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Anyone else thinks this is nuts??? 19-14 record. Early out of big ten tournament. They beat wisky once, michigan once. Lost to Illinois, Indiana, Northeastern at home. I personally think it's ridiculous and a 9 seed!!???? Not even a play in game????? Jesus.
 

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They lost to Penn State also, they aren't even going to NIT tourney. 9th seed is about Izzo and the teams history, it should be about this season, but isn't.
 

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Mark Hollis - AD at MSU being the chair of the committee probably had some to do with it...BPI was 44 but Syr 30 but Syr couldn't win on the road
 

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9th seed was too high, but no one had them on the bubble. They were safely in after they beat Minnesota. 6 Top 50 RPI wins, #10 SOS, RPI of 48
 

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Imo 5 out of those 6 wins were against big ten opponents. Doesn't say much. Beat minny twice then lost to them in b10 tourney, beat NW, mich, wisky. They lost to psu, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio st, and at home vs northeastern. Beating 5 out of 6 teams that you face twice in a season isn't saying much
 

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They only played NW and Wisc once. Fair point, but then who do you put in ahead of them? Not only above MSU, but you also have to put them above all the other at large seeds that are seeded lower than MSU. Call me biased, but every "expert" had them safely in the tournament, not just skating in. Look here: http://bracketmatrix.com/
 

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Safely in, not on the bubble that is. Damn edit function. Obviously some had them as low as 11
 

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Trust me. I've been scratching my head who to put instead of mich st. So I would have to agree with you there. BUT I think we can both agree that mich st should at least be playing as a play in tue or Wed night.
 

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Trust me. I've been scratching my head who to put instead of mich st. So I would have to agree with you there. BUT I think we can both agree that mich st should at least be playing as a play in tue or Wed night.
If you look at similar teams, most if not all of their top 50 wins were in conference as well. MSU has that Wichita State win at least and their SOS is way better. I couldnt argue if they had put them in as an 11. I thought they were getting a #10 seed. 9 is too high, no argument there. I would still put them ahead of at least USC and 1-2 other teams at quick glance though.
 

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If you look at similar teams, most if not all of their top 50 wins were in conference as well. MSU has that Wichita State win at least and their SOS is way better. I couldnt argue if they had put them in as an 11. I thought they were getting a #10 seed. 9 is too high, no argument there. I would still put them ahead of at least USC and 1-2 other teams at quick glance though.
I dont know. Syracuse has more impressive wins hen MSU. Shit Tcu has better wins
 

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Biggest thing is they also get to play terrible Miami
 

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I dont know. Syracuse has more impressive wins hen MSU. Shit Tcu has better wins
I was comparing them to the at large teams below MSU that made the tournament like USC. Cuse does have more impressive wins than MSU. But their RPI isn't good and their non conference SOS was awful. It's a delicate balance between SOS, RPI, and Wins. Obviously the committee highly values SOS. Look at Vanderbilt. The point is there are a few teams with borderline resumes including some below MSU that made it, that you would have to compare Cuse or another bubble team against before you even got to MSU. It's a weak field for bubble teams.
 

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MSU beat Wichita St, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Northwestern (all tourney teams) so they deserve to be there. Syracuse didn't cause they lost to St John's and Boston College by a combined 48.
 

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Only team that celebrates final fours since 1989 michigan 4 championship games msu 2 championship games izzo is the most overrated coach ever!He can't coach a team that doesn't have a senior that should have went pro the year before [payne, green ,etc etc] he'll be getting on his knees to try and get bridges to stay another year. BEILIEN best coach in state of MICHIGAN
 

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