"I laugh when people play at SIA, middle the piss out of them and get booted when the win 10-15K, except they don`t win 10-15K because they phucked it all away at pinnacle"
First, I don't laugh at people who choose to gamble, even though the vast majority of them lose short-term, middle-term and long-term, whether or not they will admit it even to themselves. A lot will justify the losses as 'entertainment', like going to casinos, and I myself once did that long ago - until I'd had enough of it.
I'll say based on personal experience that you are making one hell of an assumption about SIA - I can't tell you how many scalps, sides, siddles and middles I hit there before getting the boot. Your assumption is completely wrong concerning that one would get the boot before one could earn very well - it's certainly not like you're going to win 65-70% of your bets there and go out before you can scoop some freebies up (or could, haven't looked there for quite a while).
But, hey, if it's important for you to think that we should all be betting the 'bad' numbers instead of middling them (but not 'bad' enough to be canceled by the book), then one must also assume that by doing so one will make considerably more money at it - which, if that is true, means 2 things: (1) you personally must be doing this and you must have statistics on how often the 'bad' number cashes and (2) you don't mind participating in an activity equally 'bad' as middling, which SPV has officially labelled 'idiotic'. True or false?
Also, if Pinnacle's numbers are the word of almighty God, then it should be a very simple exercise to develop a system where you simply put your money on the side that you think Pinny doesn't want you to. I think I've seen that someone has said they do this - then I'd ask for mathematical validation that they have been successful long-term doing it. Don't know if you're the one, lurker, but if you aren't then your comments would indicate that you certainly think Pinnacle is a whirlpool sucking in the dollars of the middlers, thereby stating that those same bets at Pinnacle win while their sister bets at SIA lose - then why don't you open an account at SIA, find the middles or sides but simply only place the REVERSE bets at Pinnacle? Shouldn't the money then roll in at Pinnacle for you? Best thing of all, you'd never be booted from SIA, in fact you don't even have to join them to see the lines you need to act upon!
Personally, I chuckle from time to time when I read criticisms of middling from people - it's never based on any supposition that you'll lose money doing it but only reducing your 'profits', as if every gambler is sufficiently capable of even winning, much less hitting at a 55% clip, which is what you gain by hitting 5% of middles (we've got the math elsewhere in another topic on that), and far more when you hit 6% (we're talking paying 20 points total, not even talking paying reduced juice). Well, the news here is that the big majority of gamblers never have the luxury of quibbling over profits for any significant period of time, because they lose.
So if people wish to call middlers idiots and castigate them for not gambling or taking the 'bad' numbers SU, BFD - they're not changing the underlying reality of the situation with name-calling.
[This message was edited by Jazz on March 04, 2004 at 09:47 PM.]
