Boxslayer32 said:Winning Streak said:Are you okay? They take action and that's it bottomline...they are human like we are they don't know anything different from the next person calling in a bet..I work in Las Vegas for 6 years in the Off Shore Sports betting Account Department..They are in it for the Juice not gambling so think what you want to think I know I have been around it and learnt a ton about what Vegas is doing. If they were in it to just gamble they would be broke. Why don't you think they make the rules up in every game or sports bet?[/quote]
90% of the time, yeah they want equal action.
10 games out of 100 at least, are set up to get extra money on one side. And all they need to do is hit 51% and they are making extra money. They dont know anything more than the next person? My ass. I'm sure they have every significant trend in the book, and every significant system in the world to make a line. I'm sure they hire the sharpest, the best of the best - not Joe Blow get us even betting action. And when that system or trend pops out something extraordinary and it goes against public favorites and public perception, their eyes get green. They'll stick with that trend and fix the line up a bit to make sure they get extra action from the public. I dont care where you worked. Let me know when you are the guy(s) setting lines, otherwise, I'm not interested in your expert opinion from your days of mopping floors in Vegas.
Boxslayer, you are very right. Very. But, you fail to understand, that they are still human. And NO human in this world, unless I'm prooven wrong I will stick to this, can predict the future. No trend, inside info, or ANY information, will give ANYONE, a precise predictiction of the future.
Unless they are involving themselves in collusion with the players themselves, lol, the books have NO more of an ability to predict a game, than a bettor does. Only difference, is that the books have an edge, where in they can set the "lines" a certain way, based on trends, and past information, inside information. To make "conditions" which may loose. In other words, take an nba game..... If you, and the books, and EVERYONE in the world, knows for sure, miami will be at detroit, then, shit, the line is going to be something totally against the bettor. A "condition" that may or may not come into reality. Say the final score is miami 121 detroit 119...
Everyone who bet miami -6 lost. And, the people who bet detroit +6 won. Now, books know MOST bettors will play the "conditions". The lines. -6/+6. Yeah, you'll get a few that play miami to win straight up, but, they're making dirt from that.
Do you see what I mean? They can predict the outcome no more than you can. They just use math, and trends, to set "conditions" you HAVE to play, if you want to be on a side, that pays ATLEAST -110.
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cashman said:Boxslayer32 said:Boxslayer, you are very right. Very. But, you fail to understand, that they are still human. And NO human in this world, unless I'm prooven wrong I will stick to this, can predict the future. No trend, inside info, or ANY information, will give ANYONE, a precise predictiction of the future.
Unless they are involving themselves in collusion with the players themselves, lol, the books have NO more of an ability to predict a game, than a bettor does. Only difference, is that the books have an edge, where in they can set the "lines" a certain way, based on trends, and past information, inside information. To make "conditions" which may loose. In other words, take an nba game..... If you, and the books, and EVERYONE in the world, knows for sure, miami will be at detroit, then, shit, the line is going to be something totally against the bettor. A "condition" that may or may not come into reality. Say the final score is miami 121 detroit 119...
Everyone who bet miami -6 lost. And, the people who bet detroit +6 won. Now, books know MOST bettors will play the "conditions". The lines. -6/+6. Yeah, you'll get a few that play miami to win straight up, but, they're making dirt from that.
Do you see what I mean? They can predict the outcome no more than you can. They just use math, and trends, to set "conditions" you HAVE to play, if you want to be on a side, that pays ATLEAST -110.
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I know what you're saying, you could of saved yourself all that typing if you saw the part in my post that said all they have to do is hit 51%. Vegas or a book takes a stand on average of about 1 play perday, in any given sport. I promise they study trends and numbers and systems greater than any person on this planet. They arent in this to lose money. Yes, they are human. But my point is, they do take stands and they dont have to hit every single time. They just need to hit more than they lose. And as long as the trends and systems and stats or whatever are on their side, they do just that. And eveyr now and then you have to take a look at a line like this Mets line tonight and just scratch your head. I've learned not to fade the Mets and take the other side just because I think it is a "trap", but just to stay away from the game entirely. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. So I just stay away from the game altogether. Why? Because I feel like Im being set up for something every now and then, and they dont always win. Its not a lock that the books will win when they set a trap line, but their "trap" lines win more for them than they lose, and thats all they want.
Dr.Pepper said:For those who don't watch the national league west, the Giants Cain is a young stud. Started out horrible this year but has probably turned the corner. I'm expecting big things.
Tough loss Gyno, good luck next time.
cosmokram3r said:Maybe you should get your plays, and go for the opposite team... i always think about doing that when im on a terrible run but dont have the guts try it out on paper.