Minnesota 79 year old man loses 38,000 online blackjack..

[WVU]

WVU, why do you back the books when theres story after story of people losing there asses off to this. Do these books have software that says they have to pay out a certain amount, etc.

I have played many millions of hands of blackjack online. Most of these hands were through the use of a bot. Every card was recorded and analyzed. I tested dealer down card, dealer up card, player dealt cards, hit cards, etc every way imaginable. I compared card frequencies and dealer and player BJ frequencies. Every major software platform passed the test to at least 99% confidence levels. The data does not lie. You will always hear stories of rigged games and sessions, but unless you know, you don't know. I can assure you that I know.

I would not have been as successful doing what I was doing for all those years if the game RNGs did not operate randomly. You would be surprised to know how accurate my profits were to the expected value. My spreadsheet profits were almost always within 1/10 of 1% of where they should be given the house edge of the game by year's end.

 

[tgbn]

I have played many millions of hands of blackjack online. Most of these hands were through the use of a bot. Every card was recorded and analyzed. I tested dealer down card, dealer up card, player dealt cards, hit cards, etc every way imaginable. I compared card frequencies and dealer and player BJ frequencies. Every major software platform passed the test to at least 99% confidence levels. The data does not lie. You will always hear stories of rigged games and sessions, but unless you know, you don't know. I can assure you that I know.

I would not have been as successful doing what I was doing for all those years if the game RNGs did not operate randomly. You would be surprised to know how accurate my profits were to the expected value. My spreadsheet profits were almost always within 1/10 of 1% of where they should be given the house edge of the game by year's end.

Prove it.

 

[Doug]

I haven't played much of it, but I believe some of it is rigged, at times. There are a lot of online casinos that might try it.

 

[WVU]

Prove it.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...atical-proof-english-harbour-cheating-36.html

While I am not going to prove that most online casinos are fair, I will show you a thread where I helped to prove that a fairly large outfit was cheating. They were publicly caught and the excuse given was comical and did not hold water. I was refunded much of what I lost in a closed door agreement with the software owner. I agreed to a gag order so I cannot reveal too much. Good luck getting through this classic thread.

 

[Doug]

Minnetonka man loses his shirt playing online blackjack.. Supposedly the guy lost 21 hands in a row......was betting $100 a hand but only won 14 hands out of 300..Is this possible??? Then started betting $300 a hand and was winning at a 11% clip.....I always knew online blackjack was totally rigged.. So how do these places get away with it....

Is there a source for this ?

I still don't see how a guy from the states managed to move that much, or did he just happen to have it there already, and go on tilt ?

Not very many people that age even use computers, in particular to gamble.

 

[tgbn]

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...atical-proof-english-harbour-cheating-36.html

While I am not going to prove that most online casinos are fair, I will show you a thread where I helped to prove that a fairly large outfit was cheating. They were publicly caught and the excuse given was comical and did not hold water. I was refunded much of what I lost in a closed door agreement with the software owner. I agreed to a gag order so I cannot reveal too much. Good luck getting through this classic thread.

None of this proves what you said.


Prove it.

 

[WVU]

None of this proves what you said.


Prove it.

who the fuck are you? I know what I know and it isn't based on heresay. I am retired from the business. If you want proof, gather your own. read the thread I linked above if you want to fuel the idea that cheating is rampant.

 

[gtc08]

I'm from MN and haven't read about it or heard about it from Pioneer press or star tribune. I'm also wondering where he got this.

 

[ElJefe]

Online blackjack is very streaky. It does not have to be rigged for anyone to lose money on it - no matter how big the bet size or whatever. The house edge itself is enough. When you play online, the action goes fast and it can be a lot streakier than what you would find in a land based casino. There is a new shuffle every hand and it's multiple decks. That means you or the dealer could easily get 3 blackjacks in a row. You can win or lose 12 hands in a row at any point. Or you can have things happen like a nine card 19. Be ready for wild and fast action if you play for any length of time. Only way to win is like anything else - you have to bail out at the right time when you are ahead.

 

[tgbn]

who the fuck are you? I know what I know and it isn't based on heresay. I am retired from the business. If you want proof, gather your own. read the thread I linked above if you want to fuel the idea that cheating is rampant.

You said:

If it was so definitely rigged wouldn't we have PROOF such as play logs? There are many claims of being rigged but rarely any PROOF. 95% of all online casinos are legit. There have been exceptions over the years, but most casinos using a major sotware platform are legit.

Then again:

post some PROOF or should we just take your word on it?

How is it others have to provide you with proof but never the other way around?
Have you got some kind of special exemption allowing you to ask proofs to others but never having to provide any when asked ?

How come?

You're a retired expert ?

I can find you thirteen experts a dozen on gambling forums.


You said;

I have played many millions of hands of blackjack online. You would be surprised to know how accurate my profits were to the expected value. My spreadsheet profits were almost always within 1/10 of 1% of where they should be

P-R-O-V-E IT.

 

[gtc08]

I don't think WVU can proof it.

 

[winbet]

I thought Fishdead had sold up and moved to europe in search of the Holy Banana, but alas it seems he headed up north to Minny. Still when you think about it, $38k is a good price for a Caravan. :drink:

 

[fucnluc]

Here's the thing. WVU doesn't have to prove a god damn thing. He didn't start this thread or start hammering that online blackjack was rigged. If you're going to make an accusation that it's rigged then you should "P-R-O-V-E I-T" not tell other people to come up with an argument that it isn't when you don't have an argument to begin with.

What is it kindergarten in this thread?

 

[WVU]

thanks fucnluc. I have nothing to gain by releasing my logs. If you could prove a casino was cheating then you would have plenty to gain if you had the logs to prove it.

 

[fivestarjake]

Here's the thing. WVU doesn't have to prove a god damn thing. He didn't start this thread or start hammering that online blackjack was rigged. If you're going to make an accusation that it's rigged then you should "P-R-O-V-E I-T" not tell other people to come up with an argument that it isn't when you don't have an argument to begin with.

What is it kindergarten in this thread?

you been on this site since 2004 and just realized we are all kindergartners?:lol:

 

[levistep]

Here's the thing. WVU doesn't have to prove a god damn thing. He didn't start this thread or start hammering that online blackjack was rigged. If you're going to make an accusation that it's rigged then you should "P-R-O-V-E I-T" not tell other people to come up with an argument that it isn't when you don't have an argument to begin with.

What is it kindergarten in this thread?

Damn right. the burden of the proof is on the accuser. The people in the poli sci forum try and pull this same shit on me. The nutjob who makes a claim is the one who is supposed to support it.

 

[tgbn]

The nutjobs are the ones saying online casinos are fair. So they have to prove it.

 

[WVU]

This nutjob does not have to get up and go to work. Do you?

 

[Brooklynbomber]

online casinos employ software to counter progressive betting strategies.

people who are chasing get caught up in this web.

do not double up your bets and you should be fine....although in the end BJ impossible to beat over the long haul.

 

[gtc08]

Blackjack is the most boring game to play vs. the computer. If I ever played it would be with a group of people.