Miami vs ND.........Get on the train a beat down is coming

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Kelly said there are “no concerns” about the health of redshirt sophomore quarterback Brandon Wimbush or junior running back Josh Adams for the Miami game.

Wimbush has a left-hand contusion from a hit in the Wake Forest game. He returned to play but sat out the final quarter. Adams was sidelined after five carries against the Demon Deacons with an undisclosed injury.

 

[Codebreaker]

VT was never a good match up vs Miami this year, VT has 2 flaws Miami was able to take advantage of just like Clemson. On defense the Mike backer tends to get lost and run to the wrong gaps.. He gets caught up in the wash, he runs to the wrong gap and misses tackles when he gets there. He's not a bad athlete but he's short, stocky and prone to leaving his feet resulting in missing tackles. Clemson's Bryant had a field day in Blacksburg and so did Rosier last week. Against teams with lessor talent at OL, QB, and RB his flaws are less pronounced other defenders can keep him from being exposed in space at critical times.

The second flaw is VT is playing with a safety at boundary corner. He's a very good athlete a big kid who will take your head off given the opportunity. His issue is playing man coverage vs burners he tends to get friendly with his hands and can't play proper technique when he's chasing a 4.4 guy in space.(fails to locate the ball) He is prone to flags and giving up big plays.

A third issue for VT's defense is for some reason Bud Foster is not getting pressure like he used to. He has a experienced defense with a good DL which usually means serious pressure and a lot of sacks and QB hurries. I think Fuente is dialing Foster back a bit I get the feeling he does not want to take the kinds of risks Foster likes to take.

On Offense VT was not a good match up either. Fuente has only one returning WR Philips. Savoy has come on but he a little guy with speed not your typical 6"4 WR Fuente likes. Fuente wants 7 WR's in his system like he had in Memphis. He's been playing with 2-3 the last 2 years. Jackson the QB is a freshman he has played well and played well at Miami. He had a lot of drops but the ball was on target all night. The OC called a good game as usual but could not execute as needed because of the flaws in the OL. Beamers last 2-3 years were ugly on the recruiting trail. Never known for robust offense it was pretty depleted by the time he left. Fuente came on board and inherited a poor OL situation. To his credit and the OL coach Vince Vice they got pretty good production out of what they had. Vice was a part of the Memphis staff Fuente insisted on bringing to Blacksburg. Like the WR situation give Fuente 2-3 years and VT will be stocked at RB, OL, WR and QB.

Vt's OL was going to get dominated by Miami and they were. Miami locked down Cam Philips, pressured Jackson it was that easy. The OL limits VT's running game Miami had no trouble with that either. Miami's defense is not as good as Clemson's but its not far behind.

Just as Miami was a bad match for VT, ND is a bad match for Miami. ND's OL is real and will manhandle Miami in the trenches. ND's QB is smart and can run They have a RB that can force Miami into making bad choices in space. ND has 7 WR's that can run and catch. Miami's defense will be under pressure because ND's OL can dictate their will. Miami will line up in a 5-2 with the corners playing man and a safety in the middle of the field. That's who Miami is and has been for 30 years. Miami expects to have better talent on defense and they did in the 80's not so much since then. They are good today but far from the days of Ray Lewis and Ed Read.

Of course the all mighty turnover chain can rear its ugly head and force ND into 5 turnovers and this game is close. Short of the magical chain ND can dictate it's will on Miami's defense in this game. That usually results in a WIN. Knowing how despite ND is to regain it's luster I'll bet some Priest performs an Excorsism that chain's voodoo. w-thumbs!^

 

[exploited17]

Someone plaease put a poll up and if you have info on how much is being bet on each team so far. I have yet to see ANYONE who likes Miami

 

[AlistairCookie]

I've won with Dame a few times this year myself...their running game is impressive no doubt... But they're a one dimensional offense.... A good game plan with talents can beat them.
They will be blown out if they play against Bama, Georgia, Clemson...in that order

This is an interesting certitude to proclaim seeing as how Georgia has already played them and that didn’t happen. Up to now, neither team has been tested except by each other, and both teams have been blowing everyone else out of the water. Both have given up a ton of points to a team they shouldn’t have.

On a neutral field, I’d take Alabama and Georgia, but not Clemson and I’d take 20 points on ND against all three of them.

 

[PeePee]

This is an interesting certitude to proclaim seeing as how Georgia has already played them and that didn’t happen. Up to now, neither team has been tested except by each other, and both teams have been blowing everyone else out of the water. Both have given up a ton of points to a team they shouldn’t have.

On a neutral field, I’d take Alabama and Georgia, but not Clemson and I’d take 20 points on ND against all three of them.

Don't forget it was week 2 and since then Goergia improved leaps and bounds to take over the number one spot....of course Vegas not going to set and double digits dog for Dame which is a public darling right now. Probably 3-7.... And Clemson maybe a reach due to inconsistent qb... But just a personal obesevation.

 

[AlistairCookie]

Not trying to be a smart ass, but why wouldn’t this apply to ND as well:

Don’t forget that it was week 2 and since then Notre Dame has improved leaps and bounds...

I don’t think Vegas would make them three touchdown favorites either, that comment was simply to say I would bet against a blowout at -110

 

[tmader7]

Tmader will have the winner for everyone

Ya know something, you're actually starting to irritate me and it really takes a lot to do that. Leave me the hell out of your posts and stay out of my threads and I think we'll be OK.

~T~

 

[PeePee]

Not trying to be a smart ass, but why wouldn’t this apply to ND as well:

Don’t forget that it was week 2 and since then Notre Dame has improved leaps and bounds...

I don’t think Vegas would make them three touchdown favorites either, that comment was simply to say I would bet against a blowout at -110

Because I don't compare ranking... I compare stats... and ND will not be able to hang with the big dogs imo... I'll leave it at that.

 

[tmader7]

Because I don't compare ranking... I compare stats... and ND will not be able to hang with the big dogs imo... I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, just checked the numbers, they're the anomaly in the first 4, D is 49th in the nation. It's crazy they've run the race as far as they have with that kind of D, and they have an easier path out the door than the others. WOW!

~T~

 

[AlistairCookie]

Because I don't compare ranking... I compare stats... and ND will not be able to hang with the big dogs imo... I'll leave it at that.

This doesn’t really answer the question of why you say Georgia has improved by leaps and bounds but Notre Dame hasn’t. If you’ve got stats to back that up, then I’m happy to hear them but just saying it doesn’t make it true.

~T~

Notre Dame has played a tougher schedule than Georgia or Alabama and it’s not very close, which will skew those defense rankings.

Bill Connelly writes some interesting stat based stuff for SB Nation and he’s got performance vs. SOS rankings and has it as Bama, ND, Georgia.

 

[SABRWinners]

There was something very shady about the Va Tech/Miami game last week. Regardless Miami was the better team that week and likely wins regardless. But the media coverage was very one sided. Gameday was in town and during the game they decided and announced they would stay in Miami for the NDame matchup which I found very odd and distrespectful to Va tech. It seemed like they had been waiting to announce that all game and the announcers were aware of it. Combine this with the coverage they gave which was totally lopsided in favor of miami...it was like Va Tech didn't exist even though they had an impressive season to that point. Not just that but there were a couple flags for PI on Va Tech that were absolutely mind blowing. Like I said Miami probably wins anyway but it seemed to me everybody from the conference to ESPN was rooting for and setting up for this matchup this weeek. Its like it had already been pre planned that it would happen and they needed to hype it and in order to do that Miami needed to win. Something I found that was troubling and am noticing more and more with ESPN and big conferences. They like to have their primetime matchups so they can hype it for ratings and the conferences play along. It just shows how TV ratings and media markets have a dominating influence on the sport now. Kind of felt bad for Va Tech who seemed like the red headed step child even though they have had a good season. Just my two cents

I like Notre Dame this week. They are so impressive at the line of scrimmage. I don't see how Miami will be able to stop their running game and conversely I can see Notre Dame containing Miami's running game with an impressive front line that did a solid job vs Georgia's fantastic running game. The only reason i like this play and not love it is because I have been very impressed with the Miami QB despite throwing a few picks last week. He plays much smarter than a freshman and has a very good feel for the game. He could give Miami a chance but my money will be on Notre Dame.

College Gameday was in Stillwater last week.

 

[gamerecognizegame]

That's right. Although, Herbstreit and Fowler called the game in Miami and the game was ESPN's primetime game. FOX carried Bedlam. During the game Fowler and Herb announced gameday would be in Miami so they would just stay there all week.

 

[gamerecognizegame]

VT was never a good match up vs Miami this year, VT has 2 flaws Miami was able to take advantage of just like Clemson. On defense the Mike backer tends to get lost and run to the wrong gaps.. He gets caught up in the wash, he runs to the wrong gap and misses tackles when he gets there. He's not a bad athlete but he's short, stocky and prone to leaving his feet resulting in missing tackles. Clemson's Bryant had a field day in Blacksburg and so did Rosier last week. Against teams with lessor talent at OL, QB, and RB his flaws are less pronounced other defenders can keep him from being exposed in space at critical times.

The second flaw is VT is playing with a safety at boundary corner. He's a very good athlete a big kid who will take your head off given the opportunity. His issue is playing man coverage vs burners he tends to get friendly with his hands and can't play proper technique when he's chasing a 4.4 guy in space.(fails to locate the ball) He is prone to flags and giving up big plays.

A third issue for VT's defense is for some reason Bud Foster is not getting pressure like he used to. He has a experienced defense with a good DL which usually means serious pressure and a lot of sacks and QB hurries. I think Fuente is dialing Foster back a bit I get the feeling he does not want to take the kinds of risks Foster likes to take.

On Offense VT was not a good match up either. Fuente has only one returning WR Philips. Savoy has come on but he a little guy with speed not your typical 6"4 WR Fuente likes. Fuente wants 7 WR's in his system like he had in Memphis. He's been playing with 2-3 the last 2 years. Jackson the QB is a freshman he has played well and played well at Miami. He had a lot of drops but the ball was on target all night. The OC called a good game as usual but could not execute as needed because of the flaws in the OL. Beamers last 2-3 years were ugly on the recruiting trail. Never known for robust offense it was pretty depleted by the time he left. Fuente came on board and inherited a poor OL situation. To his credit and the OL coach Vince Vice they got pretty good production out of what they had. Vice was a part of the Memphis staff Fuente insisted on bringing to Blacksburg. Like the WR situation give Fuente 2-3 years and VT will be stocked at RB, OL, WR and QB.

Vt's OL was going to get dominated by Miami and they were. Miami locked down Cam Philips, pressured Jackson it was that easy. The OL limits VT's running game Miami had no trouble with that either. Miami's defense is not as good as Clemson's but its not far behind.

Just as Miami was a bad match for VT, ND is a bad match for Miami. ND's OL is real and will manhandle Miami in the trenches. ND's QB is smart and can run They have a RB that can force Miami into making bad choices in space. ND has 7 WR's that can run and catch. Miami's defense will be under pressure because ND's OL can dictate their will. Miami will line up in a 5-2 with the corners playing man and a safety in the middle of the field. That's who Miami is and has been for 30 years. Miami expects to have better talent on defense and they did in the 80's not so much since then. They are good today but far from the days of Ray Lewis and Ed Read.

Of course the all mighty turnover chain can rear its ugly head and force ND into 5 turnovers and this game is close. Short of the magical chain ND can dictate it's will on Miami's defense in this game. That usually results in a WIN. Knowing how despite ND is to regain it's luster I'll bet some Priest performs an Excorsism that chain's voodoo. w-thumbs!^

Very good analysis. I definitely noticed the linebacker missing gaps and missing tackles all game. It was shocking to see from a Bud Foster defense. The read option was giving them all sorts of problems for whatever reason. Miami is probably one of the most athletic teams they have played all season. Coming off wins at home vs Duke and UNC they looked like they were maybe caught off guard. Foster must be livid this week with the performance of the defense. I wonder if they will bounce back vs a solid Ga Tech team.

How do you think they will fare vs a GTech team that runs the ball 50+ times a game with all sorts of options and triple options mixed in? Bud Foster has seen this team several times by now but can they stop it? I would think yes but after what I saw vs Miami with all the big gaps and missed tackles in the running game, who knows?

I am impressed with Fuente's coaching and do believe he will get the offense corrected. Although I am not all that impressed with their QB. If GT can get some pressure I see him as turnover prone.

 

[tmader7]

Notre Dame is the only team who even had a chance to beat Georgia this year, and have rolled over everyone else they’ve played. Miami struggled against FSU and UNC. Disclaimer, I thought VaTech would do better for sure but Brian Kelly might actually be getting it finally and has stopped fooling around so much with throwing the ball. They are 3rd in the country in rushing yards, and Miami can’t stop the run. As CB pointed out, that OL is going to be the difference and while it might be close to start, though I doubt it, it won’t be close at the end. The only thing that scares me a bit, and I just threw him some shine, is the fact that Brian Kelly has shown an uncanny ability to be an idiot. His teams have lost to Navy twice, and won on the final drive in two other games. (Speaking of that, I won’t bet against Navy, but when that line comes out it won’t be high enough).

325/game, a buck forty-five of those before the rusher is even touched. I smell a long day for the U D.

~T~

 

[Fearloathing02]

The U is 67th in the nation against the rush going against Josh Adams and co...good luck with Miami.

 

[tmader7]

The U is 67th in the nation against the rush going against Josh Adams and co...good luck with Miami.

Won't be any Miami here, I'm a card carrying Catholic......well, shit, that's not a good reason, LOL. As my good friend Coldweather likes to say, "caz they be gooder." LOL

~T~

 

[bones1980]

Miami will slow that rushing attack down! Miami will score atleast 27 on that d

 

[croaker]

Won't be any Miami here, I'm a card carrying Catholic......well, shit, that's not a good reason, LOL. As my good friend Coldweather likes to say, "caz they be gooder." LOL

~T~

ND much "gooder".

All the Miami hype should provide value for the ND line.

Miami more athletic and have homefield. ND look very good against strong opposition, Kelly will have his team ready as per the USC game.

Have we ever seen a heavily hyped game turn into a blowout?

 

[AlistairCookie]

Have we ever seen a heavily hyped game turn into a blowout?

ya, OU-OSU this year. Happens a lot

 

[Rich3227]

Tmader will have the winner for everyone

Lmao