Melania Trump's speech plagiarizes parts of Michelle Obama's 2008 speech

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I didn't watch a second of it. I saw the side by side comparison of the two speeches....clear plagerizing. But repubs like Willie only care if it's dems doing it.

classic trump campaign ....now blaming Hillary for it. Too funny.....do repubs ever own any of their bullshit?

It's hilarious, isn't it? And, of all people to steal from! Hey, she probably said, she graduated from two Ivy League schools, I'm a mail order bride Yugoslavia, excuse me, Slovenia, help a sistah out, lol...
 

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Let's focus on the serious issues here. Is the RickRoll legit? I wanna believe it was but that would be pretty messed up.

It probably isn't but who the F knows.

(If you don't know what I am talking about see post #26 in this thread)

IDK, if so, the hit is out

could be from "make you feel my love" or how about "I'll stand by you"?
 

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Somehow you guys always find a way to protect those you support.

Obviously plagerizing......if they just admit it and throw some speech writer under the bus it would be over.....instead they deny.

Obama plagiarized Bush, word for word, and Hitlery's book Hard Choices is chock full of plagiary. There is no denying that, except from brain dead libtards such as yourself.
 

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liberals have their talking points now, because heaven knows they don't want to talk about real "shit storms"

they can't possibly talk about the economy, racism, national security, terrorism, jobs, the deficit, violence and healthcare

they prefer to discuss a speech given by an immigrant wife of the nominee and allowing transgenders into girls' restrooms


rock on democrats, be proud baby





PS Melania is out of your league,


This is why I think Intentional Sabotage by someone doing Double-Agent Duty within the RNC is possible here, on this Melania Speech Debacle.

RNC exercised Oversight on The Speech, "Final Draft Approval/Right to Revise" call it what you will

What I am calling it is possible


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Obama plagiarized Bush, word for word, and Hitlery's book Hard Choices is chock full of plagiary. There is no denying that, except from brain dead libtards such as yourself.

First you make the stupid fucking statement about Michelle plagiarizing people who didn't WRITE anything, and now THIS shit: you're a fucking liar, SHOW us where Obama plagiarized that idiot "word for word,' or STFU.
 

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First you make the stupid fucking statement about Michelle plagiarizing people who didn't WRITE anything, and now THIS shit: you're a fucking liar, SHOW us where Obama plagiarized that idiot "word for word,' or STFU.

another brain dead liberal who needs others to do their homework for them. Are you familiar with Google, asswipe? Go find it yourself, douchebag. oh wait, you'll "do a vtard" and say if you can't post it, it didn't happen, right? like I give a fucking shit.
 

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Vit... you and the media have ZEROOOO to say negative about yesterdays convention, lol as nothing bad happend..

I know you were begging for an open carry to shoot someone.. lol that didnt happen..

Melania had a 1000 word speach and REPEATED on 2 seporate occasions 10 word PHRASES...
Lol... not plageurism..

Do you write much?

Clearly plagiarism without a doubt. Not in dispute. Someone should be fired.
 

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I didn't watch a second of it. I saw the side by side comparison of the two speeches....clear plagerizing. But repubs like Willie only care if it's dems doing it.

classic trump campaign ....now blaming Hillary for it. Too funny.....do repubs ever own any of their bullshit?

You cant plagiarize a COMMON PHRASE,, OR PLATITUDE for gods sakes,, lol,, and all of the media outlets Headlines, are saying, Melania plagiarizes her speach,,

very misleading, and a lie,,
 

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You cant plagiarize a COMMON PHRASE,, OR PLATITUDE for gods sakes,, lol,, and all of the media outlets Headlines, are saying, Melania plagiarizes her speach,,

very misleading, and a lie,,

Dude, she copied sentences that are almost identical. Did you read them?
 

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one sentence is in play, but the idiots are trying to drag commonly used expressions into the mix

that's piling on
 

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another brain dead liberal who needs others to do their homework for them. Are you familiar with Google, asswipe? Go find it yourself, douchebag. oh wait, you'll "do a vtard" and say if you can't post it, it didn't happen, right? like I give a fucking shit.

I'm not looking up SHIT, because it doesn't exist. YOU made the statement, so proof up, or shut up, lying right wing cocksucker.Loser!@#0Slapping-silly90)):fckmad:kth)(&^^^:):carto1710:kissingbb:Countdownazzkick(&^:bigfinger
 

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one sentence is in play, but the idiots are trying to drag commonly used expressions into the mix

that's piling on

"One sentence????" You don't even need to take your shoes off to count that "high," Witless Willie, but apparently the math is too much for you, lol...
 

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I'm not looking up SHIT, because it doesn't exist. YOU made the statement, so proof up, or shut up, lying right wing cocksucker.Loser!@#0Slapping-silly90)):fckmad:kth)(&^^^:):carto1710:kissingbb:Countdownazzkick(&^:bigfinger


Looks like the the meds are wearing off again .
Aint that so Raiderhater ?
 

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I'm not looking up SHIT, because it doesn't exist. YOU made the statement, so proof up, or shut up, lying right wing cocksucker.Loser!@#0Slapping-silly90)):fckmad:kth)(&^^^:):carto1710:kissingbb:Countdownazzkick(&^:bigfinger

Suit yourself. I knew a pussy like you would take the same route the other pussy takes, so you two can continue to wallow in your own cluelessness with the other dumb as fuck liberals. It matters not to me!
 

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I can't believe people are making a big deal about this.
Im certainly no trump supporter but saying what she said is plagerism would be the equivalent of the first country music singer who sang a song with the word beer or drunk sueing everyone after who uses the same word .
 

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You cant plagiarize a COMMON PHRASE,, OR PLATITUDE for gods sakes,, lol,, and all of the media outlets Headlines, are saying, Melania plagiarizes her speach,,

very misleading, and a lie,,

As others have pointed out, you obviously don't write much, you don't know what plagiarizing is, you haven't "mastered" where apostrophes go, and you put two commons everywhere for no particular reason, lol...

Btw, it's worse than has been reported, the NY Times side by side, written and visually, is very striking...


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/melania-trump-speech.html<article id="story" class="story theme-main"> <header id="story-header" class="story-header">


Melania Trump’s Speech Bears Striking Similarities to Michelle Obama’s in 2008

By MAGGIE HABERMAN, ALAN RAPPEPORT, PATRICK HEALY and JONATHAN MARTIN<time class="dateline" datetime="2016-07-19T12:54:03-04:00" itemprop="dateModified" content="2016-07-19T12:54:03-04:00">JULY 19, 2016</time>
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Video Comparing Melania Trump’s Speech With Michelle Obama’sParts of Melania Trump’s speech on Monday night during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland were strikingly similar to Michelle Obama’s speech during the Democratic National Convention in 2008.
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</figcaption> </figure> CLEVELAND — Melania Trump earned praise for her speech on Monday at the opening night of the Republican National Convention, but her remarks almost immediately came under scrutiny when striking similarities were discovered between her speech and one delivered by Michelle Obama at the Democratic convention in 2008.
The phrases in question came when Ms. Trump — who told NBC News earlier on Monday that she had written her speech herself — was discussing her upbringing in Slovenia and her parents.
Here are the relevant passages.
Ms. Trump, Monday night:
“From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily lives. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son. And we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow. Because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.
Mrs. Obama, in her 2008 speech:
“Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them. And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.
Ms. Trump:
“I was born in Slovenia, a small, beautiful and then-Communist country in Central Europe. My sister, Ines, who is an incredible woman and a friend, and I were raised by my wonderful parents. My elegant and hard-working mother, Amalija, introduced me to fashion and beauty. My father, Viktor, instilled in me a passion for business and travel. Their integrity, compassion and intelligence reflects to this day on me and for my love of family and America.
Mrs. Obama, in 2008:
“And I come here as a daughter — raised on the South Side of Chicago by a father who was a blue-collar city worker and a mother who stayed at home with my brother and me. My mother’s love has always been a sustaining force for our family, and one of my greatest joys is seeing her integrity, her compassion and her intelligence reflected in my own daughters.
Jarrett Hill, a Twitter user whose biography describes him as an interior designer and journalist, apparently first noticed the resemblance between Ms. Trump’s speech and Mrs. Obama’s in 2008.


But Ms. Trump said in an interview taped with Matt Lauer of NBC before her speech that she went over it just once in advance. “I wrote it with as little help as possible,” she said.
Mr. Trump’s aides declined to identify who, if anyone, on the campaign helped in writing the speech. Mr. Trump’s main speechwriter is Stephen Miller, and the convention program and speakers have been managed by the campaign’s chief strategist, Paul Manafort.
In a statement released just before 2 a.m., a campaign spokesman, Jason Miller, praised Ms. Trump’s speech, which he suggested was written by other people whom he did not identify.
He did not directly address the similarities to Mrs. Obama’s speech, but he indicated that Ms. Trump had “included fragments” from other people.
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<figcaption class="caption" itemprop="caption description"> Donald J. Trump leaving the stage with Ms. Trump after her speech. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times </figcaption> </figure> “In writing her beautiful speech, Melania’s team of writers took notes on her life’s inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking,” Mr. Miller said. “Melania’s immigrant experience and love for America shone through in her speech, which made it a success.”
As the controversy broke out, Mr. Trump posted on Twitter: “It was truly an honor to introduce my wife, Melania. Her speech and demeanor were absolutely incredible. Very proud!”
Some of Mr. Trump’s staunchest defenders had trouble explaining the overlapping language. On CNN, Jeffrey Lord, a commentator and Trump supporter, called it “a serious thing” and recalled the plagiarism scandal that helped sink Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s 1988 presidential bid. Mr. Lord speculated that a staff member on Mr. Trump’s campaign was responsible and added that whoever it was should be let go.
Mr. Trump’s campaign and senior Republicans did not offer a coherent explanation Tuesday for the similarities in the speech, though some officials conceded that the passages were lifted and others tried to avoid responsibility.
Reince Priebus, the head of the Republican National Committee, said he would “probably” fire whoever was responsible.
“I don’t blame her,” he told a Bloomberg Politics breakfast Tuesday. “Some of these things are pretty common types of themes.”
Mr. Manafort, the Trump strategist, called it “a great speech.”
“Obviously Michelle Obama feels very similar sentiments toward her family,” Mr. Manafort said at a Tuesday morning convention briefing, calling criticism “totally ignoring the facts of the speech itself.”
“We’re comfortable that the words that she used are personal to her,” he said.
“I would note that she did note that she was speaking before 40 million people yesterday,” he said, adding it was “absurd” to think people wouldn’t notice” if she had plagiarized.
Mr. Manafort went on to deflect questions about the passages themselves and instead attacked the presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign for what he said was their effort to draw attention to the matter.
“When Hillary Clinton is threatened by a female the first thing she does is to try to destroy the person,” Mr. Manafort said.
Yet another adviser to Mr. Trump, who has assisted in the drafting of some of his speeches, used a television interview to acknowledge that Mrs. Trump used words that were not her own.
“I’m sure what happened is the person who was helping write this plucked something in there and unfortunate oversight and certainly Melania didn’t have anything to do with it,” said Sam Clovis, a Trump campaign co-chairman, in an interview on MSNBC.

Sarah Hurwitz, a White House speechwriter who composed Mrs. Obama’s 2008 address, did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment.
Speeches by political spouses tend to be deeply personal and even idiosyncratic, because they often describe specific qualities and anecdotes that only a husband or wife would know. Ann Romney delivered a detailed testimonial about Mitt Romney’s private side at the Republican convention in 2012, the sort of highly tailored speech that spouses have delivered for decades about presidential nominees.
Ms. Trump’s speech was praised by Republicans as one of the evening’s high points. It was one of the first such public forays by a woman who is deeply private.
As it happened, the thrust of Monday night’s speaker lineup was what Republicans called the inauthenticity and incompetence of Mrs. Clinton.
Mr. Hill, a television journalist who was recently laid off, said in an interview that one of Ms. Trump’s lines — the words “strength of your dreams” — caught his attention as he was watching on his computer from a Starbucks in Los Angeles, juggling Facebook chats and browsing Twitter.
“It kind of made me pause for a minute,” Mr. Hill said. “I remembered that line from Michelle Obama’s speech.”
Mr. Hill, 31, found the clip of Mrs. Obama’s speech online and noticed that parts of the two speeches sounded the same. He then realized that a larger portion appeared to have been borrowed as he continued to examine both.
“I thought, ‘That’s legit plagiarism,’ ” said Mr. Hill, who described himself as a supporter of President Obama. “ ‘Someone took this piece and plugged in their own information.’ ”
Accusations of plagiarism are not unheard-of in political speeches, although the consequences have varied.
In 2008, Mrs. Clinton criticized Mr. Obama for appearing to lift a passage from Deval Patrick, then the governor of Massachusetts, in a speech about how words matter. Mr. Obama, then a senator, said that he could have credited Mr. Patrick but that he did not consider it a case of plagiarism.


When Mr. Biden was running for president in the 1980s, he faced questions about plagiarizing speeches from Robert F. Kennedy, Hubert H. Humphrey and Neil Kinnock, a British Labour Party leader. Mr. Biden said at the time that it was “ludicrous” to expect a politician to attribute everything he said.
Mr. Trump’s reed-thin campaign staff, which served him well in the Republican primary contests, has started to grow in recent weeks. But he has struggled to professionalize his operation to adapt to a general election.
 

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