified for the playoffs after a 1-4 start.
 

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My Team, Love The Vikes, Hate Childress

The way this thing is going now I believe he's lost the team, or will soon. They do get "Big Mac" back this wk, but if Ziggy or whatever his friggen name is sticks w/this asshole (and he will), IMO 6-10 is where we'll end up. Starting to think Allen may have been a 1 yr wonder. Our D line is NOT getting the push I thought it would. I'd like to see the kid from Tx Robison get more time. Sharper isn't getting any younger either. Hope I'm wrong. But I have this sinking feeling that disaster is about to strike my "Purple Gang".
 

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After 0-2 and 1-3 they may have righted the ship. Thank goodness Jackson isn't driving it anymore. they are now the FAV to win the NFC North:

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7-5 but have to go without a few players:



Vikes' wall of shame

Suspensions of Williams DT duo opens division door for Bears


December 3, 2008
<!-- Article By Line -->BY MIKE MULLIGAN Staff Reporter
<!-- Article's First Paragraph --><!-- BlogBurst ContentStart -->Two days after the Bears lost in Minnesota and fell out of first place in the NFC North, the NFL presented them with yet another possible path to the playoffs by suspending six players for the remainder of the season, including the Vikings' pair of Pro Bowl defensive tackles, Pat and Kevin Williams.<!--dropend-->
Also suspended for violating the league's policy on steroids and other banned substances were New Orleans Saints running back Deuce McAllister and defensive linemen Charles Grant and Will Smith, and Houston Texans long snapper Bryan Pittman. A seventh player, Atlanta's Grady Jackson, reportedly was not among the suspended because the league is seeking additional information from him.
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NFL suspending six players for the remainder of the season, including the Vikings' pair of Pro Bowl defensive tackle, Kevin Williams (upper left). Also suspended for violating the league's policy on steroids and other banned substances were New Orleans Saints running back Deuce McAllister (bottom right) and defensive linemen Charles Grant (bottom left) and Will Smith (upper right).
(AP)


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Season over for Burress
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<!-- BlogBurst ContentStart -->Given that New Orleans and Houston are among the Bears' final four opponents, the NFL's ruling couldn't have been more favorable to Lovie Smith's 6-6 team.
How will the Vikings respond to losing two key figures in their No. 2-ranked run defense? The Vikings said in a statement they are ''very disappointed'' in the ruling. There were multiple reports that both Vikings players and perhaps some of the others were planning to file a motion in federal court this morning to put off the suspension. A league source said that would be a major problem for NFL owners, who would expect Vikings owner Zygi Wilf to prevent the players from taking such action to preserve the authority of commissioner Roger Goodell.
Owner's ego in the way
Wilf was described by one source as a relatively new owner who was letting his ego about the success of his team get in the way of his responsibility to other owners and the league itself.
''There is a collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association to handle such matters,'' the source said. ''The idea of a lawsuit is outrageous. This isn't the NCAA.''
In a news release announcing the suspensions, the league emphasized that the league's policy on steroids and other banned substances ''does not set forth an obligation to issue specific warning about specific products.''
The league went so far as to reprint a key section of the policy in its release:
''You and you alone are responsible for what goes into your body. Claiming that you used only legally available nutritional supplements will not help you in an appeal. ... Even if they are bought over-the-counter from a known establishment, there is currently no way to be sure that they contain the ingredients listed on the packaging or have not been tainted with prohibited substances. ...
''If you take these products, you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK! For your own health and success in the league, we strongly encourage you to avoid the use of supplements altogether, or at the very least to be extremely careful about what you choose to take.''
The league also says it sent two warnings about StarCaps in December 2006 -- one to team presidents, general managers and head athletic trainers and another to NFLPA executive Stacy Robinson, who is charged with watching over the policy for the union.
If the suspensions are honored, the Bears' path to the playoffs gets significantly easier. The Bears most likely have to win out and have the Vikings lose two of their final four games to win the division. If the teams finish tied, the tiebreaker system would favor Minnesota because the Vikings have a better conference record and beat Carolina among common opponents.
Lions hold key
Of course, without the ''Williams Wall,'' the Vikings are no sure bet to beat winless Detroit at Ford Field on Sunday. If the Lions can upset Minnesota and the Bears take care of business when they play Green Bay, the Bears would finish with a better division record and therefore win the tiebreaker.
There is no telling just how damaged the Vikings will be without two Pro Bowl players at defensive tackle. Each had seven tackles against the Bears to help key Sunday night's 34-14 victory. Pat Williams also had a pass defense and Kevin added two tackles for loss and quarterback hits. He also used a pile-driver move on Kyle Orton that shook the quarterback up, although the sack was erased by an encroachment penalty.
In place of the Williams Wall, the Vikings would start eight-year veteran Ellis Wyms, who did not record a tackle against the Bears, and third-year man Fred Evans, a former Morgan Park star, who has 16 career tackles after notching two stops against the Bears.
The Vikings' final three opponents all have winning records, with Atlanta and the New York Giants boasting two of the best running games in the NFL.
Mike Mulligan and Sun-Times colleague Brian Hanley host a sports-talk show from 5 to 10 a.m. Monday through Friday on WSCR-AM (670).
KEVIN WILLIAMS, Vikings
PAT WILLIAMS, Vikings
BRYAN PITTMAN, Texans
DEUC E MCALLISTER, Saints
CHARLES GRANT, Saints
WILL SMITH, Saints
 

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