<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Unabomber, it would help if you understood the rule like the umpire did before you question his call. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The ump threw up his hands and the runner stopped as a result. What don't I understand?
The ump threw up his hands and the runner stopped as a result. What don't I understand?
The ump never threw his hands up, he pointed out the obstruction. The runner then must continue the play and then the ump will determine weather or not the obstruction would influence the out or safe call at the plate. Tejada gave up and stopped running, when he should have continued at full speed. The ump made the right call and Tejada did not understand the rule. Seriously, all you people should read the rule book(at mlb.com) before commenting on something you do not know.
Here you go:
7.06
When obstruction occurs, the umpire shall call or signal "Obstruction." (a) If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the batter runner is obstructed before he touches first base, the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability to be put out, to the bases they would have reached, in the umpire's judgment, if there had been no obstruction. The obstructed runner shall be awarded at least one base beyond the base he had last legally touched before the obstruction. Any preceding runners, forced to advance by the award of bases as the penalty for obstruction, shall advance without liability to be put out. When a play is being made on an obstructed runner, the umpire shall signal obstruction in the same manner that he calls "Time," with both hands overhead. The ball is immediately dead when this signal is given; however, should a thrown ball be in flight before the obstruction is called by the umpire, the runners are to be awarded such bases on wild throws as they would have been awarded had not obstruction occurred. On a play where a runner was trapped between second and third and obstructed by the third baseman going into third base while the throw is in flight from the shortstop, if such throw goes into the dugout the obstructed runner is to be awarded home base. Any other runners on base in this situation would also be awarded two bases from the base they last legally touched before obstruction was called. (b) If no play is being made on the obstructed runner, the play shall proceed until no further action is possible. The umpire shall then call "Time" and impose such penalties, if any, as in his judgment will nullify the act of obstruction. Under 7.06 (b) when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire's judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call. NOTE: The catcher, without the ball in his possession, has no right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The base line belongs to the runner and the catcher should be there only when he is fielding a ball or when he already has the ball in his hand.
7.06
When obstruction occurs, the umpire shall call or signal "Obstruction." (a) If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the batter runner is obstructed before he touches first base, the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability to be put out, to the bases they would have reached, in the umpire's judgment, if there had been no obstruction. The obstructed runner shall be awarded at least one base beyond the base he had last legally touched before the obstruction. Any preceding runners, forced to advance by the award of bases as the penalty for obstruction, shall advance without liability to be put out. When a play is being made on an obstructed runner, the umpire shall signal obstruction in the same manner that he calls "Time," with both hands overhead. The ball is immediately dead when this signal is given; however, should a thrown ball be in flight before the obstruction is called by the umpire, the runners are to be awarded such bases on wild throws as they would have been awarded had not obstruction occurred. On a play where a runner was trapped between second and third and obstructed by the third baseman going into third base while the throw is in flight from the shortstop, if such throw goes into the dugout the obstructed runner is to be awarded home base. Any other runners on base in this situation would also be awarded two bases from the base they last legally touched before obstruction was called. (b) If no play is being made on the obstructed runner, the play shall proceed until no further action is possible. The umpire shall then call "Time" and impose such penalties, if any, as in his judgment will nullify the act of obstruction. Under 7.06 (b) when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire's judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call. NOTE: The catcher, without the ball in his possession, has no right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The base line belongs to the runner and the catcher should be there only when he is fielding a ball or when he already has the ball in his hand.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Under 7.06 (b) when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire's judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Gagne....If you were the ump, IN YOUR JUDGEMENT, would he have scored without the obstruction?????
Gagne....If you were the ump, IN YOUR JUDGEMENT, would he have scored without the obstruction?????
Was not Tejada obstructed after touching 3rd. If so, he should be awarded home. If obstructed before touching 3rd, 2nd was his last legal base, he should be awarded 3rd, and he is on his own going to home. Is this a correct interpretation? Now that I think about it, I think he was obstructed just before third base. Where was the third base coach in all of this; he should have been waving and yelling for Tejada to run.
In any sport, you continue to play until the ref tells you specifically to stop or the whistle blows. I bet the A's and thought that he should have been awarded home plate, but he should have kept running.
Reminds me of the dropped ball in the Marlins/SF series. Conine was just walking to first, he could have been on 2nd if he would have ran the fly ball out. It worked out for him regardless, too bad the A's were not as lucky last night.
Reminds me of the dropped ball in the Marlins/SF series. Conine was just walking to first, he could have been on 2nd if he would have ran the fly ball out. It worked out for him regardless, too bad the A's were not as lucky last night.
The bottom line is the Ump never stopped the play by throwing up his hands, therefore the play continues. Tejada made the mistake of stopping because he did not understand the rule. Pretty simple. Of course he was obstucted at third base that is why the ump pointed it out, but as the rule states the play must continue and Tejada did not.
After seeing Eric Byrnes slide (tumble) into home, limp away, push Varitek because he's a fn p*ss*, then get tagged out - I was happy to see Boston win this one. I hope Boston goes on. Byrnes limped away from home plate but was fine baserunning and in the outfield. When I saw him push Varitek beforehand I wanted to punch Byrnes myself. Pussy!!! Sorry for the language -it's just IMO he pushed Varitek because of his own stupidity and was a sore (no pun intended) loser.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>but as the rule states the play must continue and Tejada did not <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Please quote the rule where it says that.
Also, if he kept going and he's thrown out at the plate, the interference still doesn't matter?????
Please quote the rule where it says that.
Also, if he kept going and he's thrown out at the plate, the interference still doesn't matter?????
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Here you go unabomber:
when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire's judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thank you. And since it's a judgement call, do you think he would have scored if not obstructed??
when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire's judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thank you. And since it's a judgement call, do you think he would have scored if not obstructed??
